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The burst on the Inspired by Casino from Sweetwater is much darker on the edges than my #49 John Lennon,The burst on mine goes to a nice reddish orange before fading into black.I think this gradual fading is more faithful to the original,as someone said maybe the Sweetwater one is apoor example.

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Oh...the original '65's sunbursts were never the same, one guitar to another. There was always some differences in width or darkness of the outer

dark brown, or "black" painted area. I think it looks pretty good! And, they'll vary, a little bit, anyway...I'm quite sure. The finish seems nice an

lightly applied (not "dipped in plastic," etc.), and craftsmanship (by the photos) looks great, too. Also...in the case of the posted images, the Sweetwater

one, is on a grey background, which will make it appear somewhat cooler in color tone, and the actual "John Lennon" reissue version is on copper/orange

background, that warms up, it's color tone. I'd be willing to wager (a small one, of course..LOL), that if they were photographed on the same background,

with same lighting and surroudings, they'd be a LOT closer in appearance. It's just an "educated" guess, though. ;>)

 

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Oh...the original '65's sunbursts were never the same' date=' one guitar to another. There was always some differences in width or darkness of the outer

dark brown, or "black" painted area. I think it looks pretty good! And, they'll vary, a little bit, anyway...I'm quite sure. The finish seems nice an

lightly applied (not "dipped in plastic," etc.), and craftsmanship (by the photos) looks great, too. Also...in the case of the posted images, the Sweetwater

one, is on a grey background, which will make it appear somewhat cooler in color tone, and the actual "John Lennon" reissue version is on copper/orange

background, that warms up, it's color tone. I'd be willing to wager (a small one, of course..LOL), that if they were photographed on the same background,

with same lighting and surroudings, they'd be a LOT closer in appearance. It's just an "educated" guess, though. ;>)

 

CB[/quote']

 

I quite agree! I do graphic layouts, background color plus lighting definitely changes hue of objects in photos.

too bad about the neck/back color though. the shade is too dark to blame lighting.

 

The natural version seems to have a better match to the actual wood color of the 65's.

 

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I was just given a quote by guitar center..i asked for pictures of the hardcase that came with the JL inspired..i also asked if it was the epi 335 hardshell. and this is the reply that i got:

 

Dear Musician,

 

Thank you for your recent inquiry.

 

Unfortunately, no hardshell case is included with this guitar. But, it should fit just fine in an Gibson 335 Hardshell Guitar Case. With sales tax the price should be about $1081.42.

 

Please feel free to contact us if you have any more questions or concerns. We appreciate you choosing Guitar Center. Have a great evening!

 

 

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then i replied and showed him the on the epiphone page that the JL inspired comes with a Hardshell case and pickguard(for the revolution ver)..

so i'm still waiting for their reply.. i wonder if music 123 and musicians friend offer the hardcase..it'll definitely be a bummer if this does not come with a case..

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Ok so i got a reply from guitarcenter:

 

Thank you for your recent inquiry.

 

Unfortunately, I am not showing that this guitar will come with a hardshell case. The manufacture may have started selling these with cases and they have not yet updated their information with us. I do apologize for any issue this may have cause you.

 

Then i checked with music123 ang MF and they said the guitar comes with a hardcase! Yey! Plus music123 does not charge tax to CA! even sweeter..can't wait for the salary on the 8th!

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If these are finished in satin matte finish does that mean a simple layer of gloss will make it look "shiny" like other recent casino productions?

 

Obviously not so relevant for the rev but thinking more of how to turn a matte/satin burst into a normally finished burst.

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Have we confirmed that the burst is also with the matte finish?

 

the sunburst version is a gloss finish -- i imagine it's the same finish that the standard casinos have.

 

the sweetwater pics don't look very glossy

 

the stock photo that is currently on sweetwater doesn't look glossy, but when they had photos of the actual guitars (i'm sure more will come later) you could tell the finish was more shiny than the natural model.

 

EDIT: you can still access the photos of the sunburst guitars even though they've sold: http://www.sweetwater.com/guitargallery/electric/all/s09081501315/ -- you can tell by the glossy neck as well as subtle reflections of the tailpiece on the front that the finish is glossier than the natural "revolution" model. maybe it has a thinner coat than the standard models? i can't imagine it having a nitro finish at this price point though.

