davwir Posted September 10, 2013 Share Posted September 10, 2013 Should all Gibson ES-175s have a "label" inside the f-hole? Mine does not seem to have one, although it does have a serial number on the back of the headstock (91043531) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davwir Posted September 11, 2013 Author Share Posted September 11, 2013 Should all Gibson ES-175s have a "label" inside the f-hole? Mine does not seem to have one, although it does have a serial number on the back of the headstock (91043531) Can anyone conform if their ES175s have a label in the F-holes? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PP_CS336 Posted September 12, 2013 Share Posted September 12, 2013 davwir, I'm not certain about the ES-175s, but I have a CS-336 (CS = Custom Shop) and it did not come with a label in it. I called up Gibson Customer Service to ask them about it and had it confirmed. (several of the guys on the forum who own CS-336s said the same thing) I gave the representative my serial number and he told me the date of manufacture, what music store it was shipped to and on what date it was sent. It all matched up and they confirmed it for me. Maybe that's all you need to do to get some satisfaction to you question. Paul (PP_CS336). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdgm Posted September 12, 2013 Share Posted September 12, 2013 I have a new 2013 gibson ES175 with an oval red label visible through the top f- hole. Yes generally all ES models should or would have had a label inside when they left the factory. And Gibson acoustics too. At least that was the way it used to be. I know little or nothing about CS models except that some CS-made solid bodies don't always have even a COA so it wouldn't surprise me if they don't all have labels. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PP_CS336 Posted September 13, 2013 Share Posted September 13, 2013 I have a new 2013 gibson ES175 with an oval red label visible through the top f- hole. Yes generally all ES models should or would have had a label inside when they left the factory. And Gibson acoustics too. At least that was the way it used to be. I know little or nothing about CS models except that some CS-made solid bodies don't always have even a COA so it wouldn't surprise me if they don't all have labels. jdgm...I got a COA (Certificate of Authenticity) with my 2008 CS-336. No label though (see my previous post). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TravisC Posted September 14, 2013 Share Posted September 14, 2013 Should all Gibson ES-175s have a "label" inside the f-hole? Mine does not seem to have one, although it does have a serial number on the back of the headstock (91043531) My 1960 ES 175 has a label inside the f hole although I gather from the serial, yours is 1993 (I think I've got that right) so I wouldn't like to speculate whether things were changed over the years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davwir Posted September 14, 2013 Author Share Posted September 14, 2013 Hoping somebody with a 90s one (or who knows the info) can weigh in on whether it should have one or not Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdgm Posted September 14, 2013 Share Posted September 14, 2013 I definitely think your ES175 should have a label inside, visible through the upper f-hole. I've never seen a 175 without one. The 80s ones after Henry took over had an old-style Gibson logo on the label. I don't see why they might have stopped labelling then started again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sandy2 Posted September 15, 2013 Share Posted September 15, 2013 I have a 2005 ES 175 and it definitely has an orange oval label with model and serial number visible through the F-hole on the bass side of the guitar. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimmyl51 Posted September 15, 2013 Share Posted September 15, 2013 Hey Sandy, yep my 175 single pickup reissue has that label also inside the F-hole........and I DIDN'T get the guitar from Mr.Frank.........jim in Maine Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gibnut Posted September 25, 2013 Share Posted September 25, 2013 I have a 1988 Ser # and made in USA impressed in headstock. Mahogany back and sides. no label or trace of glue where it would be. Gold Grovers. No extra holes. Original brown case, pink lining. Pat number on pickups. Bought from original owner. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Twang Gang Posted September 25, 2013 Share Posted September 25, 2013 As long as you got a serial number on the headstock I wouldn't worry about it. Those of us that have been buying, playing, trading Gibsons for a long time have come to realize that consistency is not their forte. Somebody probably forgot to order the labels from the paper place and they ran out for a week or two so shipped a bunch without labels or some such. But in spite of these quirky things that happen, they make a great guitar and how it sounds, feels and plays is the most important. Enjoy it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gibnut Posted September 25, 2013 Share Posted September 25, 2013 As long as you got a serial number on the headstock I wouldn't worry about it. Those of us that have been buying, playing, trading Gibsons for a long time have come to realize that consistency is not their forte. Somebody probably forgot to order the labels from the paper place and they ran out for a week or two so shipped a bunch without labels or some such. But in spite of these quirky things that happen, they make a great guitar and how it sounds, feels and plays is the most important. Enjoy it. My feelings as well. Bought my first Les Paul Custom in 86. Got all excited because It had a blue wall anchor for the bottom strap pin. Called factory and a supervisor said they did this because guys were stripping out the screw threads. Still have it. Would never part with it . I think people forget Gibson is a factory and is subject to spec changes, parts supplier changes and they are in business to make a profit. My 88 es 175 was built on Jan 22 and I would expect that the parts on her would be 87's at latest. As 88 and 89 rolled on Bill Lawrence pick ups start getting phased in. They are going to use up back stock first. Maybe a guitar gets a mix of pickups. As far as the label, maybe they were set to change after 1st of year and they were delayed in arrival from printer. I have literally dozens of Gibsons and they all have the magic that only a hand finished (yes it is ok to use power tools) imparts when using great wood to begin with. Little "defects" that people deride them for are inherent in anything hand made. CNC is not perfect either. Part of the character of the instrument. It is fun to try to second guess what the guys on the line were doing but in the end, they just built great guitars. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dponzi Posted September 26, 2013 Share Posted September 26, 2013 I have a 76' ES-175, and it does not have a sticker inside. I've seen other ES models from that era that didn't have them either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jabberwocky Posted October 3, 2013 Share Posted October 3, 2013 I have a 76' ES-175, and it does not have a sticker inside. I've seen other ES models from that era that didn't have them either. Common to most Gibson archtops of that Norlin era. Many were shipped without labels attached. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdgm Posted October 3, 2013 Share Posted October 3, 2013 I stand corrected....thankyou. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dchristo Posted October 15, 2013 Share Posted October 15, 2013 my 1992 country gentleman has a white label inside bass f hole Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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