Riffster Posted May 3, 2009 Share Posted May 3, 2009 Sure there have been a lot of format changes lately with the digital age but records were around for 80 years or so before CDs came out. How many records did you own of still own? any rare albums? was your first CD? I have about 150 records, a lot of 80's stuff like Metallica, Iron Maiden, Judas Priest, Slayer, Anthrax, Accept, AC/DC, Motley Crue, Mercyful Fate, King Diamond and stuff like Elvis and the Beatles. Unfortunately I do not think I own any rarities with exception of Metallica's Kill'em All from Megaforce records and a couple of metallica Brittish EPs. I also have an early collection of Black metal frome th elikes of HellHammer and Celtic Frost. My first CD was Skid Row first and eponymus album. I plyed the hell out of the record and then decided to get the CD once I had a CD player. How about you? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daveinspain Posted May 3, 2009 Share Posted May 3, 2009 I used to be a DJ so I have a huge collection of vinyl... Like over 10,000.... I was Djing from 1980 to 1991 as a profession DJ so the vast majority of the collection is Dance but I still have a lot of the LPs I bought when I was growing up in the 70's too... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
guitar_randy Posted May 3, 2009 Share Posted May 3, 2009 I had a good amount of record albums,8 track tapes,cassette tape, but I have since got rid of them . they don't mean anything to me to keep them and technology with sound systemss have improved so much I don't look back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Mick Posted May 3, 2009 Share Posted May 3, 2009 Eye put out an Album on CD before Eye even had a CD player. It took that for me to switch. And when Eye did Eye went all out and spent a LOT of $$$. Eye am actually in a dilemma right now with what to do with all my vinyl. It's all in storage and Eye don't realy need it but just can't seem to let it go. And it's a lot Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Riffster Posted May 3, 2009 Author Share Posted May 3, 2009 I am the same way I have my vynils store away but I just can't get rid of them. 95% of them will sell for $1 the others are more desirable but would command just a few more bucks. I rather keep them. The thing is that records have the best quality sound you can get, granted you use decent stereo equipment. No compression there. I have a friend that has a NAD tube receiver, pro speakers and a $500 turntable and records just sound absolutely incredible. The convenience of MP3s is just overwhelimg though. Carrying all of your music colleciton in a pocket-size device is just incredible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G u e s t Posted May 3, 2009 Share Posted May 3, 2009 Last count 3,000 vinyl, mostly sixties, seventies and a few early eighties. Never made any transition away from it either..... Coupla hundred CD, keep thinking to put the rarer vinyl on CD too, and sell the records. Just sold my Whalefeathers LP for £75 - so it may be a worthwhile undertaking..... But like I said someplace else - younger friends come and rave about their newest discovery..... like Hendrix or the Allmans. I put the original vinyl on through the PA and blast it out at the kinda levels it should be heard at and ninety percent throw away their ipods and mp3 players in disgust, and start seeking out tube-amps and large wooden box loudspeakers. Vinyl, for all its snap, crackle and pop - it cain't be beat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
milod Posted May 3, 2009 Share Posted May 3, 2009 As the pix shows, I'm easily old enough to qualify an answer... I managed to save a bunch of vinyl albums through two fires and a bunch of moves and I still have some decent "stereo" components, as we used to call them. But... I haven't had the stuff to play vinyl out in ages. My tape player is an old "boom box" with both tape and CD capability that I use only to record to the computer. Basically I cassette taped most of the vinyl I listen to most years ago. It's mostly blues, "rock," and some "country" or "cowboy," reflecting personal taste. Unfortunately I didn't do the Brandenbergs or a batch of string quartet stuff ranging from Bach to Bartok, but I still have the vinyl if they haven't been damaged in those moves. Then later on I got a USB sound connector I use to do computer backups of both tapes and CDs as well as recording my own practice sessions or burning something I've done I want to forward to friends who lack MP3 capability in their cars or are a bit less of a "techno" than I am for my age. <grin> My problem with doing more with the vinyl is that I've got every bit as busy a lifestyle as anybody a third of my age and I just don't mess with it any more. Ditto tape. Heck, I'm at work right now and the computer's playing music on lousy speakers. I could get better sound with my earphones but... Naaaah. Here's a fear I have, though, that is the same as I have with photography - and figure I've been shooting anywhere from 20,000 to 50,000 frames a year for over 40 years. Each generation of music "recording" is