Casino4Life Posted July 28, 2011 Share Posted July 28, 2011 I had placed an order for a Gotoh 1511 bridge to put on my 2005 Korean made Epiphone Casino, but I canceled the order so I could shop around. My next question is can I put a Gibson ABR-1 bridge on my Casino, if I order bigger posts? I have heard of others putting a Gibson Nashville bridge on their Casinos? Taxman, Tweed, RaStUs anyone help me out here Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gary Moore Tribute Posted July 28, 2011 Share Posted July 28, 2011 I had placed an order for a Gotoh 1511 bridge to put on my 2005 Korean made Epiphone Casino, but I canceled the order so I could shop around. My next question is can I put a Gibson ABR-1 bridge on my Casino, if I order bigger posts? I have heard of others putting a Gibson Nashville bridge on their Casinos? Taxman, Tweed, RaStUs anyone help me out here Fortunately for you the Casino has THIN posts which is also the standard for Gibsons A nashville or ABR1 will both fit fine with no moding Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jerrymac Posted July 28, 2011 Share Posted July 28, 2011 I had placed an order for a Gotoh 1511 bridge to put on my 2005 Korean made Epiphone Casino, but I canceled the order so I could shop around. My next question is can I put a Gibson ABR-1 bridge on my Casino, if I order bigger posts? I have heard of others putting a Gibson Nashville bridge on their Casinos? Taxman, Tweed, RaStUs anyone help me out here God, you're making this way too complicated. You want a good bridge for you're Casino, Gotoh is an excellent choice. The question is which one should you buy. Gibson ABR-1 bridges have thin posts. Metric bridges have a thicker post that have a screwdriver slot. Most Asian imports are metric, but Casinos can have the smaller posts. If you took a picture of your Casino and showed us the bridge we could tell you without a doubt. Let's make it easy for you, the top bridge is a Gotoh 1511, the bottom is a Gotoh 0167: Buy the one that looks like your bridge and be done with it. EDIT: If you have the small screw posts you can use a Gibson ABR-1, but it's more expensive and not as good as the Gotoh in my opinion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Casino4Life Posted July 28, 2011 Author Share Posted July 28, 2011 Jerrymac- I wasn't looking to make it complicated, I simply wanted to make sure that I was getting the right part without having to deal with the hassle of sending the wrong one back. I appreciaite the help, and I looks as if I will go with the 0167 as it looks more of a better fit. Thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jerrymac Posted July 28, 2011 Share Posted July 28, 2011 Jerrymac- I wasn't looking to make it complicated, I simply wanted to make sure that I was getting the right part without having to deal with the hassle of sending the wrong one back. I appreciaite the help, and I looks as if I will go with the 0167 as it looks more of a better fit. Thanks I had a Korean Casino that had thin posts, but you threw me when you said you ordered a Gotoh 1511. It's good you cancelled it, that would have required a major modification to the guitar. Just to make sure, your two posts should be 2-29/32" apart. The Gotoh 0167 is actually more like a Nashville bridge but fits ABR-1 posts. The saddles don't rattle, no retaining wire, it's a little wider so you have more room to adjust the saddles... It's an ABR-1 upgrade with the improved Nashville design... Well made, good design, great pricing. Good luck... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tweed2 Posted July 28, 2011 Share Posted July 28, 2011 Sorry, I have no experience with changing the Casino bridge. With a little tweeking, I kept mine on and I'm happry with it. Now, if your question was about wraparound bridges for Melody Makers or Jrs.... Sounds like you're getting good advise from those in the know. Post pictures and maybe a review. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clarkuss Posted July 29, 2011 Share Posted July 29, 2011 I recently got an ABR-1 style bridge put on my guitar so my nylon saddles would work. No modification needed. Dropped straight in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Casino4Life Posted July 29, 2011 Author Share Posted July 29, 2011 Jerrymac- After some research on different bridges, I have decided to order the Gotoh 0167. Best bang for the buck, thanks for the information! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Casino4Life Posted August 6, 2011 Author Share Posted August 6, 2011 Ok so my new bridge arrived today and I put it on. Well the posts that were already on the guitar seemed to fit better than the ones that game with the new bridge. So my problem now is that I am still getting some buzzing. Could this be from the bridge it self being to high or two low on the posts? Or is this caused by the nut not being cut right? Also what is the proper height the bridge is supposed to be at? Id rather not take the guitar to a tech, but I will If i need to. