ParlourMan

True enough, but many guitar forums show the same thing, endless GAS, endless pursuit of the unattainable, a bunch of 'thrill of the chase' merchants if we stand back and look at it from a different perspective. But nearly all forums have the same undercurrent, the need to improve, it's much easier to improve the gear list, the accessories, the elegance and calibre of the chat you can take part in.. the not so easy part is improving guitar skills. By example, a thread suggesting that sneezing in your guitar will help to open it up if you're a loud sneezer *, will attract a ridiculous amount of views and end in pages and pages of discussion... a thread containing some musical performance will get 50-60 views and a couple of trophy comments. A thread debating "which is the most overpriced brand" can generate 10 pages, a thread of similar timing talking about performance, technique and theory will yield perhaps 100 views and a token comment. * The ridiculous sounding threads above are actually real and very active threads on another popular guitar forum. I'm not knocking it, I'm as amused by it and as inclined to offer a light-hearted tuppence-worth as the next man. Nonetheless it is easy to begin to support the notion that many would rather talk about the intricate details associated with doing it, rather than actually doing it.

I'm with ye's boys... Although I do firmly subscribe to the following train of thought: What can I buy to make my guitar sound better? ...some guitar lessons!

Another wee bit of fun from last night. Cheesy overdose :D Original source was quite clipped so it's compressed quite badly to get a manageable volume level. Just the chords really as it was the first attempt and last song of the night. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NR8M4p8YS00&

A wee bit of fun from rehearsals while trying a new song out last night, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DKIvAAtMe1c&f None of us really know the song that well yet, so will have to develop it a bit over the next week or two....

haw haw, touché Don't knock it, I got a chicken supper and two bags of chips thrown in

Another wee bit of fun from the end of the night at rehearsals, as usual accompanied by cheesy iMovie effects. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AXK55DzMmjs Sounds a bit funky on this one, had to compress it down a lot as it was loud and there was some clipping.

A wee bit of fun from the rehearsal room the other night, end of the night try out new songs time..... I reckon a wee bit of steadying and tightening up, plus expanding the second guitar part to something more like the original and it should be OK. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Begav4lrCk0&feature=g-all-u

I will try to film some of this stuff, a real noodle baker..... I'm becoming a fan.

We've a fella who comes to the open mic nights and does Hungarian throat whistling, are you familiar? It's quite freaky the first time....

Very folky vocals, Mojo. I liked that, good respect of the songs rhythm in the pickier, fiddlier parts. Nifty.

....however Gibson own the rights to the name J-45, so can and will do with it as they see fit...... Aren't we always saying the heritage and history of Gibson follows no logical path? Come to think of it, I think that very excuse was used in the great laminate bridges debate by Hogeye himself.

I sort of agree, I think Koa is often too busy looks-wise for a guitar, I would say that the J-200 style above is about the best I've seen....

I did have an eye out, but no see, no touch I'm afraid.... I'd love to get my grubby paws on one though, on paper I like this model.

Traditions and 'norms' aside, I can't understand why more rhythm players wouldn't be interested in a 12-fret dred, should be pretty perfect for their needs really.... granted, Jackson Browne is not the 'name' that will make these fly off the shelves in droves, most folk I know have never heard of him so I would be inclined to agree this will appeal to fans more than anything. That aside I'd be more than happy to have this model of guitar minus the sig, It's not what I would gig with as I play the lead parts in a 2 man setup, but it's something I would play a lot at home. My guess is the infrequency of these on the market would keep these above the 60% threshold though and I certainly wouldn't get in to paying 75-80% for a used guitar, certainly not one in those asking prices. 60-65% is about as high as I would go on one of these. Investment-wise it's a smaller market, not always the best idea from a sellers perspective. It's a cool guitar, but I think there has to be a gateway in to this model which is a bit more affordable for players keen to move to a 12-fret guitar. The other 12-fretters available are totally different animals.

I'd love to have one of those Model A's. Definitely my cup of Tea.....

I'd say it's as simple as sales Vs costs. Logistically it's easier to deal with fewer 'big boy' retailers from a CRM and distribution perspective. Market forces, margins and consumer price tolerance are king!

Why not return the guitar before any work was done?

My Keb Mo model was slightly duller out of the case on the first day, but I'd bought a "small-box" guitar, even the name was 'Bluesmaster' and the sound suggested it was a 'blues' guitar.... a few months down the line and my blues box is now a general guitar (albeit a 12-fretter) and sounds great for many styles. I do believe some of these guitars have a waking-up period. While the model EA played mightn't have 'struck a chord' with him (apologies, I should be ashamed of saying that ;) ) my bet is that tight rubbery bottom end would make a nice guitar to record with. The compression and thud in its lower end at the minute would make it fairly easy to record with. While I might prefer to pick another one for myself if they had the choice of a few and I would see if any were already awake, I'm not convinced the guitar is dead. I have had masterbuilt strings that are a lot more muted in the bass myself and thought something was off for the first couple of days... My best guess is a few people playing it in the coming weeks that it's in the shop and a string-change or two and the guitar will sing.

Maybe one for the Tonerite users.

OK, so I was wildly wrong, then.... ;) Cheers Bob, makes sense.

Surely it would be completion date, or final finishing date, as in when the guitar is considered as 'finished' / 'ready to be shipped as part of an order' etc... the facility isn';t the biggest, so I can't seem them having a whole backlog of parts laying about for long periods.

Preach it, brother! ;)