increasingly ephemeral. A "tintype" (not really the proper name) properly processed 150 years ago will far outlast the shots I took this morning. A wet plate orthochromatic "negative" (some were used as positives as in the Ambrotype, but we won't go there) can last almost forever with glass and silver. "Plastic" film dies, even the black and white. Color negatives and "slide" film is dead inside a half century or less, depending on storage and processing. My digital stuff? Lotza luck. As with photos, I ask myself how long will current digital technology "last," and who will make what sort of choices to preserve this generation's "stuff" for the future? I dunno. I could manufacture my own "record player" for vinyl using 1900s technology and tools, but not to play a CD. I could manufacture a photo reproduction setup using 1890s technology. But not something to reproduce and "save" a digital photo. I obviously love technology, but... one must ask what we're doing with it when various sorts of art that has been taken over by a technology we can't ourselves reproduce. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SHO Posted May 3, 2009 Share Posted May 3, 2009 First album I ever got was Iron Maiden's Killers back in 1983 when I was 6 years old. If I recall correctly I wanted The Number of the Beast which was huge at the time (not sure if Piece of Mind had come out yet) but Killers was cheaper so I think my mom was more into buying that one. Besides, the cover was much cooler than NotB anyway with the bloody axe and everything. Since then I bought everything Maiden released, so that's my "rare stuff" I suppose. Got all albums, EPs and singles Maiden released up to and including Fear of the Dark, at which I decided they just sucked too much and I haven't bought anything by them since. Killers is actually still my favourite album of theirs. Always preferred the Paul DiAnno era stuff. First CD I bought was Megadeth's Rust in Peace album, so that's in 1990 I think. I didn't have a CD player of my own at the time, so I had to take it down to the living room and my parents stereo and tape it. I can't remember the first mp3 I downloaded. I was hanging around at a lot of strange ftp servers early on in that era, but I do remember the first song I ever got from Napster. Frank Zappa's Montana! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Riffster Posted May 3, 2009 Author Share Posted May 3, 2009 milod, I agree, as long as the people that come up with new technology provide an option to save the stuff that becomes "obsolete" I guess it is going to have to be OK. SHO Killers and NotB by Maiden were within my 5 first albums, others include Brittish Steel and Metallica. I also have all Maiden LPs, but I only have a few of the singles in vynil. I have all Metallica's LPs and a few singles and a lot of the Mercyful Fate early records. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
milod Posted May 3, 2009 Share Posted May 3, 2009 Well... I think we're already seeing what I predicted a dozen years ago for text - Microsoft's "docx" format can't even easily be read by the sort of reader one uses to check out computer "code." Ascii has been around in ways for a long, long time. But who saves it and where? Ditto music and images, let alone video. Even now it's virtually impossible to find and/or record a lot of stuff recorded in WWII that's currently not politically correct. That's "ART" we've had stolen from all of us through collusion of government, academia and business. Seriously, I wonder what's next. Heck, the UK is a haven nowadays for lawsuits against US authors under UK, not US law, and it's all intended to quash our freedom of speech - which includes artforms such as music as well as text. Any guitar player or songwriter, whether right or left wing or down the center, should be concerned about this. When somebody in government decides I can't listen to blues that references race or culture, something's wrong from any perspective... A lot of music from our history is, in my personal belief, "hidden away" or destroyed because it's not politically correct in modern terms. That's OUR history that has been literally stolen. It already has happened in terms of centuries-old place names in the U.S. You think Google got in trouble for running old maps of Tokyo that aren't politically correct today? Hey, I can tell you there are old maps of my area that are being purged from computer records because certain "insensitive" place names have been changed or just plain deleted. Yeah, perhaps like porn there's nothing wrong with labeling some music "adult" or forbidding the audio equivalent of certain types of porn. But, c'mon, do we really wanna delete Leadbelly's "Yellah gal" or purge all historical records of maps with politically incorrect place names? It's not just government, by the way. Consider how Walmart helps control the CD market and what can be recorded. Today it's "dirty words." Tomorrow... ???? The digital revolution has given the "we know best" folks a great new tool that trumps any hand the rest of us may have - since I doubt any of us on this forum are capable of creating the means to maintain a lot of literature, music, images and video... