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#1 User is offline   Dave1963 

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Posted 10 February 2018 - 06:53 AM

Hi everyone.

I have been getting used to my rather stunning ES335 '63 and really enjoying it. However, one slight niggle.....The neck keeps feeling rather gritty and there is a deposit of some sort. My hands are clean and not particularly sweaty. I went over the neck with some 000 wire wool and then a dry microfibre, which polished it up beautifully, but I am still getting this grittiness occasionally, which does clean off really quickly with a dry cloth. It this a trait of a Nitro finish? My HW1 Tele has a nitro neck, but that is a matte finish, which has polished up to a gorgeous gloss over time and use and it doesn't have this gritty feel to it. Any ideas?
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Posted 10 February 2018 - 07:27 AM

Is there any chance that anyone used mineral oil on the fretboard?
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Posted 10 February 2018 - 07:39 AM

Freshly painted necks can take quite a while to fully cure and lose that sticky feeling.
I had my Lucille redone and it was a good six months, maybe a year for it to feel normal.
I just aired it out a lot and wiped it down with an old t-shirt after playing.
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Posted 10 February 2018 - 07:55 AM

Nitro can take a while to fully cure and harden up. Try some talc powder on you hand/neck before playing and see if that helps. I keep a small bottle of baby powder in my case/bag.
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Posted 10 February 2018 - 08:32 AM

Thanks guys, much appreciated! A cloth has been added to the case.....
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Posted 10 February 2018 - 08:33 AM

View Postksdaddy, on 10 February 2018 - 07:27 AM, said:

Is there any chance that anyone used mineral oil on the fretboard?


I put a tiddy bit of lemon oil on it when I changed strings, but nothing else. I bought the guitar new, so I would have hoped the shop haven't done anything with it.
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Posted 10 February 2018 - 09:54 AM

Most stuff labeled lemon oil is actually lemon scented mineral oil. I've found any mineral oil leaves a gritty residue.
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Posted 10 February 2018 - 02:22 PM

View Postksdaddy, on 10 February 2018 - 09:54 AM, said:

Most stuff labeled lemon oil is actually lemon scented mineral oil. I've found any mineral oil leaves a gritty residue.


The grittiness is on the neck and not the fretboard. The fretboard is brilliant....
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Posted 10 February 2018 - 03:14 PM

I had the same thing happen with my '06 es335DD. When it was new, I would get a sticky residue on the back of the neck whenever I played it.
It took 18 months to 2 years before the finish hardened up fully, at which point it developed quite a lot of lacquer checking - but it hasn't got any worse over the last 10 years.
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Posted 10 February 2018 - 03:28 PM

View Postpitfall, on 10 February 2018 - 03:14 PM, said:

I had the same thing happen with my '06 es335DD. When it was new, I would get a sticky residue on the back of the neck whenever I played it.
It took 18 months to 2 years before the finish hardened up fully, at which point it developed quite a lot of lacquer checking - but it hasn't got any worse over the last 10 years.


Thanks Pitfall. I guess I just have to get used to it for a bit....
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Posted 11 February 2018 - 12:29 PM

Sometimes it can also be caused from polish on the back of the head stock.
My Martin developed that sticky feel recently so I wiped it down with a damp washrag and buffed it smooth and all is good.

If it's just new nitro the only cure is wiping it down, airing it out and lots of time.
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Posted 11 February 2018 - 02:50 PM

Not to worry, sometime the nitro just takes a while to cure. I had the same issue on a 356 I bought new last June and it lasted about 3 months or so. Gibson literature states that they put "at least" eight coats of nitrocellulose lacquer and it may take some time for it to fully harden and feel smooth.

I always wipe the back of the neck off after playing before it goes back in the case and the neck is very smooth and fast now. Just play it a LOT, your hand moving up and down the neck will help it too [smile]
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Posted 12 February 2018 - 04:32 AM

View PostTwang Gang, on 11 February 2018 - 02:50 PM, said:

........Just play it a LOT, your hand moving up and down the neck will help it too [smile]


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Posted 12 February 2018 - 08:10 AM

nitro can be a bit of a nuisance till it 100% cures keep a clean rag handy, and just keep wiping it down until you don't notice any more.
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Posted 12 February 2018 - 09:51 AM

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