Kevin K Rock Posted November 27, 2013 Share Posted November 27, 2013 Hi all I recently purchased what I thought was a normal 2009 Epiphone G400 on ebay with hardshell case. The guy advertised it as having the D shaped slim taper neck. But after receiving it I have noticed the neck is very thick, much more so than my strat. I think it might be the faded g-400 which I have read did not have a slim neck in 2009. Can anyone tell me if my guitar is in fact the faded g400 with a regular fat neck? I want to return it, but would need to prove its not as described to ebay. Link to ebay for sale ad http://www.ebay.com/itm/291016960924?_trksid=p2050601.m570.l4467&_trkparms=gh1g%3DI291016960924.N19.S2.M-8659 thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
6string Posted November 27, 2013 Share Posted November 27, 2013 The finish of the guitar in the Ebay ad doesn't look faded to me and the fret markers are trapezoid rather than dots as on the faded model. That would appear to be a regular G-400. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Summerisle Posted November 27, 2013 Share Posted November 27, 2013 Looks like a regular G-400 to me, too. The G-400 I had some years back had a chunky neck, too, in spite of the "slim taper" blurb. It's the nature of the beast, I think. Very different to a bog-standard Stratocaster neck. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kevin K Rock Posted November 27, 2013 Author Share Posted November 27, 2013 thanks guys, guess im SOL. Should tried one before buying online, i had read on a few forums that the neck was slimmer than a strat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vomer Posted November 27, 2013 Share Posted November 27, 2013 Sorry you found your way to the forum through a disappointment, but welcome anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobinTheHood Posted November 27, 2013 Share Posted November 27, 2013 The finish of the guitar in the Ebay ad doesn't look faded to me and the fret markers are trapezoid rather than dots as on the faded model. That would appear to be a regular G-400. The Fadeds had trapezoid inlays as well. The only SG's that have dots are the Specials and 1st gen G-400's. OP, I'm pretty sure the Fadeds had a satin finish, even if its hard to tell what it is by the color. The Ebay listing looked gloss to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gunner Posted November 27, 2013 Share Posted November 27, 2013 I'm not sure what Epi means by "slim taper". I have an Epi ES-355 that was advertised as having a slim taper neck and it is one of the chunkiest necks I have ever felt (not complaining). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kevin K Rock Posted November 28, 2013 Author Share Posted November 28, 2013 I'm not sure what Epi means by "slim taper". I have an Epi ES-355 that was advertised as having a slim taper neck and it is one of the chunkiest necks I have ever felt (not complaining). Thanks for all the replies.. Epiphone customer service confirmed its the normal g400 with "slim" neck from my serial # I was told to try the '61 style slim neck as its much slimmer than the one I have. Guess ill just put this one up for sale & see if I can find another. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bender 4 Life Posted November 29, 2013 Share Posted November 29, 2013 Thanks for all the replies.. Epiphone customer service confirmed its the normal g400 with "slim" neck from my serial # I was told to try the '61 style slim neck as its much slimmer than the one I have. Guess ill just put this one up for sale & see if I can find another. the "slim" neck on my '61 RI LPC SG is fatter than the "slim" on my SG DLX. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
capmaster Posted November 29, 2013 Share Posted November 29, 2013 Sometimes real size and subjective feel of a neck can be different. I experienced that it may not be the neck alone but the overall design of the package. A slim neck on a slim and light guitar like an SG feels thicker for me than one of same shape does on a deeper and heavier guitar like a Les Paul. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gilby Posted November 30, 2013 Share Posted November 30, 2013 I'm under the impression that the slim taper refers to the width of the neck/fretboard. ie. The width of the fret board at the nut down to last fret being a slim taper ? Still as D profile which always feels more of a handful. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
capmaster Posted November 30, 2013 Share Posted November 30, 2013 When comparing specs, Slim Taper refers to the neck depth obviously. Nut width and width at 12th fret are closely the same, regardless if the neck is a fatter 50s, late 50s rounded or 60s Slim Taper one. There are other factors coming into play when it goes around the feel of a neck. Neck angles, fretboard radiuses and fret wire height affect the playability as well as body depth and position of the scale length compared to the overall length. Except most of the Norlin era SGs with a lower neck set, the string scale is a bit shifted to the fretting hand's side on SGs, compared to most other solidbody guitars. This gives them a different feel for both fretting and striking hand. To me a Fender Stratocaster feels "shorter" than an SG although the scale lengths say the opposite. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bonzoboy Posted December 1, 2013 Share Posted December 1, 2013 The "Slim taper" on my G-400 SG bodied '61 Les Paul Custom is described as having a "slim taper" neck but it's almost as chunky as the neck on my acoustic 12 string dreadnaught. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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