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Hello. I am thinking of getting an Eiphone dot (cherry red). I just saw it and was like [drool]. Anyway I want to change the pickups for a cool, harsh, early Kinks sound. What pickups are good for that? Im also a fan of the Who, Chuck Berry, Foo Fighters, and the list goes on. Good idea? What pickups? Thanks sooo much! [smile]

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Love the Kinks [thumbup]

 

Good suggestions all...

 

Personally I would go for the Casino...a different and complementary guitar to the Dot

 

Another good quality clone is the Peerless Songbird

 

As far as I know the Germany based Thomann deliver to any European country

 

Good Luck [biggrin]

 

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Dave Davies on their early sound:

 

I plugged the Elpico loudspeaker's output leads into the input of the AC 30, in effect using the smaller amp as kind of a pre-amp. It sounded great, but I wasn't satisfied. The crowning glory of my simple yet effective experiment was to slash the speaker cone of the Elpico with a razor blade so that the material, although now shredded, still remained intact with the outer side of the cone. As it vibrated it produced a distorted and jagged roar. In fact, the original set-up was so crude that the main amp's hum was almost as loud as the sound I had created. A sound was born, but I didn't know it at the time. Immediately I started using my set-up in live shows that I performed with Ray and our band, in the time leading up to the creation of the Kinks. Ironically, it was that sound, which we used on 'You Really Got Me,' that got the Kinks our first hit.

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For 60s Kinks/Who you need P90s/P94s or aftermarket copies of same. I wouldn't get a Casino though because of feedback issues. A Dot with P94s or equivalent would be better behaved.

 

Who wants to be better behaved?... :blink:

 

V(sentence extended for bad behaviour)

 

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Well, I had a badly behaved Sorrento (same as Casino but single-cut). The Sorrento was great for bedroom playing, but if I played a small pub venue where I had to stand near my amp, whenever I kicked a gain boost in to do a solo I got horrible feedback. I was mainly a lead player at the time, so I got rid.

 

If it had been a Dot, with a centre block instead of fully hollow, it probably would have been fine. I know folks like McCartney play a Casino live without problems, but I think he generally plays bigger venues than me, and stands further away from his amp. If I mantained that distance I'd have been in the car park of most of the places I played.

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Hi, and thanks alot y`all [thumbup] ! I dont know what to get, but I am leaning a little bit toward a Dot with pickups, cus its alot less trouble to get. But I might save up a bit, or wait for my birthday, and hope for a Casino. We just found a new (old) Kinks album I didnt know we had by the way [biggrin]

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I have 2 Dots, one from 2002 made in Korea is completely stock. The other, made in China, has Gibson 490's in it. They are both really fine guitars, just slightly different-I would not say one is "better" than the other, they are just a bit different. The stock Epi pups are just fine, and have a very smooth sound, great for blues or jazz, but they also sound good for older rock & roll. If you take a little time to adjust the pups-change the height and adjust the pole pieces-you can get a lot of variations in the tone without the PITA of changing the pups in a hollowbody guitar.

 

The Dot with Gibson pups came to me that way. It is more overdriven sounding, not as smooth as the Epi pups*...more of an Alvin Lee kind of sound rather than a real '60's sound...but each has its uses and they are so inexpensive you can afford 2 of them. The major change I recommend is buying a hard case. They are great playing guitars, and deserve solid protection.

Try adjusting them before replacing them.

 

* This is how MINE sounds to me...I have set up the guitars and pups on both guitars to sound the way I like them.

 

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Here's the Stones from 1964, with some pics of Keith playing a nice old Epi Casino, which he used pretty often in those days...

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZRTZd8g7l-Q&feature=related

 

 

this is one of my favorite songs from that album.

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I have 2 Dots, one from 2002 made in Korea is completely stock. The other, made in China, has Gibson 490's in it. They are both really fine guitars, just slightly different-I would not say one is "better" than the other, they are just a bit different. The stock Epi pups are just fine, and have a very smooth sound, great for blues or jazz, but they also sound good for older rock & roll. If you take a little time to adjust the pups-change the height and adjust the pole pieces-you can get a lot of variations in the tone without the PITA of changing the pups in a hollowbody guitar.

 

The Dot with Gibson pups came to me that way. It is more overdriven sounding, not as smooth as the Epi pups*...more of an Alvin Lee kind of sound rather than a real '60's sound...but each has its uses and they are so inexpensive you can afford 2 of them. The major change I recommend is buying a hard case. They are great playing guitars, and deserve solid protection.

Try adjusting them before replacing them.

 

 

 

I have a 2001 MiK Dot with stock PU's. Is there a link showing pickup adjustment and heights?

 

thanks

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I have a 2001 MiK Dot with stock PU's. Is there a link showing pickup adjustment and heights?

 

thanks

 

Get a screwdriver and plug the guitar into your amp, set up to give you a good sound. Raise the screws on the bridge pup till you notice a change in the sound, not just the volume. Play with it till you get the sound YOU LIKE. You will be surprised how much difference this makes. Generally raising the pups makes them more gritty and lowering them makes them smoother. When you get the bridge pup sounding good TO YOU, balance the sound of the neck pup to the bridge pup so there is no big volume difference at the same volume setting (Best to adjust them with the vol all ON and the tone all ON.)

Remember to try the individual pups at various ton settings, too...you can get a good Clapton sound with the bridge tone down around 4 or 3...

 

It's trial and error, and up to you to pick the good area...and you can also adjust each pole piece individually to really get it exactly right. Take the time and you will learn a lot about your guitar, too...and it costs nothing to do this.

 

 

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