colin23 Posted April 26, 2010 Share Posted April 26, 2010 This probably gets asked all the time, but I was just looking on E-bay and there a Perless Casino for sale, also I ve seen matsumoto (I think thats how its spelt?). I know the old vintage ones where made in kalamazoo and new ones in korea but what about all the others? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sjtalon Posted April 30, 2010 Share Posted April 30, 2010 Peerless is Korea. I have one from Saein, VERY NICE ! There are some that come form China (Qingdao) mfc. too. Some believe Casino's and LP's from Korea are the best build wise ( vs. China) but that could be subjective. Tak Matsumoto I believe is from Japan ( well he is for sure) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonnyg Posted April 30, 2010 Share Posted April 30, 2010 I think you mean Matsumoku, they made Epiphones before the Chinese or Koreans. Some say the '81-'85 (ish) semis are almost as good as the Gibson made models. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brianh Posted April 30, 2010 Share Posted April 30, 2010 It's confusing, but Tak Matsumoto is a Gibson/Epiphone endorser, who had a Gibby LP, Epi LP Elitist and now a Japanese market (only) Doublecut with his name on it: http://www.epiphone.com/news.asp?NewsID=1731 Matsumoku is the name of a now-defunct guitar manufacturing company (owned by Singer) that used to make Aria and Epiphone guitars in Nagoya Japan: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Matsumoku It's further complicated by Matsumoto, a town in Japan's Nagano Prefecture where FujiGen Gakki, Gotoh, and other musical instrument companies have manufacturing plants. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frenchie1281734003 Posted April 30, 2010 Share Posted April 30, 2010 I think you mean Matsumoku' date=' they made Epiphones before the Chinese or Koreans. Some say the '81-'85 (ish) semis are almost as good as the Gibson made models.[/quote'] I`d go along with that, I`ve owned three Matsumoku Casino`s as well as a 1984 Blonde Sheraton (That looked beautiful). Playing wise I found them to be better than the originals. Tonewise not quite as deep & complex, but good enough, plus in my experience the Matsumoku Casino`s don`t feedback as easily as the originals or Lennon reissues. Lennon Reissue (Centre) flanked by two Matsumoku`s. Steve. P.S. here`s a thread about comparing the Lennon 65 reissue to an 83 Matsumoku. http://forums.epiphone.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=5736 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AS90 Posted April 30, 2010 Share Posted April 30, 2010 Still love the natural one! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brianh Posted April 30, 2010 Share Posted April 30, 2010 It looks like the Lennon RI neck meets the body at the 16th fret and the other two meet at the 17th fret. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frenchie1281734003 Posted April 30, 2010 Share Posted April 30, 2010 It looks like the Lennon RI neck meets the body at the 16th fret and the other two meet at the 17th fret. No' date=' the Matsumoku`s join at the 16th fret too! [img']http://i233.photobucket.com/albums/ee74/frenchie_044/casinosOctober08017.jpg[/img] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frenchie1281734003 Posted May 1, 2010 Share Posted May 1, 2010 Still love the natural one! I really miss that one! I was completely mad to get rid of it, although getting the red one back, has softened the blow a little. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
modfather Posted May 1, 2010 Share Posted May 1, 2010 Frenchie Lovely guitars Must have missed you getting rid of the natural one ???? Why Any pics of the red one I after a red one sometime in the future prob after the IB 64 Texan Cheers Mark Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
colin23 Posted May 2, 2010 Author Share Posted May 2, 2010 So basically thers not much differance in the newer casino's people selling them are just trying to get a bit more buy saying a peerless casino is better than others? I know you all like pic's so here's my casino (without strings). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
modfather Posted May 2, 2010 Share Posted May 2, 2010 Very nice Colin, Is that a Sg Special? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
colin23 Posted May 2, 2010 Author Share Posted May 2, 2010 Ya, it's an '05 I love it, I changed the machine heads due to a slight accident when I first got it, and the truss cover, but other than that it's stock. I think people give them to much stick for being inferior to the the standard but it kicks ***, I did have a seymour duncan APH2 in the bridge but I took it out cause I thought the stock pup sounded better! I got the SG and the Casino cause I'm a bit of a Weller fan! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
modfather Posted May 2, 2010 Share Posted May 2, 2010 Like your style Colin I have a 06 Special had the viola tailpiece fitted , It'sa great guitar thinking of getting some Burstbuckers fitted but in no rush for that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
colin23 Posted May 2, 2010 Author Share Posted May 2, 2010 that SG looks great, I looked everywere for a vibrato like that where did you get it? do you have any tuning problems with it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
modfather Posted May 2, 2010 Share Posted May 2, 2010 Colin If I remember it came from All parts was a few years ago now back in 07 I originally fitted it my self which was a bad move I have just recently paid a Luthier to fix it properly. No great tunin problems played it for the the full 2nd half of a gig last Fri only had to tweek it once. That my old Korean Casino btw this is my cureent Japanese 1991 job Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frenchie1281734003 Posted May 3, 2010 Share Posted May 3, 2010 FrenchieLovely guitars Must have missed you getting rid of the natural one ???? Why Any pics of the red one I after a red one sometime in the future prob after the IB 64 Texan Cheers Mark Hi Mark. At the time I had two Matsumoku`s and the Lennon' date=' and truth be told the Lennon wasn`t getting played enough, so it was a case of sell the Lennon, or sell the others. The Lennon does sound better, but the Matsumoku`s have such player friendly necks, anyway the Red ones back now, so I`ve got the best of both worlds again! Wine Red 1983 Matsumoku Casino. [img']http://i233.photobucket.com/albums/ee74/frenchie_044/guitars/P1010139.jpg[/img] This shot shows the Red better. Oh and here`s both Casino`s with my rather nice IB64 Texan. Incidently, if you are after the IB Texan, they are all pretty good, but some are definitely better than others, so try a few. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
modfather Posted May 3, 2010 Share Posted May 3, 2010 Very nice Steve Lovely colour, Will take your advice in the IB64 definatley be getting one in the near future . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nazereen Posted May 3, 2010 Share Posted May 3, 2010 i bought casino from unsung,so i want to know the weakness from unsung..tq Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
colin23 Posted May 3, 2010 Author Share Posted May 3, 2010 Hi Frenchie, do both your casino's have nylon saddles? how much dose that effect the tone? I've seen a few for sale on e-bay but was wondering if it's a worth while upgrade? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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