Rambler Posted March 22, 2016 Share Posted March 22, 2016 The great tendency in bluegrass -- which emphasizes the downbeat ("folk music in overdrive") -- is to speed up. Great Bill Monroe story about this. He was trying out a guy for the band. Kept changing the pace with his chop. The tune didn't come together. Afterword, Monore allowed that he had a low opinion of the musician-- "I could drive him right down." Not this this particularly relevant to the OPs question. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
E-minor7 Posted March 22, 2016 Share Posted March 22, 2016 Hey I need lessons as much as the next guy Please don't - t'would spoil what ya already got. . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MissouriPicker Posted March 22, 2016 Share Posted March 22, 2016 There's an easy solution to all of this worry about timing, being on key, guitar playing, etc. Hell, if you play a banjo you don't have to worry about timing and being on key. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blindboygrunt Posted March 22, 2016 Share Posted March 22, 2016 Please don't - t'would spoil what ya already got. . I'm not sure if that's a compliment or not 😄 There's things to be taken from this particular video , the most important being to know the song indside out before performing it . And if you're going to play 'dont think twice ' you have to think about the girl/man who broke your heart . If you're going to play 'my generation' you better get a little bit of anger built up before you start You can look everywhere and see someone singing songs , note perfect and impeccable timing but without a single grain of feeling what the lyrics are . It comes across . Well , does to me anyway Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EuroAussie Posted March 22, 2016 Share Posted March 22, 2016 I'm not sure if that's a compliment or not 😄 There's things to be taken from this particular video , the most important being to know the song indside out before performing it . And if you're going to play 'dont think twice ' you have to think about the girl/man who broke your heart . If you're going to play 'my generation' you better get a little bit of anger built up before you start You can look everywhere and see someone singing songs , note perfect and impeccable timing but without a single grain of feeling what the lyrics are . It comes across . Well , does to me anyway Well said BBG. Fully concur. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tpbiii Posted March 22, 2016 Share Posted March 22, 2016 Great Bill Monroe story about this. He was trying out a guy for the band. Kept changing the pace with his chop. The tune didn't come together. Afterword, Monore allowed that he had a low opinion of the musician-- "I could drive him right down." Not this this particularly relevant to the OPs question. Hi Rambler. Flatt and Scruggs had a TV show in the 50s -- pretty much defining music for Bluegrass. To a traditional BG fan, this stuff is the well spring. Well, someone recently analyzed the beat, It turned out they changed all the time and the bass player followed -- usually associated with who had the lead, which changes a lot in bluegrass. But the average beat did not change much -- the music did not speed up or slow down overall. Who knew? Best, -Tom Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blindboygrunt Posted March 22, 2016 Share Posted March 22, 2016 Anyone into Irish traditional music will know that a good bodhran player will match his beat to the guitar and song rather than the rock n roll school who follow the drums time. There's no right or wrong , metronomes have their place but I don't like them. I like songs to be organic . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
E-minor7 Posted March 22, 2016 Share Posted March 22, 2016 the most important being to know the song indside out before performing it . EA - in all respect - was too easy about this at some point. Wasn't a good sign. Made him less than a beginner = A beginner light. Glad to see that changed later. And if you're going to play 'dont think twice ' you have to think about the girl/man who broke your heart . If you're going to play 'my generation' you better get a little bit of anger built up before you start Right on - been trying to get into St. James Infirmary over the weekend and find it a bit hard 'xactly for that reason. Too dark. Even had to modify the lyrics a bit to be able to touch it. Sacrilege - hmmm, not really as it's one of those old torch ballad that's been handed down differently through the years. I would never do that to a newer song - a Fab or a Bob tune fx. . . But all in all taking on a song is demanding stuff. Like playing cowboys & indians as kids, you have to take it seriously to get your kick. All this make me direct a Q to Sal : Can one play that 1968 Revolution thing without bein' revolutionary, , , in one way or an other. Concrete or abstract. And if goin' #2 what is your inner imagery - cargo-partitur ? (if you allow the term) Just curious here. . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blindboygrunt Posted March 22, 2016 Share Posted March 22, 2016 Hope sal chimes in as its directed at him , but perhaps sometimes just imagining you're John Lennon for a few minutes would make it through !! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
E-minor7 Posted March 22, 2016 Share Posted March 22, 2016 . imagining you're John Lennon , , , it's easy if you try. . But who was good John Winston - not sure he really knew, , , especially in 68. . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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