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Those are the pictures im talking about. They look very dissimilar to the standard finish as far as i can say

 

I think it's the lighting -- Sweetwater has a nice camera setup there that reduces a lot of the glare. But I agree with you that they don't look as shiny as the standard finish. Maybe it's a thinner coat. But it's obvious through close inspection of the photos that the sunburst is more glossy than the natural version.

 

Also, in comparison with a sunburst Sheraton -- http://www.sweetwater.com/guitargallery/electric/all/s09061500095/ -- they look very similar, which seems to confirm that it's the lighting that is reducing glare off of the gloss finish.

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Thanks for that comparison. Being in the UK, I rarely go on sweetwater but that comparison has restored my faith that it is far more likely to be a normal finish than a "dot studio" style finish or satin. You'd think that for the money they're charging that they'd be happy to drown it in poly for good measure. Then again I don't know which is worse... But I'd prefer to have it finished than unfinished. Again, like the standard's, they're never going to be a $3000 casino but better to be closer and preferable to the last models than 2 steps forward, one step back.

 

I honestly cannot wait to try either one of these out. As much as I want a japanese/usa casino, these are a huge step forward in both the casino and epiphone market in general. I think they're really coming round to the idea that their heritage of great guitars is more what people want that 45 Zakk Wylde sig guitars.

 

Now all we need is a Keef Casino, McCartney Casino, Ice Te Burst, Coronets, Olympics, Nitro, ES-345/355 Epiphones, Sorrento Reissue, More Rivieras, Centurys etc etc etc

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I think they're produced, to be identical to JL's originals, in finish treatment. So, the '65 Sunburst one, will have a

gloss finish, as it was, before he had it stripped, and refninised. The "Revolution" will be matte, as it was, after the stripping/refinishing process.

 

There's no reason, to think otherwise.

 

CB

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Hey guys quick question' date='

 

For the Natural or Revolution casino's.. isn't there supposed to be a screw head visible on these areas of the guitar since the pickguard has been removed?

 

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Or do you have to drill the holes by yourself when you get a regular natural casino or the inspired version? I forgot if the 65' revolution had these screw heads..

 

Thanks for the help!

 

The new "Inspired by Lennon Casinos" are "inspired by" their their U.S.A. Lennon Casino counterparts but they are not exactly the same. In addition to not having the pickguard holes on the "Revolution" model, we did not first install the "Kluson" tuners and then remove and install the Grover tuners leaving the holes and marks on the back of the headstock. Also - there is no "stamped" serial number, no duplication of John's original serial number and some other minor differences.

 

The Vintage Sunburst or "1965" one is gloss finish. The Natural or "Revolution" one is a satin finish like the U.S.A counterparts. The "Inspired by" Casinos also feature U.S.A. electronics.

 

Thanks,

Epiphone

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Thanks' date=' for the infor Epi 1... Good to get it from the "source," for a change. Poly finishes, too, as opposed to Nitro, on the

actually "Lennon" versions...right? Are the necks 1 piece mahagony, or 3 (headstock and heal joints)?

 

CB [/quote']

 

Hi Charlie,

 

Finish is poly. Necks are 3 pcs. Hardware is nickel. Tops are like original 5-layer maple/birch. Body shape/arch is like the original. We made the tooling off of an original 1965 Casino. Neck joins at the 16th fret. Price includes a hard shell case.

 

You've probably seen this already but for those who have not, here's a link to the product story:

 

http://www.epiphone.com/news.asp?NewsID=1635

 

Thanks,

Epiphone

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Hi Charlie' date='

 

Finish is poly. Necks are 3 pcs. Hardware is nickel. Tops are like original 5-layer maple/birch. Body shape/arch is like the original. We made the tooling off of an original 1965 Casino. Neck joins at the 16th fret. Price includes a hard shell case.

 

You've probably seen this already but for those who have not, here's a link to the product story:

 

http://www.epiphone.com/news.asp?NewsID=1635

 

Thanks,

Epiphone

 

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Thank you for taking the time to answer members questions.

 

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