We salute you

[delawaregold]

Congratulations to Gibson for not caving in to the thin,

but vocal call - to break your promise to the environment,

and use Brazilian Rosewood.

[LPCollector]

Well spoken my friend!

 

Gibson's actions show great character in an unsteady marketplace.

 

Salute!

[Tim Plains]

Bullsh*t! If you didn't own historics with BZ you wouldn't be saluting Gibson.

The real message here is thank your for not devaluing my 2003 BZ.

[Rick]

and is that a good thing or a bad thing? i didn't understood sorry

[Tim Plains]

It's good if you bought a reissue with a Brazilian fretboard in 2003 strictly as an investment.

It's not good if you don't already own one and want one.

[ninety1vee]

It's good if you bought a reissue with a Brazilian fretboard in 2003 strictly as an investment.

It's not good if you don't already own one and want one.

 

exactly' date=' you know what i say? screw nature i want an endangered guitar

wait i already have a flying V, those are pretty endangered right?

[LPCollector]

Bullsh*t! If you didn't own historics with BZ you wouldn't be saluting Gibson.

The real message here is thank your for not devaluing my 2003 BZ.

 

 

ABSOLUTELY!

 

In an unsteady world with people ripping their fellow man off' date=' corporations screwing everyone then getting government hand outs, the stock market affecting people whom have NEVER put a dime into it, the elderly having to go back to work due to their pensions and investments have been devalued, 401k's loosing value, homes devaluing, ect.

 

It is great to know that Gibson stood by their promise of not using Braz again........which allows those whom have purchased Braz to have at least one investment that hasn't tanked.

 

........oh, then there is also the fact that Braz is endangered of becoming extinct.......if we handle and manage Braz properly now.......maybe we can use it again in the future.[/b']

[delawaregold]

If you want to believe that there was some other motive in my post,

that is your opinion, and you are entitled to it.

[Cat Daddy]

Fender is trying to profiteer by using

an endangered species to promote a guitar that was not known for a Brazilian Rosewood Fret Board.

 

Just to clarify...Fender started using Brazilian Rosewood on their 1958 Jazzmaster. Fender Stratocasters made between 1959 and 1966 were known to have Brazilian Rosewood fretboards. In 1966' date=' Fender switched to Indian Rosewood...and with the exception of a few recent Custom Shop models (including the one you cited), they have used Indian Rosewood or maple exclusively for their fretboards.

 

As I see it, nothing is stopping anyone from buying a guitar with a

Brazilian Fret Board. Pony up for a Gibson Les Paul, (1952 to 1960) or 2003.

Or buy a Fender, (1958 to 1966) or certain Fender Custom Shop models .

[FIXED]

 

While I, too, applaud Gibson for refraining from using an endangered tonewood in their instruments today...fair is fair. Where was your sense of moral outrage back in 2003, when Gibson last used Braz? <g>

 

Cat Daddy

[LPCollector]

Where was your sense of moral outrage back in 2003' date=' when Gibson last used Braz?

[/quote']

 

 

I can't speak for DG, but I for one was unaware of CITES in '03............not everyone was born into this info.

 

 

I'm not sure why the tension is going on here............what's wrong with a Win, Win situation?

[Tim Plains]

No hostility here. I'm just giving DG a hard time.

To me, buying a guitar as an investment is buying one for the wrong reasons.

My point is - you thank Gibson for not using Brazilian again because you're a tree huger and actually care about the future insecurity of Brazilian rosewood and it's endangered status, not because you own a couple unplayed '03 Brazilians.

[Rick]

It's good if you bought a reissue with a Brazilian fretboard in 2003 strictly as an investment.

It's not good if you don't already own one and want one.

 

and if i don't have one but i don't wanna have one?

[delawaregold]

 

While I' date=' too, applaud Gibson for refraining from using an endangered tonewood in their instruments today...fair is fair. Where was your sense of moral outrage back in 2003, when Gibson last used Braz?

 

Cat Daddy[/quote']

 

No moral outrage needed. Gibson used Brazilian that was in compliance with

CITES. As Im sure Fender does today. My point is, that the Gibson Les Paul

Standard always used Brazilian Rosewood, since the first one was made, until

the model was discontinued in 1960, and to use legally obtained Brazilian

Rosewood in 2003 was consistent with the history of the guitar.

Gibsons use of Brazilian Rosewood wasnt done to drive sales, it was done to

improve historical accuracy. Brazilian Rosewood wasnt a special order in

2003. It was used across the board on every Historic Reissue made before the

cut-off date. When Gibson decided to not use Brazilian Rosewood, because

of its status as endangered, it was a decision based on moral responsibility,

that they have not wavered from. In this day, and age, a company that operates

with high moral standards, and ethical responsibility is almost unheard of, and

is worthy of a little praise. Thus the nature of my post. Some may question my

motives, and that is of course their prerogative, but it is nothing more than this.

[rsx]

quit with the blue writing already. It's annoying.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

...But good point

[Cat Daddy]

 

No moral outrage needed. Gibson used Brazilian that was in compliance with

CITES. As I’m sure Fender does today. My point is' date=' that the Gibson Les Paul

Standard always used Brazilian Rosewood, since the first one was made, until

the model was discontinued in 1960, and to use legally obtained Brazilian

Rosewood in 2003 was consistent with the history of the guitar.

Gibson’s use of Brazilian Rosewood wasn’t done to drive sales, it was done to

improve historical accuracy. Brazilian Rosewood wasn’t a “special order” in

2003. It was used across the board on every Historic Reissue made before the

cut-off date. When Gibson decided to not use Brazilian Rosewood, because

of it’s status as endangered, it was a decision based on moral responsibility,

that they have not wavered from. In this day, and age, a company that operates

with high moral standards, and ethical responsibility is almost unheard of, and

is worthy of a little praise. Thus the nature of my post. Some may question my

motives, and that is of course their prerogative, but it is nothing more than this.[/b']

 

Hi, DG!

 

Which Fender Masterbuilt Stratocasters were you talking about in your previous post? And do you have a link to them?

 

I know that the Fender Custom Shop used Brazilian rosewood as the fretboard material in some of their recent Strat models, but I thought that Braz was used to be historically accurate...as Gibson did in 2003.

 

If the Fender Masterbuilt Strat you mentioned was based on a 1954 to 1958 model, then I can certainly see your point, since Fender didn't use Brazilian rosewood fingerboards then. On the other hand, if the FMS was based on a 1959 to 1966 model, then their use of Braz would indeed be historically accurate.

 

Just trying to give the Devil his due! <g>

 

Cat Daddy

[delawaregold]

rsx, since you didnt specify a color, I am trying green. I hope you like it better.

[Kimbabig]

Who cares about the environment anyway? Science will fix it.

[dem00n]

Who cares about the environment anyway? Science will fix it.

[Kimbabig]