Anthony_JB Posted April 28, 2010 Share Posted April 28, 2010 So now that I'm wrapping up my Casino project. I come to the task of rewiring my Casino.. I planned on getting some SD Antiquity P-90's but who was I kidding? They're are way expensive. The local Sam Ash in town has Gibson P90's for 70 bucks a pop. I'd save on shipping too so that helps my wallet a bit more. I have ONE question. The Gibby P90s are sold individually as far as I know. Could I buy two P90s and wire them together? or would they sound EXACTLY the same in both the neck and bridge positions? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vic Flick Posted April 28, 2010 Share Posted April 28, 2010 So now that I'm wrapping up my Casino project. I come to the task of rewiring my Casino.. I planned on getting some SD Antiquity P-90's but who was I kidding? They're are way expensive. The local Sam Ash in town has Gibson P90's for 70 bucks a pop. I'd save on shipping too so that helps my wallet a bit more. I have ONE question. The Gibby P90s are sold individually as far as I know. Could I buy two P90s and wire them together? or would they sound EXACTLY the same in both the neck and bridge positions? The bridge & neck pickups for the Casino are different heights, plus I think the pole spacing is slightly different. You should buy a set of pickups designed for the Casino. I know Kent Armstrong makes a set. Another possibility is having someone rewind your pickups to vintage specs. Don't know what that would cost, maybe Ron could tell you what would be involved. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anthony_JB Posted April 28, 2010 Author Share Posted April 28, 2010 The bridge & neck pickups for the Casino are different heights' date=' plus I think the pole spacing is slightly different. You should buy a set of pickups designed for the Casino. I know Kent Armstrong makes a set. Another possibility is having someone rewind your pickups to vintage specs. Don't know what that would cost, maybe Ron could tell you what would be involved.[/quote'] I knew about the differing heights. I thought I could just swap the covers with some covers that AllParts sell as a set. They use the Gibson spacing and the neck cover is slightly angled. Does the spacing really matter? I couldn't I just get a new nut made with the appropriate spacing? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brianh Posted April 28, 2010 Share Posted April 28, 2010 The spacing is very close, and on my IBJL at least, identical. The nut spacing should be replicated from the previous, don't mess with it. You may be able to use the old covers to deal with the height - IDK, haven't tried it. BTW, if you're on a budget, why not just rewire it and use the stock PUPs? Do you know how they'd really sound no longer throttled by the cheap Asian electronics? You might be surprised. PS: If the P94 I have is any indication, the Gibsons P90s should sound goood.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anthony_JB Posted April 28, 2010 Author Share Posted April 28, 2010 I bought new electronics. CTS pots, Switchcraft Jack, Switch, and some Sprague Drop Caps. Just need pickups. The original P90's were good. Maybe it's just me. I don't know, they kinda had me wanting more. I'll do the electronics swap and if the new electronics doesn't satisfy me, I'll go ahead and do the PUP swap at a later time when I can really afford it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluelake07 Posted April 28, 2010 Share Posted April 28, 2010 I couldn't I just get a new nut made with the appropriate spacing? On the subject, you might also consider a bone nut instead of the stock plastic...bone is better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twofeets Posted April 28, 2010 Share Posted April 28, 2010 IDK how Gibson is doing theirs, but lots of makers have a specific pickup for neck and bridge, with the bridge wound anywhere from 5 to 15% hotter than the neck. P90's seem to benefit from this configuration. Whatever pickup you decide to go with, I would recommend it. While you have the guitar apart, I would consider the previous suggestion that you simply have the stock pickups rewound. You've got the basic structure there and the Alnico magnets; if you have someone reputable do a good job scatterwinding them to your specs, you will save some bucks and eliminate the headache/guesswork of "will this work for the Casino." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gordy01 Posted April 28, 2010 Share Posted April 28, 2010 Does the spacing really matter? I couldn't I just get a new nut made with the appropriate spacing? The spacing at the nut should not be changed. If you were to go wider, the strings fall off the side. If you go narrower, they get too close together to play comfortably. Changing the nut spacing will not do much back at the bridge, or even at the end of the neck. You should really get a pickup with the proper spacing for your guitar. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
disaster Posted April 29, 2010 Share Posted April 29, 2010 Go to the Guitar Fetish site & take a look at his P90s. These are much easier on the wallet & perform very well. The Dream90s are probably the place to start. Vintage style P90s. Should work very well in your Casino. The Bridge & Neck pickups are wound to different specs so I recommend buying 1 of each. You can buy 2 of either neck or bridge if you want & experiment. But this will probably cost more in the long run. Also check out e-bay for used Antiquities. You may be able to find them but the P90s aren't as popular as the HBs. Good Luck. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SamBooka Posted April 29, 2010 Share Posted April 29, 2010 On the subject' date=' you might also consider a bone nut instead of the stock plastic...bone is better.[/quote'] I didnt use bone but even the oem gibson replacement nuts are an improvement over the plastic nut on my 92 Samick LP-STD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anthony_JB Posted April 29, 2010 Author Share Posted April 29, 2010 Go to the Guitar Fetish site & take a look at his P90s. These are much easier on the wallet & perform very well. The Dream90s are probably the place to start. Vintage style P90s. Should work very well in your Casino. The Bridge & Neck pickups are wound to different specs so I recommend buying 1 of each. You can buy 2 of either neck or bridge if you want & experiment. But this will probably cost more in the long run. Also check out e-bay for used Antiquities. You may be able to find them but the P90s aren't as popular as the HBs. Good Luck. I was looking at those GFS P90's. But Dream 90's you say? Aren't those humbuckers? I'm trying to stick with the original look as possible. In other words, I want to keep the dogears. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vic Flick Posted April 29, 2010 Share Posted April 29, 2010 I knew about the differing heights. I thought I could just swap the covers with some covers that AllParts sell as a set. They use the Gibson spacing and the neck cover is slightly angled. Does the spacing really matter? I couldn't I just get a new nut made with the appropriate spacing? Generally, the answer is not really. But the problem you could run into is that the P-90 neck pickup spacing is/was 48mm and the bridge pup 50mm. I would guess that the All-Parts covers match this standard. So if you buy two identical Gibson P-90s, one would not properly match the spacing on the All-Parts covers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RP9 Posted April 29, 2010 Share Posted April 29, 2010 I am not sure if this was mentioned in reference to the original question (please excuse me if it was) but no two identical pickups are going to sound 'identical' in the bridge and neck position on ANY guitar. Physics (distance, and all that good stuff) are going to dictate CONSIDERABLE differences. This is why you will see MANY pickups available for 'either/or' position. The real concern will be spacing (i.e. the ability of your current setup to fully and properly recognize the pickup) - as jerrymac has pointed out above. Google is always a good friend, but in this particular instance measurement is simply your BEST friend. "Getting There" means over-riding the hype and doing the math. Period. RP9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Recommended Posts
Archived
This topic is now archived and is closed to further replies.