bobouz Posted January 19, 2012 Share Posted January 19, 2012 Having just taken delivery of a royal tan '61 Casino reissue, I went to do some tinkering & discovered that the truss rod adjustment is backwards from the norm: counterclockwise to tighten, clockwise to loosen. Is this common to the Chinese production Casinos, or do I have an oddball here? This is my first made-in-China guitar, so I'm a bit curious. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitmore Willy Posted January 19, 2012 Share Posted January 19, 2012 Bobouz, Can't speak first hand about the Casino......(Congrats on the new guitar, by the way) I have two Chinese Epis. I have worked on a few others. All the Epiphones that I have done adjustments on were (As I am looking from the top of the guitar...down the neck) Clockwise to tighten for less relief. Counter-clockwise to loosen for more relief. Willy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobouz Posted January 20, 2012 Author Share Posted January 20, 2012 Bobouz, Can't speak first hand about the Casino......(Congrats on the new guitar, by the way) I have two Chinese Epis. I have worked on a few others. All the Epiphones that I have done adjustments on were (As I am looking from the top of the guitar...down the neck) Clockwise to tighten for less relief. Counter-clockwise to loosen for more relief. Willy Willy - Thanks for the info (and the congrats!). Clockwise for less relief is how all my other guitars operate, but this one's definitely set up the opposite way. In the end, it did adjust properly & there are no issues to resolve. In fact, the workmanship is quite good on this particular model. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
charlie brown Posted January 20, 2012 Share Posted January 20, 2012 Some have said, that the Chinese Epi's, have "dual action" truss rods. ??? If so, it should work, either direction, after a point. CB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RaSTuS Posted January 20, 2012 Share Posted January 20, 2012 Some have said, that the Chinese Epi's, have "dual action" truss rods. ??? That's what I thought, but I've run into problems trying to convince anyone else of this, damn even my $150 el cheapo Chinese guitars have them. I just leave Epi truss-rod questions alone now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
verynicebloke Posted March 30, 2012 Share Posted March 30, 2012 Old post but maybe of interest. Reply from Gibon on royal tan '61 Casino reissue: Thank you for your interest in Gibson guitars. I received the confirmation from our technicians about dual action on the truss rod. They say you can try to adjust it turning on both directions. Hope this helps. Kind regards, Marcelo Pineda Customer Service I presume this means it is dual action. Controversy over? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobouz Posted March 30, 2012 Author Share Posted March 30, 2012 I presume this means it is dual action. Controversy over? Thanks for sharing this info. I will say that on mine, adjusting clockwise only seemed to loosen tension, while counterclockwise did indeed tighten and reduce neck relief. Of course this is the opposite of most truss rods, but after many weeks, the relief setting has remained stable. If the truss rod is indeed as suggested, perhaps continuing to turn further in a clockwise direction would have eventually led to a tightening stage, but to the extent of the adjustment I made, this did not appear to be the case. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
verynicebloke Posted March 30, 2012 Share Posted March 30, 2012 Thanks for sharing this info. I will say that on mine, adjusting clockwise only seemed to loosen tension, while counterclockwise did indeed tighten and reduce neck relief. Of course this is the opposite of most truss rods, but after many weeks, the relief setting has remained stable. If the truss rod is indeed as suggested, perhaps continuing to turn further in a clockwise direction would have eventually led to a tightening stage, but to the extent of the adjustment I made, this did not appear to be the case. Hi bobouz actually mine arrived factory tightened anticlockwise to INCREASE neck relief which worried me (rightly tightly etc). Normally continuing anticlockwise against resistance on a single action truss would be possibly stripping the rod and bad bad bad which is why I wanted absolute confirmation. However on a dual action truss anti would increase and clockwise decrease neck relief with a middle no resistance loose null between the two. With 10's the neck on mine is too flat and needs more relief which is why I contacted Gibson. I think how it acts the truss is probably dual action but it's still scary going anticlockwise into resistance and the reply hasn't entirely assuaged my fears. Any absolute confirmation much appreciated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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