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rockin365 Posted May 3, 2009 Share Posted May 3, 2009 Unfortuanatly easy :o( My first flat got broken into and my record collection stolen. around 2000 records and no house insurance. The biggest loss in my life so far. :o( Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steven Tari Posted May 3, 2009 Share Posted May 3, 2009 Mine go back to the 60's& 70's. I have original beatles. My White Album is on White Vinyle. I have a box load of 8 tracks. Don't know if they still play. Two 8 track players, one of which is Quadraphonic. To cassettes and then CD's. Lost al my reel to reels in a move years ago. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NeoConMan Posted May 3, 2009 Share Posted May 3, 2009 I have about 500 lp's and probably as many cd's. I had a few 8 tracks as a kid in the seventies, but bought a stereo so I could record my own albums to cassette. I probably bought no more than 50 factory cassettes in my life preferring to record my own from vinyl kept safely at home. I started buying albums in 1976 I think.... A couple early ones I still have are Kansas - Leftoverture Fleetwood Mac - Rumours A couple by Bad Company Kiss - Alive, Destroyer and Rock and Roll Over I went to cd finally in 1989 if I recall. Smithereens had just released an album called "11". I bought it in vinyl and a couple weeks later I bought it again on cd. This started my crusade to get all my favorite old albums on disc which never really got far. As far as the longevity of digital music, wouldn't a compact disc be the most durable? The signal is actually physically etched into the aluminum surface inside the disc, safe from damage, eh? Scratch the disc all you want, but polycarbonate can be buffed and polished back to its original clarity, eh? That's the assumption (misguided?) I've been operating on, considering an electronic file may be subject to decay similar to magnetic tapes while the pits on a cd are similar to the permanent grooves on an lp record..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Riffster Posted May 3, 2009 Author Share Posted May 3, 2009 Yea, I also assume CDs are forever. Initially though I thought CDs ere better than LPs but then I learned they are compressed and limited to the format itself. DVD Audio with much better fidelity just never took off, that would have been amazing. As for CDs I eneded up buying a lot of the same records I already had and for some other I just bought the greatest hits CD. I also used to transfer my LPs to tape so I could play them in my car. By the way over Christmas I played a Record from 1908 at my in laws, cranked that mother up!! like literally, the record player had a crank. No electricity needed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rocky4 Posted May 3, 2009 Share Posted May 3, 2009 I resisted at first as the thought of having to replace 400+ albums with cds didn't sound appealing, but I finally caved. I bought a Hitachi cd player. Led Zeppelin 2 was my first cd. I had an interesting album collection. A few Zep bootlegs (the live version of Thank You rocked!), Heart's Magazine released as their second album which was pulled due to a lawsuit, Hendrix In The West, and many obscure one hit wonders. I tried to sell them with no luck and finally gave them away. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
milod Posted May 3, 2009 Share Posted May 3, 2009 CDs forever? C'mon, guys. Even holding such as text and images, there's good reason to believe that perhaps five to 10 years is the max one can figure on reliable use - depending on how the thing is stored, etc. You have cheap plastic laminated with some aluminum foil. What do you think it takes to delaminate that sort of construction? That's just the physical medium. Now, what makes anybody think the MP3 digital format will remain an industry standard and will be easily accessed in another 50 years? Yeah, when I was a kid most places - including school - had wind-up "record players" that were non-electric and got such volume as one might hear from either an obvious or hidden diaphragm and "horn." But even then, that was for disks and they only worked well with 78 rpm "records." Slow them down and you lose volume. Even then, too, the old "tube" recordings were functionally out of reach to listen to. Then with improving electronics we got into the 45 rpm "single" and the 33 rpm "album." How many homes have a "record player?" Darned few. I once had an eight-track tape player or two. Good luck now reproducing that stuff. How many homes nowadays even have a cassette tape player? Sorry, I've already had so much trouble with CDs dropping dead, or readers out of focus for some of them, that I question they'll last all that long. Heck, MP3 already is taking things over in terms of sales. And how long will that "standard" last? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KSG_Standard Posted May 3, 2009 Share Posted May 3, 2009 I still have more than 250 albums. I listen to many of them regularly. When CDs started taking off, I waited for turntables to go on sale cheap, and I bought 2 Techniques turntables (in case one broke) so that I could listen to my albums for years...They'll get my albums from my cold dead hands... