Sinner 13 Posted July 3, 2012 Share Posted July 3, 2012 So instead of springing for a strat, I was considering coil tapping the neck pickup on my SG (4 conductor Duncan SH2). I know it wont sound exactly like a strat, but that's cool. Is there a way to wire it up so I can switch top coil on/standard HB mode/ bottom coil on? I love the way it sounds for rockin out, but occasionally I like to get all slow and bluesy, plus I would like to add some versatility because it is a awesome player, and I would prefer not to have to explain to the wife why I need to drop the money for another guitar just for a specific tonality. what would I need for a micro switch?(I despise push/pull pots, I find them highly inconvenient) And I dont mind putting an extra hole in the control cavity. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Riffster Posted July 3, 2012 Share Posted July 3, 2012 It can be done with a switch rather than a push/pull, which is a switch. I am guessing you need a DPDT switch for this application. Maybe Searcy can pitch in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
btoth76 Posted July 3, 2012 Share Posted July 3, 2012 Hello Sinner13! Try the Seymour-Duncan Triple-shots. That's what they do! http://www.seymourduncan.com/products/accessories/triple-shot-mou/ Cheers... Bence Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Searcy Posted July 3, 2012 Share Posted July 3, 2012 You could do it with a on/off/on DPDT mini switch. I don't think there's a lot of point to being able to pick one coil or the other as there won't be that big a tonal difference between the two. A better way to get some interesting single coil type sounds out of your 4 wire humbucker is to use a on/on/on DPDT mini switch and wire it up so that your options are as follows... 1. Series - Links the two coils together in the normal humbucker mode. 2. Single coil - Kills one coil to give a single coil sound 3. Parallel - Links the two coils together in a Fendery way like the "4" and "2" positions on a Strat. This systems give you three very different sounds that are more noticeable to more gain you through at it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sinner 13 Posted July 3, 2012 Author Share Posted July 3, 2012 You could do it with a on/off/on DPDT mini switch. I don't think there's a lot of point to being able to pick one coil or the other as there won't be that big a tonal difference between the two. A better way to get some interesting single coil type sounds out of your 4 wire humbucker is to use a on/on/on DPDT mini switch and wire it up so that your options are as follows... 1. Series - Links the two coils together in the normal humbucker mode. 2. Single coil - Kills one coil to give a single coil sound 3. Parallel - Links the two coils together in a Fendery way like the "4" and "2" positions on a Strat. This systems give you three very different sounds that are more noticeable to more gain you through at it. That is the answer I was looking for i just wasn't sure about how to word the question. Thank you! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Searcy Posted July 3, 2012 Share Posted July 3, 2012 Want me to show you how to wire it up? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sinner 13 Posted July 3, 2012 Author Share Posted July 3, 2012 Want me to show you how to wire it up? Sure... and while we're at it I'll Fly you up to Boston to do the soldering too... Thank you kind sir. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Searcy Posted July 3, 2012 Share Posted July 3, 2012 LOL... Wow, I ain't been to Boston in a few years! I can do a drawing for you. Give me a few days. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sinner 13 Posted July 3, 2012 Author Share Posted July 3, 2012 LOL... Wow, I ain't been to Boston in a few years! I can do a drawing for you. Give me a few days. Dude, you are the man... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FirstMeasure Posted July 3, 2012 Share Posted July 3, 2012 Coil Tapping will get you a single coil tone, but not a Strat tone. "Strat-like" perhaps, but you'll be hard pressed to find that classic "Bell Tone" from anything but a pickup that's been wound to sound like a Strat. My Nighthawk has a coil tap in the bridge pick up, and while it sound's "Tele-like", it's nowhere near a real Tele's bridge pickup. So it depends on how badly you really want that Strat tone. Heck, even SRV's Hamiltone doesn't get the tone his Strats get. All that said, I Love the sound of my Coiltapped Nighthawk and the versatility is incredible. You won't regret coil tapping. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sinner 13 Posted July 3, 2012 Author Share Posted July 3, 2012 Coil Tapping will get you a single coil tone, but not a Strat tone. "Strat-like" perhaps, but you'll be hard pressed to find that classic "Bell Tone" from anything but a pickup that's been wound to sound like a Strat. My Nighthawk has a coil tap in the bridge pick up, and while it sound's "Tele-like", it's nowhere near a real Tele's bridge pickup. So it depends on how badly you really want that Strat tone. Heck, even SRV's Hamiltone doesn't get the tone his Strats get. All that said, I Love the sound of my Coiltapped Nighthawk and the versatility is incredible. You won't regret coil tapping. I understand that, and the way I am going I will probably do both pickups, series/single/parallel. Now I am going to have to stuff it all in an SG control cavity. DOH! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Sinner 13 Posted July 3, 2012 Author Share Posted July 3, 2012 Cheers! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Searcy Posted July 3, 2012 Share Posted July 3, 2012 I understand that, and the way I am going I will probably do both pickups, series/single/parallel. Now I am going to have to stuff it all in an SG control cavity. DOH! Wait a second. If we're gonna do both pickups we'll run into some phasing issues. I'll draw that out too so you can see how the neck and bridge switched will have to be wired a bit different. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sinner 13 Posted July 3, 2012 Author Share Posted July 3, 2012 Wait a second. If we're gonna do both pickups we'll run into some phasing issues. I'll draw that out too so you can see how the neck and bridge switched will have to be wired a bit different. Okey Dokey.. I still have to go buy the switches and wire, so no rush. I Just want the SG to be as flexible as possible, as I won't be buying and substantial amounts of gear for a while, not that I really need any. I have some other things in life at the moment that are top of the list. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Searcy Posted July 4, 2012 Share Posted July 4, 2012 I hear ya . I'm currently trying to do all the little projects I've been wanting to do for a while. Thus the Kalamazoo amp rebuild and the StetsBar install and a few other mods on my SG. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sinner 13 Posted July 4, 2012 Author Share Posted July 4, 2012 I hear ya . I'm currently trying to do all the little projects I've been wanting to do for a while. Thus the Kalamazoo amp rebuild and the StetsBar install and a few other mods on my SG. Yeah I am still scratching my head as too how I am gonna fit it all in there..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Searcy Posted July 5, 2012 Share Posted July 5, 2012 It is tight inside an SG. But I think there's room for two mini switches. Or you can go with the more stealthy idea mentioned before by Btoth76. Although I'm not a big fan of mounting rings on an SG it is a cool idea. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sinner 13 Posted July 5, 2012 Author Share Posted July 5, 2012 It is tight inside an SG. But I think there's room for two mini switches. Or you can go with the more stealthy idea mentioned before. Although I'm not a big fan of mounting rings on an SG. The Mounting rings A.suck, tried a guitar with em', to tiny to switch up on the fly. B. my SG is Pick guard mount. I got full size Orange drops in there too. So space is a premium.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Searcy Posted July 5, 2012 Share Posted July 5, 2012 I'm sure we can figure something out. Gotta picture or the victim? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sinner 13 Posted July 5, 2012 Author Share Posted July 5, 2012 I'm sure we can figure something out. Gotta picture or the victim? Same as you posted basically, except I got full size caps, I have a spare set of em' in the parts box. I was thinking if Rotate the pots so they lugs face each other the switches will fit and I'll just run longer legs on the caps. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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