Gilgamesh Posted January 14, 2013 Share Posted January 14, 2013 Hello Folks, I have #83 of 1965 produced, a coveted very low number. I purchased it from Rainbow Guitars here in Tucson last summer, still as "new", never played over the years, because the headstock required repair after an accident in shipping from the factory. The guitar remains excellent, as new, not a blemish. I wouldn't have noticed the headstock hairline remnant of the repair if it hadn't been revealed. So I bought it as a player, a bit cheaper than a new es330. It is a magical guitar. I had bought it to replace a Gibson es320 with musicmaster pickups that I decided weren't tonally what I wanted on my recordings. However, at this time, I have come to know that I prefer PAF's. What degree of sacrilege would it be to pull the p-90's on this guitar and replace them with the vintage 1968 T-Tops I have had surplus for some time. The body would need routing... Yes, I should really buy an es335, and to first sell the Revolution intact... But the guitar needs to be played and those PAF's need to hum... Comments from those who know and care, please. Gilgamesh Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
antwhi2001 Posted January 14, 2013 Share Posted January 14, 2013 Have you thought about what pickup surrounds you are going to use and how you are going to cover the screw holes/marks left by the dog-ear covers on the P90s? Humbuckers are wider across, hence you acknowledge the need to remove wood, but they are shorter too. I suspect that at the very least, you'll have 2 very visible screw holes at the side of your new pickups. You could make some sort of escutcheon to cover these, but it probably won't look pretty. Gibsons' solution to this was the mini humbucker, a humbucker with the same footprint as a P90. That's the best way of getting a 2-humbucker Casino. Bear in mind it won't sound just like a 335/Dot either. Casinos are completely hollow, 335s etc have a very substantial centre block which helps control feedback. I just wouldn't do it; you'll trash the resale value and it won't look great cosmetically. Sell the T-tops (some folks will pay good money for them) and look out for a pair of mini-hums. Sound-wise, they are very similar to PAFs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigneil Posted January 14, 2013 Share Posted January 14, 2013 You know its wrong lol. Why not get mini humbuckers or some P100s , but its your guitar ... Up to you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Birki Posted January 16, 2013 Share Posted January 16, 2013 hi! just recently, I replaced two P90 dogears on a semiacoustic with tvjones-classics. they have a mounting ring for dogear-mounts, and they sound awesome ... worth a consideration? yours wolfi Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gunner Posted January 17, 2013 Share Posted January 17, 2013 Personally, I wouldn't do it due to the sacrilege factor, but I totally agree it's your guitar and you can do whatever you want with it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Birki Posted January 17, 2013 Share Posted January 17, 2013 hi! here is a photo of my VGS (a german brand built in china) mustang, where the dogears were replaced with TVJones - no routing or drilling, and the sound is well worth the effort ... yours wolfi Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clarkuss Posted January 17, 2013 Share Posted January 17, 2013 Don't do it! I'm obviously bias but I think it would be a great shame to see this limited edition guitar modified irreversibly, especially after such an effort has been made to save it after the headstock break. If you're dead set on using these pickups on a casino, sell it and buy an elitist or Inspired By. If you want to keep the guitar but not happy with the tone, try changing the pots/caps and especially the nylon saddles to get a different sound. But routing the body would be a shame IMO... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Birki Posted January 17, 2013 Share Posted January 17, 2013 Don't do it! I'm obviously bias but I think it would be a great shame to see this limited edition guitar modified irreversibly, especially after such an effort has been made to save it after the headstock break. If you're dead set on using these pickups on a casino, sell it and buy an elitist or Inspired By. If you want to keep the guitar but not happy with the tone, try changing the pots/caps and especially the nylon saddles to get a different sound. But routing the body would be a shame IMO... hi! routing the body is a shame, true. one can do this on a beater. but changing the pups is ok since a guitar that does not sound right to the player is worth nothing at all! yours wolfi PS: @clarkuss - may i have your avatar in 2400 dpi and an original size of 10x 7 metres ... i think of putting a new finish on my house! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clarkuss Posted January 18, 2013 Share Posted January 18, 2013 hi! routing the body is a shame, true. one can do this on a beater. but changing the pups is ok since a guitar that does not sound right to the player is worth nothing at all! yours wolfi PS: @clarkuss - may i have your avatar in 2400 dpi and an original size of 10x 7 metres ... i think of putting a new finish on my house! I don't think there is an issue with the pick ups as he says it's a magical guitar but rather, the wrong guitar/player combo. The pickups are the top of the line USA made by Gibson 60s spec P-90s. Betty seems to like them: Clickety Click Casino Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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