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2019 Les Paul GoldTop sounds like crap


Roland Burt
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Got back into playing guitar this year. Maybe many of us have, being isolated at home and all. I bought a new 2019 Les Paul Standard (Vintage). Guitar is great, but wondering about these pick ups. Kind of hating them, but mostly because of the lower E string. It is well...froggy and wooly, and has no string definition AT ALL.  Ruins playing it for me. This is not my first Les Paul. Used to have a black LP Custom, and a CS 56 Goldtop before falling off playing several years back.  I am generally a fan of stock Gibson pick ups and was happy with those instruments.

So I am wondering what is up with the pups on this new Standard. I know they are newly designed for this model and supposed to be vintage-voiced so not as hot as some other pups. Is it the pick up height? Are the bass strings just distorting the pick up? I looked at the height and it seems okay to me visually.  Or maybe the pups are just poorly wired and should be replaced? Open to dropping in some 57s or some Busrtbuckers. 

Anyway, does anyone have some insight into these newer Gibson pups? Same experience maybe? This seems like a good forum to ask on, and would appreciate any insight or comments. 

 

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I am not sure what is in there, but classic 57 / 57+ are good sounding pickups.

and yea, the first place to check is the pickup height.  you can also turn the pole screws to match the neck radius.  Some say it doesn't matter, some say it does... 

I set all my buckers that way after reading a setup article about 20 years ago I bevel in guitar player.  Does it matter   No idea.. I like the sound of my LPs tho..

one of them  has 490T / 498R which many don't like.  (I Think they're fine)

I have a set of Duncans in my other LP,  I think it's a SH1 in the neck and I know for sure, an SH4 (Jeff Beck) in the bridge. 

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Thanks. I am considering a pick up swap for sure, but will take a look at the height and see if an adjustment does not help out. The issue is with both front and back pick ups.  So maybe a pole height change, etc will help. As for pick up choices  I too liked the 490/498's in my Custom. I actually swapped them out for some aftermarket pups back in the day, and ended up going back to them. Always thought they were nicely voiced for a Custom even though as you say, many tend to hate them for some reason.

I think 57/57+ would be a good choice. Always liked those pups in guitars I've played that had them. Just not sure how they will sound in the new LP. Also considering  Burstbucker 2 & 3's.  But first things first I guess.  Maybe a height adjustment will help out on the factory installed.

 

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8 minutes ago, Roland Burt said:

Thanks. I am considering a pick up swap for sure, but will take a look at the height and see if an adjustment does not help out. The issue is with both front and back pick ups.  So maybe a pole height change, etc will help. As for pick up choices  I too liked the 490/498's in my Custom. I actually swapped them out for some aftermarket pups back in the day, and ended up going back to them. Always thought they were nicely voiced for a Custom even though as you say, many tend to hate them for some reason.

I think 57/57+ would be a good choice. Always liked those pups in guitars I've played that had them. Just not sure how they will sound in the new LP. Also considering  Burstbucker 2 & 3's.  But first things first I guess.  Maybe a height adjustment will help out on the factory installed.

 

Yeah mess with the pole and height. You can always go back if it gets worse. Lindey Fralin makes nice pups.

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