BluesKing777
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Hmm, I meant it would be interesting to compare this 1960 model with a 'full production' model from say, 1962 like Tom's perhaps.....
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6 hours ago, zombywoof said:
I do not think Gibson started offering B45-12s , Doves and HBs with a stock natural top until 1963. Prior to that you could get them but it would have been a Custom Dept. order. One of the problems is there are so few 1960 HBs out there it is tough to draw any conclusions about specs.
It would be interesting to compare the insides with a later model - I assume they would be fine tuning the specs as they go along....it would be a shame to drop all that cash to find out it is the model that rattles and buzzes.
I can say that it won’t be me going there. With Xmas coming up, getting a car park near the shop would be a matter of real lotto type luck, let me tell you. It is woeful normally!
They have a 2017 Bird...if it is still there after Xmas, I will hold them both up to the light, ha ha! Maybe.
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Thanks Nick!
Lunchtime here!
I better go play my cherry burst Dove...
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11 hours ago, j45nick said:
Pending the serial number, I wonder if that isn't a very early 'bird, before all the characteristics were finalized. It does appear to have an orange label, which may hold the key to answering many of our questions.
I phoned the shop for serial number and I was told:
S/N: A35142
So no "R"....hmmm.
With a closer look at the headstock, it probably says Mel.......😵
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Yes, everything here is 3x the price of late......
The owner probably said he wants $10K (Aus) when consigning it.....and try to cover the 20-22% consign fee.....$12,500 odd.
So the bucks are for the rarity of a 1960, the Gibson Hummingbird 60s thing, the shop fees......
I can only imagine it will sit for sale until someone gets a small inheritance or small lotto win....enough for a 1960 Bird!
The sensible and canny Aust guitar shopper would run screaming too at that price, don’t worry about that - and screech to a halt as they notice the rather unusual listing - used sapele/sitka Maton ECW80c ‘Heritage’ with Maton AP5-Pro pickup system listed for $1500! You know, a mahogany style dread with sitka top, cutaway and pickup, possibly ready to gig tonight.....for a tenth of the Bird price. But you know, the friends ask what new guitar you bought and you spill the name of the 60s Bird or a .....Maton ECW80c Heritage.......😶
Or buy the 2005 Dove, with writing on it..... ha ha ha......😎
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Yes - too skinny above for my style but I was wondering about the 'look'.
There is no room at my place for another guitar until I get the basement extended out to the fence line!😲
That said, the Bird is certainly a 'one off' looker. I will call them tomorrow to see if they know the serial number - they should as they vet every guitar to see if it has been stolen.
And I will try not to look at it anymore - same price could buy 2 or 3 new Gibsons or possibly the whole Maton collection!
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33 minutes ago, j45nick said:
It's hard to know what color that burst might have been originally, since so much of the red dye used in that timeframe was unstable. It may have had a lot more red in it than it currently shows.
1960 would have been a first-year 'bird. It's also possible they hadn't settle on a burst color at that point.
Were the back and sides red, or conventional walnut brown?
Did you happen to get the serial number on it?
No and no, Nick. I think I remember being disappointed at $12500 worth of brown back, instead of cherry.
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Usually we see cherry burst or natural, why I asked.....
I played it while waiting for the owner to get back about my offer on my 2005 Dove...we never learn, do we? I didn't really get a good play - I was standing near the phones/cash register and said something like 'Hee Haw...i better not drop it, eh?' and gave it back to him.
Maybe the darker burst is a forerunner of the new Bird dark burst J45 burst thing:
https://www.acousticcentre.com.au/collections/gibson/products/gibson-hummingbird-tobacco-sunburst
or?
https://www.gibson.com/Guitar/ACCVID935/125th-Anniversary-Hummingbird
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What do you think?
Gibson - Hummingbird
Made in Kalamazoo USA1960 in the first year of production. Incredible mellow sound. Incredible low action. A very smooth instrument. Excellent condition for age. Some cosmetic wear from use but no damage. Original adjustable ceramic saddle. Non destructive Schatten pickup installed. Gold Gibson Kluson tuners. w/ hard case
$12,500.00
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2 hours ago, rbpicker said:
Absolutely loved it, Sal. Both the guitar and the vocals. So good to see you posting tunes again.
the guitar sounds huge and so sweet. Great catch!
good luck with the smokes. I did it 35 years ago and am glad every day of my life...I thought of it as quitting just one cigarette at a time. When the urge hit I said “I’ll just not smoke this one”...pretty soon all was calm.
best to you and yours, friend.
Roger
Early days for Sal after only a week on the razors!
