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    Double Albums

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    I'm  pretty sure Stevie's "Songs In The Key Of Life" wasn't released as a "greatest hits" compilation.

    Unless you're implying that it eventually wound up looking like one.  [wink]

    And the German Decca release of John Mayall's "Looking Back" was a double LP.  The U. S. and UK releases were one disc only.

    Whitefang

    What Do You Think?

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    4 minutes ago, Sgt. Pepper said:

    Also don't forget that Jimi being a lefty played a right handed Strat, where the strings were affected by the pickup closest to the bridge differently than a righty's would, he also used a mostly new Post-CBS Strats, 10 Marshall Stacks, that Fuzz Face, and a Dallas Arbiter(I think that was the pedal), and just to be on the safe side a smidge of LSD. Don't forget about the teeth pick, for that enamel tone. His dentist must have loved him.

    [laugh] I remember when a band member of mine tried that teeth playing bit.  Didn't realize everything wasn't properly grounded and all we heard was a loud "POP" accompanied  by a huge blue spark and the sight of him flying back into the drummer's kit like he was kicked by a mule!  \:D/

    As for the lefty thing...  Remember too that the strings would be in reverse order over the pick-ups as well which might have attributed to Jimi's sound. 

    On 6/2/2022 at 9:14 AM, kidblast said:

    more to the point,

    if it WASN'T for guys like Hendrix,  just what exactly would we  be doing today as guitar players?

     

    Probably an evolved amalgam of what was pre Hendrix rock and folk-rock with a still predominant Beatle/Chuck Berry influence. 

    Whitefang

    Double Albums

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    13 hours ago, kidblast said:

    yea  but they already thought I was a wack job cuz I didn't have any stones or bealtes albums!

    lots of sabbath, mahogany rush, johnny winter, deep purple, trower, zepplin and almann bros, steely dan, et al......

    but no stones or beatles

    I was an outcast...  a dreg of society,, "look away children, he's hideous...."

    And how about that excellent 3-sided double LP "Second Winter"?  Remember the fourth "side" was unpressed and unlabeled.  Just smooth vinyl!  

    Let's not overlook "Electric Ladyland" . Both the U.S. release and the "import" with the famed "naked lady" cover.  [wink]

    And of course, the triple LP- WOODSTOCK movie soundtrack release.  Followed a year later by WOODSTOCK II, a double LP which had some songs not in the film by the artists in it and a few songs by a few who weren't in the documentary.

    And too, the forgettable TALES FROM TOPOGRAPHIC OCEANS double LP from Yes.  :rolleyes:

    FREAK OUT by The Mothers Of Invention is probably the earliest double LP I ever owned

    12 hours ago, ghost_of_fl said:

    No filler on this one. 

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    Took me a year after it's release to finally get it.  Due to at the time it came out, I was stereo shopping and every audio store I went to INSISTED on proving how good some system sounded(and often didn't) by tossing this one on the turntable.  By the time I finally did settle on a sound system I was so SICK of "The Wall" that, like I began, it took me a year after it's release to finally settle my stomach and get it.  

    Whitefang

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    Memorial Day

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    On 5/31/2022 at 3:37 PM, kidblast said:

    I never "served" Sarge but I am thankful for all who did

    we are the land of the free, because of the brave.

    Uh-Oh......

    Seems someone else has been getting those coasters from the V.F.W.  [wink]

    Some people I know have been griping(and rightly so IMHO) that lately people have been using Memorial Day to pay "homage" to ALL veterans.  Which of course misses the mark.  We do have a "Veterans Day" after all(Nov. 11) for that.    And sadly, for way too many Americans, Memorial day just means a long weekend off of work and beer and barbecue.  And in Michigan, jamming the freeways with people traveling up North out of some twisted holiday annual obligation.   But one guy I know of, who's down the street from me is the only guy I know who has a tall flagpole on his lot.  And flies "Old Glory" on it throughout the year.  And every Memorial Day since I've moved on this street he has the flag at half mast.  

    My kind of guy!  [cool]

    Whitefang

    What Do You Think?

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    First,

    If he mentioned him I somehow missed it.  But when rattling off his list of famous guitar players from the '70's I didn't hear JOE WALSH mentioned.  [wink]

    But more to the "point"

    I think the Hendrix thing needs to be looked at from the aspect of the hypothesis of Jimi coming along now at the age he busted out back then ('round 25) and after coming of age through the last 15-20 years of what modern music was through that period, and still somehow being an incredible guitar player, would what he'd wind up doing still catch the ears of a generation as he did back in '67?   That's hard to say.  I think he might more catch on with the public radio and college radio listening crowd than mainstream FM radio.  Which is what the man in the little insert probably was trying to say. 