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NeoConMan Posted May 3, 2009 Share Posted May 3, 2009 CDs forever? Well' date=' 25 years so far.... Beats any other medium I've seen hands down. You have cheap plastic laminated with some aluminum foil. What do you think it takes to delaminate that sort of construction? I live in the heat of Arizona, never happened to me yet. Of course, most of my discs stay in the house with the same pleasant climate as my guitars. I record new discs for my travels... How many homes have a "record player?" One here on my road. :-) New Pioneer I bought like KSG I've already had so much trouble with CDs dropping dead' date=' or readers out of focus for some of them [/quote']Never had a disc fail me unless it suffered trauma of some sort. My first disc player failed due to the sliding drawer mechanism breaking. My current one is ten years old and plays all the time. I don't yet fear a shortage of players despite the dramatic rise of digital files in relation to mechanical discs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tuckomf Posted May 3, 2009 Share Posted May 3, 2009 I was on the very tail end of the record era, but I got my share for birthdays and such when I was younger. When CD's were first getting their own sections in big box stores, and tapes were still dominating the scene, records were ending up in droves at the thrift store every week. Since I liked older music anyway, I spent almost all my money on records. I probably had about 600 at one point, filling an entire metal shelf from top to bottom. When I started college, all the indie kids were absolutely nuts for vinyl, so I sold most of my beatles, floyd, motown, and zeppelin records, and everything that I had doubles of. Stuff that I bought 10 for a dollar at St. Mary's Thrift Store was selling for $10-$50 each, depending on the title. And that, my friends, made my transition to cd's much more comfortable. I have my record collection weeded out to about 200 albums, mostly favorites and stuff with sentimental value - and the stuff that I couldn't sell - the shaft soundtrack, some barbara streissand that came in a box at a garage sale, stuff like that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Riffster Posted May 3, 2009 Author Share Posted May 3, 2009 I saw the news the other day and there is a spike on album sales. The local used vynil sellers see steady activity. I think CDs are holding well, the one thing is that I am not sure that a factory CD is the same as a home-burned CD in terms of how they are encoded or the mechnism used and thus their dirability. Somebody told me it is not but I have never looked it up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
milod Posted May 3, 2009 Share Posted May 3, 2009 Guys, if you're happy with CDs, fine. I've got one stuck in my Jeep's player right now. Gotta get out some needlenose plyers to get it out. It may owrk, it may not. In my job I work with the damned things every day. Don't tell me they always "work." Some that were "new" a year ago won't read in any computer in the joint. Again, consider formats. Anybody know how "WordStar" used to be "THE" word processing format on 8-inch floppy disks? How about the PCX graphic format? Hmmmmmm. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NeoConMan Posted May 3, 2009 Share Posted May 3, 2009 I have no problem deferring to your vast knowledge and expertise on the matter, but give me something I can use. What's the answer? How durable is a jump drive or other digital storage? Can it be erased or scrambled by outside influence, like a magnet on a VHS or cassette tape? What format is more durable than a cd? What are YOU going to do for safeguarding your most valuable recordings and photography? If the ship is capsizing I can see that for myself, thank you..... So, tell me where YOU'RE headed to find a life boat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rocky4 Posted May 3, 2009 Share Posted May 3, 2009 Saving your digital music is as easy. Backup Backup Backup There are two types of computers, ones that have crashed and ones that haven't crashed yet Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KSG_Standard Posted May 3, 2009 Share Posted May 3, 2009 Saving your digital music is as easy. Backup Backup Backup There are two types of computers' date=' ones that have crashed and ones that haven't crashed yet[/quote'] +10000 I miss 8-tracks, they were nearly indestructable! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CincinnatiSi Posted May 3, 2009 Share Posted May 3, 2009 I have between 300-400 albums. My first cd was the Police "Ghost in the Machine". I bought it because my two previouis vinyl copies both skipped. A buddy of mine told me he could play his cds loudly in his apartment, but if he played an LP loudly it seemed to bring the cops out to tell him to turn it down. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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