I don’t know about your area but in southern Australia, they have very peculiar ideas and laws about smoking now! I am still off them after many years now and I was at a little supermarket that people stop at on the way from the train station......and the 2 women ahead of me were buying fags. So, the shop has to hide them so nobody can see a smoke packet, they are under the counter somewhere where we can’t see them open the drawer, the packets are plain cardboard with no brand but pictures of gangrene feet, the name Benson and Hedges in very small plain type down the bottom of the pack.........and here is what made my ears turn inside out while watching: one woman wanted a pack of 30s B&H and the shop assistant said: “That will be $45, thanks”.
So the poor must be smoking banana skins again!
Anyway, I won’t give advice, just say that for me, none of the quit stuff worked and the nico patches made me quite sick, the quack meds gave me nightmares.....so I just....stopped...cold turkey...have NOT had one since. I ate some of that weird sugarless licorice but that can send your blood pressure to the moon.....I generally yelled at everyone I know.....some concluded I was mad and some haven’t spoken to me ever again....
With the extra cash in my pockets, I started the Guitar Fund with the idea of misdirecting my thoughts to the things that I like and encourage myself to keep going. But I didn’t know if I would keep at it and get all...these...guitars....... A planner type person may have said something like: “I will not smoke at all and the money saved will in 2 years time buy me a 42 J45 Banner in mint con ..and a 43 LG2 Banner in mint con.”
So if you want plans for a very large extension of the basement and room above.........
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50 minutes ago, Salfromchatham said:
Ha BK. U r right. I sound like Henley in please come home for Christmas 😳😳😳
Please don’t let me put you off, it sounds great. Keep on it - you are on to something there!
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Cool Sal!
Nice and simple, sounds good and possibly more like The Eagles than RJ (and where is the bottleneck?)😎.....yep, liked it but listened to you and not your new guitar, sorry.
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Skinny anti fingerpicker stuff, Nick!
Play before you buy, wow. (Me).
So how did we arrive at the current 1.725” nut? Why not 1 3/4”? What was the thinking from presumably Ren and mates?
I can fingerpick a 1.725 fairly cleanly and carefully but only for ....The Sound, if you know what I mean. But not after playing my ‘perfect, custom ordered and built’ Cargill neck, a real breeze with just the right amount of real estate. I gave him the specs of an OM neck I like but this one is more ‘rounded’. I could get him to make me a Dove or J45 shape body with a fat neck...but it won’t sound like a Gibson - it will sound like a Cargill!
Getting back to the Dove - my recently bought 2005 Dove sounds nothing like the one on the video above! But I bought it after playing it fingerstyle and it is bright and clear, not too bassy but ‘full’ and with a fairly spacious bound neck.....
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Thanks for the replies Red, Murph and HH!
This was the 3rd recording and guitar I made - the first one with my Dove had the Anthem control rattling all the way through, must be coming loose - will investigate later. So I grabbed the OM Authentic and that was sounding great until I made a huge mistake and had run out of time - had to go out to pickup the Boss and go shopping...
So yesterday I grabbed the old L-0 at lunchtime, had a warmup, put a capo on 3 and away we went.....
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I learned a few Xmas tunes to get in the spirit....
Here 's one I played on the old 1937 Gibson L-0 (halfway through I thought Santa was coming down the chimney but it was in fact the little dog going out the doggy door.....):
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1 hour ago, Tman said:
That was fabulous
Thanks TMan!
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I was looking at the prices for these old Gibson Ls on Reverb.com and they seem to have crept up a lot of late. Which also means there are more for sale! (Sell! Says crazed owner when he sees the Reverb.com value...Sell!).
Mine wasn’t much to buy but it was only barely playable and the only one here for sale....still haven’t seen another. Getting it up to speed cost a lot - it was sort of like taking your old car in for a tune up and getting it back with a very large bill and the only thing left original is the body! But I could buy 3 or 4 fixer uppers and get them done for the current prices PLUS travel, customs, tax, CITES etc, etc.
Would I do it again?
Don’t know.😎😎😎
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2 hours ago, FemmeParallell said:
so did the coffee bags helped?? would it help on a vintage LP? have 2 that smell funky: one like cigars, and the other one like a chemical or cleaner :S
I really like the whiff of expresso when I open the case and while I am playing. But I have 2 bags in the soundhole, 2 in the case headstock.......you may have trouble getting a bag in the soundhole of your LPs 😎😎😎, but you could put a few in the case.
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Thanks for all the replies!
