Irish Brian in Sweden Posted October 26, 2012 Share Posted October 26, 2012 So I live in Sweden and watch out for any interesting guitars on our eBay called Blocket.se So up pops a 1964 Cherry 335 with a Bigsby....... no price given..... Blocket Guitar And so I do a search to see how much these might fetch and find this guitar on Gbase for 13,500 USD Gbase Guitar Is this not the same guitar? The picture of the full guitar face up in the case is the same no? But the one on Blocket.se has strangely erased the leads that are on the floor, if you look closely you can see that someone did a photoshop to remove them?? Why... I have no idea... The other 2 blocket photos are not the same as the Gbase guitar? And have a different serial number.... I've attached the Blocket.se picture that's a copy of the Gbase one..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Irish Brian in Sweden Posted October 26, 2012 Author Share Posted October 26, 2012 So I message him: >> What sort of price are you looking for? If that's all original then >> that would fetch over 10K US dollars in the states.... He answers: > Hi! > Thank you for supporting me with the price setting of this fantastic > guitar. > Yes, my price is low about 10.000$ because of the issue of the > headstock with a very thin and short crack Which is professionally > repaired . Otherwise it all original, no modification or changing or > other repairs. > Regards, Lajos I answer: > Oh any headstock issue can drop the price by up to 50% especially in > the US. > Here in Sweden people don't seem to mind as much for some reason.... > > By the way, your guitar's pics look a lot like this guitar.... > > http://www.gbase.com/gear/gibson-es-335-1964-cherry-4 > > Can you explain? > > Brian To which he says.... Yeah. Sure that's why my price is low. The pics very similar indeed, bit this is not the same guitar! Lajos --- What do you all think? It's certainly the same guitar.... What's his game? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JimR56 Posted October 26, 2012 Share Posted October 26, 2012 Anybody can get (steal) photos from online sources and create their own phony listing for an item that they do not actually own. It happens frequently on ebay, craigslist, blocket... everywhere. Identical photos (and mis-matched photos, incomplete views of all parts of an instrument) are usually the dead giveaway that you're dealing with fraud. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
j45nick Posted October 26, 2012 Share Posted October 26, 2012 Anybody can get (steal) photos from online sources and create their own phony listing for an item that they do not actually own. It happens frequently on ebay, craigslist, blocket... everywhere. Identical photos (and mis-matched photos, incomplete views of all parts of an instrument) are usually the dead giveaway that you're dealing with fraud. Exactly! This is almost certainly a scam. The only way to confirm otherwise is to look at the guitar in person, to see that the seller actually has possession. For starters, ask the seller to take a picture of him holding both the guitar and today's newspaper, the equivalent of a "proof of life" photo in a kidnapping case. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobouz Posted October 27, 2012 Share Posted October 27, 2012 Stay away - it's a scam for sure. I've seen this kind of thing first hand with a '53 Tele purchased by a friend of mine. A week after the purchase, the guitar shows up in a phony Craigslist ad, which can't possibly be legitimate because my friend has the Tele in his possession! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdgm Posted November 1, 2012 Share Posted November 1, 2012 But look at the Bigsby tailpiece; different in the Swedish pic, a lot of wear there that isn't on the GBase pic......???? Not so sure it is the same guitar. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
j45nick Posted November 1, 2012 Share Posted November 1, 2012 But look at the Bigsby tailpiece; different in the Swedish pic, a lot of wear there that isn't on the GBase pic......???? Not so sure it is the same guitar. True, but I'd want to see it in person before committing to buying it. Depending on the nature of the repaired headstock crack, that factor alone could knock 30-50% off the value of the guitar, even if properly repaired. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GuitarBuilder Posted November 1, 2012 Share Posted November 1, 2012 Stay away!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JimR56 Posted November 1, 2012 Share Posted November 1, 2012 But look at the Bigsby tailpiece; different in the Swedish pic, a lot of wear there that isn't on the GBase pic......???? Not so sure it is the same guitar. It looks like the blocket scammer has now removed the photo he stole from gbase. The point is, he originally included a photo that was identical (except for being photoshopped, as mentioned above) to a photo of a 335 on sale at gbase, and that's a red flag that it was a scam. The very fact that the seller DID have photos of two different guitars is a big red flag, especially when it's obvious that one of the guitars being illustrated actually belongs to somebody else (the gbase seller). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kleinman Posted November 2, 2012 Share Posted November 2, 2012 Yip,,,,,Please stay away. For $10k you WILL find a very good 335 elsewhere. Good luck. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdgm Posted November 3, 2012 Share Posted November 3, 2012 True, but I'd want to see it in person before committing to buying it. Depending on the nature of the repaired headstock crack, that factor alone could knock 30-50% off the value of the guitar, even if properly repaired. Agreed. Have to say I would not even consider a guitar with a repaired headstock. There are far too many undamaged ones out there to buy!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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