twiggy Posted January 31, 2009 Share Posted January 31, 2009 Hey guys, I really like keystone tuners look and started to think about getting em for me dot. Are there any tuners (in silver) that would fit without any extra drilling? My dot has one screw hole only and all I've seen seems to have two. cheers (sorry if this topic has been already discussed) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TWANG Posted January 31, 2009 Share Posted January 31, 2009 First non grovers but single hole pointed down http://www.allparts.com/store/tuning-keys-3-x-3-tuning-keys-tk-0777-010,Product.asp then two sets of grovers http://www.allparts.com/store/tuning-keys-3-x-3-tuning-keys-tk-7901-001,Product.asp http://www.allparts.com/store/tuning-keys-3-x-3-tuning-keys-tk-7901-010,Product.asp or just replace the buttons http://www.allparts.com/store/tuning-keys-bushings-buttons-tk-7711-000,Product.asp but those have to be melted on.. http://www.allparts.com/store/tuning-keys-bushings-buttons-tk-7715-010,Product.asp and those fit gotohs.. Hmm. thought I had some grover button urls..but nope. Looks like you'd have to go with the full set. TWANG Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twiggy Posted January 31, 2009 Author Share Posted January 31, 2009 cheers Twang. I think I didn't describe my wishes well enough i'm looking for something like these, but with one screw hole only and just out of curiousity, are those heads always plastic? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twiggy Posted January 31, 2009 Author Share Posted January 31, 2009 by the way can someone tell me, from their own experience, does that screwhole from original epi tuner matches screwhole for vintage style one? or do I need to drill both new and fill the old one with something? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TWANG Posted January 31, 2009 Share Posted January 31, 2009 I've never seen a kluson backplate with one screw hole. I have only those urls for the buttons. all you do to add a hole is get a tiny drill bit.. measure it against the length of the threads.. wrap tape around the end of the bit at that depth.. drill until the tape brushes away the dust.. and put on the tuners. I don't think you'll find one screw square tuners.. maybe you will! tWANG Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brad1 Posted January 31, 2009 Share Posted January 31, 2009 TWANG is right. Vintage-type tuners like that have 2 holes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twiggy Posted January 31, 2009 Author Share Posted January 31, 2009 but is that old hole that's already here is in use for vintage tuners? or do I need to fill it and drill two new ones? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
larkin38 Posted January 31, 2009 Share Posted January 31, 2009 Love the vintage Kluson deluxe tuners. Put them on my 1965 Olympic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twiggy Posted March 1, 2009 Author Share Posted March 1, 2009 would gibson deluxe guitar tuners fit in holes of epiphone? Or do I need to enlarge them in any way? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twiggy Posted March 1, 2009 Author Share Posted March 1, 2009 TWANG, I bet you know the size of the tuner holes in epi dot. What are they? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
InsideMan Posted March 1, 2009 Share Posted March 1, 2009 twiggy, It would probably be sheer luck if you were able to re-use the original screw hole. I replaced the machines on my Dot with Klusons. After I dry-fitted and marked the location of the new holes, I realized that the bottom hole was too close to the old hole. So I had to plug the old hole (I glued in sections of round toothpick) and drill new holes. You will probably have to do the same with either the Klusons or the Gibsons. If you go with the Klusons, as I did, you will need adapter bushings (available from Stewart MacDonald). These will adapt the smaller Kluson shafts to the larger holes in your headstock. If you go with the Gibsons (which have screw bushings like your original tuners) you might not have a problem. If the new bushings are smaller than the old, the screw tension against the washer will probably hold them in place for you just fine. If they are larger, you might have to resort to the dreaded TAPERED REAMER. (Actually, you can just buy a drill bit of the correct size and turn it by hand to enlarge the hole.) Cheers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coolcarl Posted March 1, 2009 Share Posted March 1, 2009 Just replaced my Epi Les Paul tuners with a set of Gibson Deluxe. The old bushings had to be pressed out. I had to drill up to 10mm (.393). Be careful for chipping/tearout in the headstock overlay. Mine turned out OK (the new washers alow for some error). The Klusion style holes "almost" line up...pre-drilling is a good idea if you don't want the mount screws to crack the headstock. ( candle wax on the screws helps as well) The new Gibson tuner bushings screw in to the tuner nicely. I love the look and feel of the new tuners!...just realize theres no going back after drilling..lol! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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