jaxson50 Posted November 29, 2014 Author Share Posted November 29, 2014 1416703040[/url]' post='1593723']Bunch a damn nitpickers in this place Jaxson A brother can't get a break! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaxson50 Posted November 29, 2014 Author Share Posted November 29, 2014 https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=dftrm1bPu88 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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4Hayden Posted November 29, 2014 Share Posted November 29, 2014 With all due respect top Tony White, I thought James Brown invented the two chord groove. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OnnhmtUkGdY Wasn't BB King a 2 & 3 chord man in the beginning ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cougar Posted November 29, 2014 Share Posted November 29, 2014 https://m.youtube.co...h?v=dftrm1bPu88 John Lee Hooker, Tupelo Blues = spoken word with guitar riff repeated in background. :unsure: 111144441111111144444444111111662222555511111155 = gospel variation. Discuss. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zigzag Posted November 29, 2014 Share Posted November 29, 2014 Well, any chord which is built only with notes entirely from the scale of the key and mode could be said to be part of the melody, lick/riff as you put it. Semantics aside, there was a 3 chord and a 4 chord played... ...and if not played, implied. Any key/tonal center has seven modes and will harmonize with seven chords. This is the concept behind modal music. Nice playing Farns! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stein Posted November 29, 2014 Share Posted November 29, 2014 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SGyAAWu3Gks&feature=player_detailpagehhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=3Wd2DveN0R0ttps://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=SGyAAWu3Gks#t=0 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Kaiser Bill Posted November 29, 2014 Share Posted November 29, 2014 I counted three chords when I listened for a minute...didn't listen all the way through. It reminded me of the chorus of "Polk Salad" which I've been doin' since it came out in '69. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stein Posted November 29, 2014 Share Posted November 29, 2014 I suck at this computer link videos thingy. I put these 3 versions of "Hip Shake" to show what and where the "LaGrange" comes from. As you can see, everyone plays it a little differently. But that doesn't really change it. Perhaps one can see where "riffs" become "chords", depending on how you play it or your view. BUT...it is traditional in Blues to recognize where something comes from, or to know what you are playing in a sense. Whether you are playing it different, stealing it, or even changing it. With Blues, it IS common to use exactly the same "tune" for different songs. It's more rare that one song (like "Hip Shake") to become well known and played by everybody than it is for the same riff or chord progression to be used by different people for different songs. Also, common to straight up steal. Like "La Grange". It isn't considered "stealing" where Blues is concerned. Many, if they don't call this riff hip shake, call this a one-chord-boogie. I'd guess it's the most common name for it. I wonder how many Blues tunes were written based on this? Many, including me, also consider Hookers stuff and HIS riff(s) to be the same thing. Look at how close that "Tupelo" riff/chord is to "Boom Boom", AND a lot of his other stuff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
milod Posted November 29, 2014 Share Posted November 29, 2014 I got to watch this guy back in '64 up pretty close. His version of Baby Please Don't Go is kinda common in terms of what I was hearing back then from some of the old black guys and the younger white folks trying to do close copies 'stedda making a direct "turn it into rock" version. Basically the lyric is all on one "chord" (note the open turning of the 9-string guitar) - then the instrumental "in-between" hits 1-4-5 as in a more "typical" 12-bar piece. Bottom line as I've noted through the years is that "blues" is so broad a term as to be almost impossible to define even as "life" in an amoeba can't be dissected along with bits of chemical and structure. For fancier pickin', let this play out, then listen to "left me a mule to ride." Interesting. *** Stein: take off the "s" in https in the address and you'll get the vid showing up here, otherwise it's just the jump. m Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaxson50 Posted November 30, 2014 Author Share Posted November 30, 2014 Not bragging, just saying it like it is, I have stood not fifteen feet from John Lee when he played Tupelo, he played one cord, E, he played a G note as a bass line, not a cord.I also spent the afternoon with Mance Lipscomb and watched him play, some of his songs were one cord, but he played octaves on slide. Much of Howlin Wolfs and John Lee's best songs are very simple, one or two cord with no chorus or "turn arounds". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zigzag Posted November 30, 2014 Share Posted November 30, 2014 Elvis said he could only play three chords, but usually played none. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cougar Posted November 30, 2014 Share Posted November 30, 2014 Well, I'm going to nitpick no more. The old blues masters know and can tell us what the blues is. But 12-bar blues is totally unique and that's why I'm such a fan -- you can sit down and play with anybody and know exactly where they're going. Like this sort of upbeat 12-bar piece I multitracked with different natural-sounding synth voices several years ago. I even brought in a little big band sound once it gets going... Is that a great synth lead guitar voice or what? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaxson50 Posted November 30, 2014 Author Share Posted November 30, 2014 1417364063[/url]' post='1596723']Well, I'm going to nitpick no more. The old blues masters know and can tell us what the blues is. But 12-bar blues is totally unique and that's why I'm such a fan -- you can sit down and play with anybody and know exactly where they're going. Like this sort of upbeat 12-bar piece I multitracked with different natural-sounding synth voices several years ago. I even brought in a little big band sound once it gets going... Is that a great synth lead guitar voice or what? I never intended to suggest you had to do one or the other....just add something more to your box of goodies!And by the way,,,great playing on you link! What guitar are you using? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaxson50 Posted November 30, 2014 Author Share Posted November 30, 2014 1417315055[/url]' post='1596589']Elvis said he could only play three chords, but usually played none. J.R. was the same way, but with voices like those guys, who needs a bunch of cords? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
milod Posted November 30, 2014 Share Posted November 30, 2014 I can see the "one chord" thing two ways. One is that the basic background accompaniment is essentially grounded at one chord - but that bass lines and vocals add notes that would be technically another chord. But as I wrote earlier, I think that a technical analysis of "off the top of the head" blues especially of the "old" pickers is never going to really describe what's happening musically, either for the performer or listener. m Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cougar Posted November 30, 2014 Share Posted November 30, 2014 I never intended to suggest you had to do one or the other....just add something more to your box of goodies! Oh, I know. I'm just trying to say I get what you're saying. And by the way,,,great playing on you link! What guitar are you using? Thanks, jaxon. But I'm telling you, I'm playing that guitar "voice" on a keyboard. That whole piece is keyboard playing different tracks into cubase. I've got a much better flute voice now, I might add. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaxson50 Posted December 1, 2014 Author Share Posted December 1, 2014 1417389570[/url]' post='1596902']Oh, I know. I'm just trying to say I get what you're saying. Thanks, jaxon. But I'm telling you, I'm playing that guitar "voice" on a keyboard. That whole piece is keyboard playing different tracks into cubase. I've got a much better flute voice now, I might add. I got it now, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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