fenrirlupus Posted January 18, 2009 Share Posted January 18, 2009 i have an old organ that i want to re-tube (it has all of the original tubes and i don't want to wait for them to go bad...) and i was wondering if sag was a desirable thing in reverb or not... the "main" rectifier i will definitely replace with a tube, but i was considering going for a solid state rectifier in my reverb unit... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PapaMidnite Posted January 18, 2009 Share Posted January 18, 2009 leave the tube rect .You want as much of that tube Mojo as possible in an Organ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steven Lister Posted January 19, 2009 Share Posted January 19, 2009 Yes generally..., but it may depend on what you want to hear. Enlightenment on the tonal properties of sag as found in someone else's quote: "...the reverb can sag a bit and produce a very natural, and softer response when driven hard – a benefit to blues players in particular." Hit every BLUE NOTE baaaby..., I'm going to play on:-" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cGil Posted January 19, 2009 Share Posted January 19, 2009 If you have an old, but functional tube that sounds dull and anemic and smeared, that would be a really good tube for the reverb tank driver circuit, since those are exactly the right properties that make for better spring reverb tone quality. And use the cheesiest crappiest cables to the tank and back that you can find! You need the smearing, or else it's just your-tone-on-spring. Gil... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bender 4 Life Posted January 19, 2009 Share Posted January 19, 2009 Please be CAREFUL here..........I thought sagging coils were good until they arc'd out ......... the result? lots of "roar".....lots of SMOKE(from winding varnish) a ruined 105w tube head, ruined lead cable,melted insulation OFF much of the wiring in my old Les Paul(Gibson) ruined 3 way switch, ruined volume pot. AND gave me a nasty enough jolt, that i'd have likely died if i'd been grounded. Please have the springs looked at/replaced if necessary. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PapaMidnite Posted January 19, 2009 Share Posted January 19, 2009 ouch. but I think he means tube sag Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fenrirlupus Posted January 19, 2009 Author Share Posted January 19, 2009 leave the tube rect .You want as much of that tube Mojo as possible in an Organ ok thanks. actually' date=' i wanted to fully re tube the organ so i don't wear out the old tubes... they still work, but with the amount i play, they'll be dead within the year. (and organs are easier on tubes than guitar amps... what does that say about how much i play organ? ;'] ) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robo Posted January 19, 2009 Share Posted January 19, 2009 ouch. but I think he means tube sag I'm glad he said it anyway! I think I better check the springs in my reverbs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PapaMidnite Posted January 20, 2009 Share Posted January 20, 2009 Yes do that .I was blasted through the drums once because of this .Could not remember a thing and had six string burn marks across my arm. I grounded on mic ,Saw blue flash Kapoow .I'm glad I can chuckle about it now But Damn!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fenrirlupus Posted January 23, 2009 Author Share Posted January 23, 2009 If you have an old' date=' but functional tube that sounds dull and anemic and smeared, that would be a really good tube for the reverb tank driver circuit, since those are exactly the right properties that make for better spring reverb tone quality. And use the cheesiest crappiest cables to the tank and back that you can find! You need the smearing, or else it's just your-tone-on-spring. Gil...[/quote'] i don't, but that's what ebay's for, right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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