Yes, the good and the bad of vintage guitars - they sound great, play bad and smell woeful..... Jedzep had a thread about smelly guitars a while back - his was embedded with deodorant from a previous owner, but somebody mentioned putting a couple of coffee bags in the soundhole. I would not have known you could even get coffee bags (like tea bags) but a friend was over and brought his own decaf coffee bags. So I picked up a box of Robert Timms Expresso coffee bags and any smellies got a bag in the soundhole and one in the headstock area of the case. The old L-0 had that 'old ciggies that now smelled like dogpoop' problem, so a couple of bags went in and when I picked it up again the other day, some more went in!
Now, the good of vintage guitars - the tone! For example, if you listen in nice headphones to my track, you can hear the bass lines doing their own thing and the treble lines too...you could never say this guitar was 'boxy' like some accuse them of being, and you could never say this guitar is 'abrasive' in any way, but dig in near the bridge and lookout - nails on a blackboard! 80 year old wood rules, Nick! (Some enabling going on😎)..... I wonder if a Legend could do this?
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8 hours ago, jedzep said:
I'd hire you to be my Thanksgiving supper soundtrack. Would you mind sitting off to the side if I set you up with all manor of food and intoxicants?
Oh, and could you give a private guitar lesson after dessert?
You have the touch. Nice! Punchy and lighthearted!Thanks JZ!
I don’t play while people make food eating noises anymore - no respect!🥶
I remember playing at a big outdoor party and the whole time they had something cooking in a ground pit but by the time we finished playing and went for a look, there was nothing but bones. You know, no mention of ‘Why don’t you guys have a break and tuck into some barbecue?’ So the policy is to eat first!
Have a nice turkey, JZ.
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8 hours ago, j45nick said:
I love it, BK. But of course, I love that guitar.
Thanks Nick!
Why don’t you find yourself a nice 30s L-00? (You can get one for about half of what I can!).
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I was playing this on the old 37 Gibson L-0 and pressed record....I called it "Coffee for Two" because I have put Rob Timms expresso coffee bags in the case and guitar to give it a nicer smell...and I noticed that after I put the bag in today, I already had one in it...so it smells like double expresso at the coffee shop in the morning....
It always feels like I should yell out "Eat my dust!" when I play this guitar!
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Sorry - tech problem!😨
Oh well, the cat got out of the bag without me asking it....
A little version I recorded of Robert Jonhson's "Phono Blues" to show the 'acoustic resonance' button de-quacker on my Boss VE8 - ran my 1959 Gibson LG3 with Fishman undersaddle plain and passive piezo pickup, added 1/4 turn of the resonance and my vocal in a Shure SM58...
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Hmm...Kidblast, I think it was...ripped his Anthem out because the soundhole control section rattled and buzzed... thought I had better mention it.
Now I was thinking of getting the full Anthem put in my 2007 Gibson Blues King L-00. It came with the Element, pretty horrible, so I was going to treat it to an Anthem for all these happy years of acoustic service and guinea piggedness with all kinds of soundhole pickups. BUT, I was playing (and singing) through my Boss VE8 yesterday I tried the dreaded Element in the BK hooked direct to the VE8 to try the "Acoustic Resonance" knob. And just a mere 1/4 turn of the knob gets rid of a fair slice of the piezo quack. Add some Vokes with a SM58 and some spill, well I have to say I could maybe run with it. It is not as convincing as an Aura or a Tonedexter, but you know, If I was using the rest of the stuff on the Boss VE8, well...vocal, reverbs, delay, harmony, loop, - it really is a great little box. I only use a splash of reverb and the occasional harmony for a chorus part for vokes, and usually not one thing for guitars - just plug in a sorted pickup.
Here is the blurb:
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With the VE-8’s dedicated guitar channel, your acoustic axe will sound just as great as your vocals. Acoustic Resonance magically restores your natural guitar sound, eliminating the sterile piezo “quack” that plagues typical undersaddle pickups used in plugged-in acoustics. Reverb and chorus are on hand too, plus cool BOSS effects like Octave, Mod Delay, and more. There’s a built-in tuner as well, a must-have tool for stage performing. And with the phase switch and notch filter, you have fingertip access for killing any feedback issues the instant they arise.
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Is this 1960 Bird f/s real?
in Gibson Acoustic
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Only way we are ever going to know the difference between a production model 62, for example, and the 1960 above would be for someone like Tom to buy it........
Tom? Anyone?
Worthless me buying it - nothing to compare it to.😢
PS....Stones version of RJ’s “Love In Vain” had electric guitars..... I don’t think Keef was serious about acoustics until he met Gram on tour much later...
P.S.S.........Found another 1960 on Reverb.com - cherry burst though - if I have learned anything, it is that it has the same mono engraved guard...
https://reverb.com/item/27823297-gibson-vintage-1960-1st-year-production-hummingbird-1960-cherry-sunburst
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