    26 minutes ago, duane v said:

    . If Jimi never existed and he magically showed up today, I think he would show up in a slightly different form to meet the demands of todays music, and would more than likely be huge / popular. But I would bet dollars to donuts most of us here would ***** about the new Jimi Hendrix and consider him all flash..... The "what if" questions about bands of the past and how they would fair today always kinda hurt my brain.

     

    My only disagreement with the "demands of today's music" statement is that when Hendrix DID come at us back in the "day",  the "demands" of what was "today's" music back then were something Jimi didn't  concern himself with.  He NEVER did "meet the demands" of the day's music.  Rather, he entirely changed it's direction and caused a reversal in which music strove to meet HIS "demands".    And in those times, music audiences and labels were still interested in anything considered "radical" (in musical terms)  Hendrix was the right person at the right time.  The music audience was ripe for any change that upset established apple carts.  From music to movies,  clothing and hair-dos, dancing and socializing and politics.  

    Today it's all different.  "Individualism" today seems to be defined by how many people can manage to all be the same. 

    Whitefang

    ELVIS Official Trailer

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    4 minutes ago, Sgt. Pepper said:

    Elvis was caught in a trap, and he couldn't walk out.

    Elvis did lots of stuff that was awful. The movie era had a few good nuggets, and the lounge era did too, but I mostly listen to his Pre-Army stuff and select stuff form the 60's and 70's (mostly live albums). I love me some Suspicious Minds, Walk A Mile In My Shoes, and Never Been To Spain from the 70's. Oh wait Suspicious Minds is from the late 60's.

    And the oft imitated Elvis won me a free lunch at work one day when the song below was on a co-worker's radio(set on the "oldies" station) and another co-worker asked if it was Elvis Presley and the guy said, "Yep".  

    I interceded that he was wrong and the debate led to a bet which I won....

    Years earlier I won a free joint on a bet that George Thorogood's "Move It On Over" was a cover of an old Hank Williams tune from 31 years earlier.   [wink]

    Whitefang

    Exile

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    22 hours ago, Sgt. Pepper said:

    I know your a huge Dylan fan and like Exile, I don't get the Blonde On Blonde worshipers. I never want to hear Rainy Day Woman ever again. I put that album on like Exile and try to like it, but I just don't. I do like Sad Eyed Lady though. I believe I read somewhere that George used that song for his inspiration on Long, Long, Long.

    It's not that I "worship" Blonde On blonde.  But it is a good LP.  Certainly, like most other LPs, not every track is a gem.  While I don't mind "Rainy Day Women",  It's "One Of Us Must Know(Sooner Or Later)" I usually skip past.  And then there's that "4th Time Around" and The Beatle's "Norwegian Wood" thing.  [wink]  Recall?

    "4th Time Around" was commonly speculated to be a response to the Beatles' song "Norwegian Wood" – written by John Lennon and Paul McCartney for the 1965 album Rubber Soul – as the two tracks share a reasonably similar melody, lyrical premise, and 3/4 time signature. "4th Time Around" has been seen as either a playful homage, or a satirical warning to Lennon about co-opting Dylan's well-known songwriting devices. Lennon expressed a range of opinions on this topic in interviews between 1966 and 1980. Initially, he felt it to be a somewhat pointed parody of "Norwegian Wood", due particularly to the final line of "4th Time Around" ("I never asked for your crutch / Now don't ask for mine.") which played into his apparent paranoia about Dylan in 1966–67 because he interpreted it as a warning not to use Dylan's songs as a "crutch" for his own songwriting.[1] Later, however, he changed his opinion on the track to become more favourable when he considered Dylan's effort to be more a playful homage. This shift can be seen when he was asked about his opinion on the track in a 1968 Rolling Stone Magazine interview, in which he stated:

    "I was very paranoid about that. I remember he played it to me when he was in London. He said, what do you think? I said, I don’t like it. I didn’t like it. I was very paranoid. I just didn’t like what I felt I was feeling – I thought it was an out and out skit, you know, but it wasn’t. It was great. I mean he wasn’t playing any tricks on me. I was just going through the bit."[2]

    Whitefang

     

    ELVIS Official Trailer

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    22 hours ago, Sgt. Pepper said:

    Its called selling out and cashing in. Don't forget the one where he  compared the keys on piano to racial harmony, with Mr. Wonder.

    Ack!  Yeah, as a Stevie fan since "Fingertips" (and us being only 14 mos. apart in age)  that sure seemed more "sell-out" than I thought  Stevie was capable of. 