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RaSTuS Posted August 6, 2011 Share Posted August 6, 2011 <br />Ok so my new bridge arrived today and I put it on. Well the posts that were already on the guitar seemed to fit better than the ones that game with the new bridge. So my problem now is that I am still getting some buzzing. Could this be from the bridge it self being to high or two low on the posts? Or is this caused by the nut not being cut right? Also what is the proper height the bridge is supposed to be at? Id rather not take the guitar to a tech, but I will If i need to.The following figures are nominal, some may prefer slightly different gaps, but these figures are a very good starting point. To check Nut height: Fret the string just past the 2nd fret, there should be a gap of 0.25mm (0.010") between the bottom of the string and the top of the first fret, for a pre-cut nut you should only need to check low and high 'E' strings. To check Neck relief: Put a capo at the 1st fret, then fret at one fret past the neck/body join, halfway along that length there should be a gap the thickness of a business card, 0.5mm (0.020") between the bottom of the string and top of the fret, again check both 'E' strings. If you have those heights sorted out then you should be able to raise or lower the action from the bridge adjustments. Just remember anytime you raise the bridge, the strings should be slackened slightly first. I always adjust my bridge until the fret buzz just disappears under semi-heavy picking, so that really digging in will just give you the slightest hint of buzz, this is my personal preference, YMMV. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Casino4Life Posted August 6, 2011 Author Share Posted August 6, 2011 Rastus- I think I got it figure out, I measured the bridge on my father in laws 1979 Gibson Les Paul Custom Silverburst and it sounds better, but I should mention that I replaced the strings as well so I'll give it a few days and see what happens. Could the nut be bad? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RaSTuS Posted August 6, 2011 Share Posted August 6, 2011 Could the nut be bad? I'm not sure what you mean Brandon, if it's still the original nut, then it's cheap plastic crap, but if the string/fret gaps are similar to what I mentioned in my previous post under "To check Nut height", then it's at least been installed properly. BTW, the bridge can't really be adjusted by measuring it's height, even two identical model guitars will have a variance, the only way to set the height correctly is by using a method similar to what I described above. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Casino4Life Posted August 6, 2011 Author Share Posted August 6, 2011 What I meant by the nut being bad is that could it be cut wrong, to cause more buzzing? I have heard that if the nut and bridge are not on the same page, bad buzzing can happen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RaSTuS Posted August 6, 2011 Share Posted August 6, 2011 What I meant by the nut being bad is that could it be cut wrong, to cause more buzzing? I have heard that if the nut and bridge are not on the same page, bad buzzing can happen if the string/fret gaps are similar to what I mentioned in my previous post under "To check Nut height", then it's at least been installed properly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Casino4Life Posted August 6, 2011 Author Share Posted August 6, 2011 correct, everything is good to go now. Sorry I am not much of a technical guitar person, but would like to learn more Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RaSTuS Posted August 6, 2011 Share Posted August 6, 2011 correct, everything is good to go now. Sorry I am not much of a technical guitar person, but would like to learn more Great news mate, I'm glad you got it sorted. EDIT: Much of my knowledge has come from this forum or links posted here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Casino4Life Posted August 6, 2011 Author Share Posted August 6, 2011 yes I have learned quite a bit from the guys on here, great group! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
guitar dog Posted August 6, 2011 Share Posted August 6, 2011 All, This post has been very helpful for me. I just put the 1067 on my Casino, easy swap and was simple to set up. Thanks. Bill Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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