Bunky Posted February 24, 2011 Share Posted February 24, 2011 Is there a significant difference between the regular casino and elitist casino? How would the Sheraton (korean era) compare? and... If i already have a Byrdland ELtist is there much drastic difference in dynamics compared to these previously mentioned models if i'm looking for variety in my collection? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tweed2 Posted February 24, 2011 Share Posted February 24, 2011 I can't speak for the difference between the regular and Elitist Casinos since I've never played an Elitist before. The obvious differences between the Casino and the Sheraton (and the Byrdland) are the Casino is a "hollow body" * guitar with P90 pickups where the Sheri is a semi-hollow with humbuckers and the Byrdland is a deep hollowbody with humbuckers. All three are going to give you a different sound. My guess (and that's what it would be since I've never played a Byrdland either) would be that the Casino would be less similar (or more different) from the Byrdland than the Sheri due to the pickups, if nothing else. Might consider a Riviera P93 if you're trying to get more variation from the Byrdland, too. * there has been some "lightweight" debates on whether a Casino is really a true hollowbody. Search back a little bit. My opinion is, it is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StewartB Posted February 24, 2011 Share Posted February 24, 2011 Is there a significant difference between the regular casino and elitist casino? How would the Sheraton (korean era) compare? and... If i already have a Byrdland ELtist is there much drastic difference in dynamics compared to these previously mentioned models if i'm looking for variety in my collection? Bunky I have a "regular" Epi Dot and an Elitist Epi Dot. They are both good guitars but the Elitist is quite a bit better in terms of construction, quality, finish, and playability. I imagine the same would apply when comparing regular Epi Casino with an Elitist Casino. The Elitists cost maybe two to three times the regular Epi model so perhaps your answer lies there? Having said that, my regular Epi Dot is still a good guitar that plays well and stays in tune. Got no experience of the Byrdland, sorry. Good luck. StewartB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Bunky Posted February 24, 2011 Author Share Posted February 24, 2011 Thanks. I'm mostly debating now between a rick 620, and an elitist casino. oy vey No chance to play the elitist. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bunky Posted February 24, 2011 Author Share Posted February 24, 2011 Are there many fake elitist on ebay? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BurstOrBust Posted March 10, 2011 Share Posted March 10, 2011 Sorry to hijack the thread, but can anyone confirm the fretboard radius of the Elitist Casinos? Oddly, they weren't specified on the chart(s) above. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
charlie brown Posted March 10, 2011 Share Posted March 10, 2011 Also, Elitist Casino's are to "Kalamazoo" USA specs, except for the Poly finish. IBJL, are also to Kalamazoo USA specs. Meaning, correct neck joint location, at the 16th fret, instead of at the 17th fret, as is normal with the Korean versions. Elitist and IBJL have USA electronics, and metal parts. The MOST accurate, to the original pre-1970 Casino, is the actual John Lennon versions...complete with Nitro finishes. But, they have the price tag, to go with it, too. ;>b "Elitist" would be "my" choice, after the "Lennon" ones...IF I could afford that. All "Elitist" models, are Amazing guitars! I believe the Elitist Byrdland, has a "short scale," like the original Gibson version, right? That would be a bit different. The Byrdland is thinner, too, than a traditional "Jazz Box," such as an L-5 or Elitist "Broadway." So, other than upper fret access, it won't be terribly different, to the Sheraton. But, a bit mellower, due to it being just a bit deeper bodied. The Casino, with it's P-90's has a very distinctive "growl," to it, even clean, with the controls wide open. But, it mellows out, delightfully, when volume and/or tone controls are backed off. It really is, an outstanding guitar. ;>) CB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dennis G Posted March 11, 2011 Share Posted March 11, 2011 I'm mostly debating now between a rick 620, and an elitist casino. oy vey No chance to play the elitist. Well, I've never played the rick (although a 360/12 is definitely on the "someday" GAS list) but I've had an Elitist Casino for almost six months, and like CB said, it really is an outstanding guitar. It's rapidly becoming my "go to". It's just got a great feel and sound and plays like a dream. The fit, finish, quality, etc. is on a par with my Gibby's. I can now understand why it's Macca's "if I could only have one guitar" choice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobouz Posted March 11, 2011 Share Posted March 11, 2011 I have a Korean Peerless '04 Casino, and a '09 Elitist Casino. The Peerless is a very good guitar for the money. The Elitist is an even better guitar, with a price tag to match. If you can only buy one, spend the extra dollars and get the Elitist Casino for the higher build quality & Gibson made P90s. Btw, the Elitist Casino is a true hollowbody. The Peerless has a soundpost under the bridge, but is also a true hollowbody. One more comment about the Elitist Casino: the neck is definitely on the skinny side. As for the semi-hollow Sheraton, it is a completely different animal. If you want to get into semi-hollows, one of the best buys on the market right now, imho, is the Gibson 339. I have three Gibson semi-hollows (335,339,Tennessean) as well as a Valensi Riviera I just picked up (also a good buy w/P94s). Although I enjoy them all, on a pure value scale, the 339 is very hard to beat for a high quality semi-hollowbody guitar. If you bought one & then decided you'd really like to experiment with the P90 sound, you could always drop in one or two P94s at a later date. One other comment on the 339: the 30/60 neck seems to be preferred by most folks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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