     

    2 hours ago, Murph said:

    I'm not following?

    What are you calling garbage?

    It's different for different people.  I never did like "Band On The Run".  But the song, not the whole album.  But when you consider "Jet" and "Helen Wheels"  are the only tunes on  it that I do like, well....  I already gave a couple of examples.   

    MAD magazine, many years ago, poked fun of popular singer/songwriter of the time Paul Anka by drawing him  writing his songs by sitting on a piano bench and playing the keys of a giant cash register.  Seemed pretty much to resemble Paul in the post Beatle/'70's era.  [cool]   Indicating That Anka, at the time, as well as Paul later, wasn't creating "art" for art's sake, but cashing in on their fame.   Much like Elvis went from being the supposed "King" of rock'n'roll to very quickly becoming the "King" of Vegas lounge acts.   Whereas the TRUE King of rock'n'roll(Chuck Berry) held court  for 62 years until his death in 2017.

    Whitefang

    ELVIS Official Trailer

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    Sure.  I could never figure out how the same guy who  gave us "Penny Lane" , "Venus And Mars" and  "Junior's Farm" can also put us to sleep with "My Love", and "Let 'Em In".  :rolleyes:

    And then that goofball tune with Michael Jackson.

    But it's said Babe Ruth struck out more than he hit home runs.

    Whitefang

    Exile

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    23 hours ago, Sgt. Pepper said:

     I just don't have that much jam, took me to a world of music my parents never knew existed. 

    Depends on how old your parents were when you were born.   If you're their firstborn or an only child they were probably well aware of the Stones by '78 when "Some Girls" was unfortunately  released.  [wink]

    And by then profanity in rock recordings was kind of "old hat" and no big surprise. 

    23 hours ago, Sgt. Pepper said:

    Same with me for The Beatles and Zappa. I don't think every note, chord, lyric and vocal on their albums is pure genius. There are lots of times I would have liked to have been in the studio with them and said "I'm just a fan, and I know this is your album, but that song or part of the song is awful". That last long song on Freak Out! called Return Of The Son Of Monster Magnet is 12 minuets of wasted vinyl, And WTF was Lumpy Gravy, two guys talking about pigs and ponies and fixing up there cars with awful music in the background. I hate the song Hey Jude, its a short song and then 5 minuets of nah nah nah nah nah nah nah. I hope I got the number of nah's right. Any one hear You Know My Name (Look Up The Number), once you did, you will have wished you hadn't. Brian Jones of The Stones is a guest on You Know My Name.

    Sure, "Hey Jude" was kind of tiresome.   Plus, by the late '60's long songs were "all the rage" but true, not all of them worked for me.  For me, the Dylan "freak",  "Sad Eyed Lady Of The Lowlands" is a track on "Blonde On Blonde" I always hit the "stop" button (or the lift lever if playing the vinyl) on.    And by the way (and I couldn't resist...)

    "Monster Magnet" is not a "minuet",  let alone 12 of them.  [wink]  To whit-----

    TOLD you I couldn't resist!  😜

    Whitefang

    Exile

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    Sure.  As big a Dylan freak I claim to be I didn't like EVERY album or tune he put out.  Same with every band I more or less like.  More of the subjective thing.  Your favorite Stones album might be one that somebody else just can't stand(and vice-versa).   There's no real right or wrong here.

    Whitefang

    ELVIS Official Trailer

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    22 hours ago, Sgt. Pepper said:

     

    When I hear My Sweet Lord, I always sing She’s So Fine where it should be in the song. I amuse myself sometimes.

     

    Odd that someone made a stink about that, but nobody pointed the same thing out about these two, which I usually bring up in the Christmas season.....

     

    Whitefang

    Golf Carts

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    "Round here I see a lot of oldsters pedaling around on three wheeled bikes.(or trykes if you will)  Some with those 15' poles with triangular bright orange flags at the end.

    Those golf carts seem interesting though.  Good for being "green", and the same size but must be much less expensive than----

    Whitefang

    Exile

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    And it's all subjective.  For instance, NOTHING Talking Heads ever did appealed to me.  Byrne  was probably the most pretentious jerk wad in modern music.  I understand at some round table discussion somewhere, it was all some of the others could do to keep Stephen Stills restrained so he wouldn't slap the snot out of him(for some reason).   Something about Byrne claiming Talking Heads was the first band to introduce African rhythms into modern "white" rock music.  :rolleyes:  As to covers...

    There are some that do exceed the originals, and others that fall way short of being worth the bother to listen to.  Along with the number of people who do and do not care for them.  And then the few that are equally as good.

    Whitefang

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