duane v Posted May 9, 2022 Share Posted May 9, 2022 "An invisible mist humidifier uses a wick to absorb water from the reservoir, pulling it up toward a small fan. Some of the water evaporates, based on the humidity level of the air around it. Then the fan blows that evaporated water up in an invisible, cool stream of moist air." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
duane v Posted May 9, 2022 Share Posted May 9, 2022 No need to use distilled water as long as you are using the bacteria solution. The difference is that water vapor unit you bought just throws water mist into the air until the RH percentage is reached..... For me that isn't a good solution for humidifying a room full of guitars and electronic amps.... You can use what you like... Like I said I wouldn't use a water vapor unit that sends a cloud of unevaporated water into my guitar room..... Maybe I would use that if I had greenery or horrible allergies, but since I don't have either I wouldn't go near those with a 10 ft pole. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
duane v Posted May 9, 2022 Share Posted May 9, 2022 My system doesn't blow fog or a water mist...lol ... as stated previously the one I use is an invisible mist humidifier. So ya if I had one of those units you had I wouldn't place it anywhere near my guitars.... But I wouldn't purchase that option. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
duane v Posted May 9, 2022 Share Posted May 9, 2022 1 hour ago, Larsongs said: I went to their website & typed in the model #HD1409 & this is their Link, https://www.sylvane.com/aircare-valiant-whole-house-humidifier.html?_srt=ssr&keywords=hd1409 It looks good but do you think it's overkill for an 11X13 Room?? I like the idea of a 5 Gallon tank & able to use Tap Water.. How expensive are the filters & how often do you change them? Is there a way to check if your Guitar is at a proper Humidity level?? And, if so, how? And, what is the proper humidity level?? Thanks.. I have mine set for 40% and that works great for the dry SoCal weather. I change mine out every six months but my room is 2x the size of yours. The filters are $40 for the 8 pack and I haven't used them all yet in two years. I also have Humidity and Temperature Indicator... see link below. https://www.amazon.com/AIRCARE-Replacement-Wicking-Humidifier-Filter/dp/B07P45MPPC/ref=asc_df_B07P45MPPC/?tag=hyprod-20&linkCode=df0&hvadid=241917938064&hvpos=&hvnetw=g&hvrand=15706542566335046159&hvpone=&hvptwo=&hvqmt=&hvdev=c&hvdvcmdl=&hvlocint=&hvlocphy=1013962&hvtargid=pla-649438030985&th=1 https://www.coleparmer.com/i/digi-sense-precalibrated-humidity-and-temperature-indicator/2025030?PubID=UX&persist=true&ip=no&gclid=CjwKCAjw9-KTBhBcEiwAr19ig8F9Aeiz3XgZqHTkPwgd4XUjFS_Qbf-gauPc9xGxY8LP1wtnPXi90hoCEAsQAvD_BwE Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larsongs Posted May 9, 2022 Author Share Posted May 9, 2022 3 minutes ago, ghost_of_fl said: Ok so I set mine to the same settings at around 12:00pm. It was reading 20% humidity. Now at 4:30 it's reading 37% humidity. The room is 24' x 22'. It most definitely didn't take 2/3 of my reservoir to get there. Where are you located? Have you been humidifying your room for some time? If the Hygrometers are registering just air humidity is it taking into account the Room & Guitars internal Humidity? I wouldn’t think so.. Especially if you’ve been humidifying your Room for some time.. But, I don’t know for sure? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larsongs Posted May 10, 2022 Author Share Posted May 10, 2022 (edited) 7 hours ago, ghost_of_fl said: Nah I just moved recently and haven't been using it at all. I'm in NY. My hygrometer needs to be replaced, I'm just going by what it says on the digital display of the Levoit. The humidity inside your cases and instruments will definitely be different than the air humidity until it has been running in the room for some time. Does your hygrometer generally match up with what the Levoit says humidity-wise? It did match up.. I got it at Home Depot. It’s made by Accurite & cost $14.00… It shows current Temperature & Humidity. As well as the High & Low Temperature & Humidity of the day.. Edited May 10, 2022 by Larsongs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fortyearspickn Posted May 10, 2022 Share Posted May 10, 2022 As I touched on a few days ago - the air has to get and stay humid for awhile as the materials in the room - wooden flooring, rugs, leather couches, as well as guitars, absorb the invisible moisture. Some materials can retain more moisture - compare a sponge to a brick or wood to plastic - and will imperceptibly steal moisture from the air while other materials are 'full'. But, as Ghost said - it shouldn't have taken that long and that much water to get to 40% and it shouldn't have dropped off rapidly ... unless you LEFT the door open and had your AC or Fan blowing. My room has double 'french' doors with a quarter inch gap between and I can feel the air blowing out when they are closed and the Central Air system is active. Since I always keep the doors closed, I got on chair and adjusted the air vent to a minimum to get to a less volatile space. I shoot for 50%, but that's me. Interesting Duane's info on the wick type VS the mist blowing ultra-sonic . I definitely wouldn't want a mist floating over near my guitars or electronics. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mihcmac Posted May 10, 2022 Share Posted May 10, 2022 I still have to run a de-humidifier to fight off too much condensation, corrosion and oxidation. But this part of the joy of having all the windows open all year around for fresh air.. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larsongs Posted May 10, 2022 Author Share Posted May 10, 2022 (edited) 6 hours ago, fortyearspickn said: As I touched on a few days ago - the air has to get and stay humid for awhile as the materials in the room - wooden flooring, rugs, leather couches, as well as guitars, absorb the invisible moisture. Some materials can retain more moisture - compare a sponge to a brick or wood to plastic - and will imperceptibly steal moisture from the air while other materials are 'full'. But, as Ghost said - it shouldn't have taken that long and that much water to get to 40% and it shouldn't have dropped off rapidly ... unless you LEFT the door open and had your AC or Fan blowing. My room has double 'french' doors with a quarter inch gap between and I can feel the air blowing out when they are closed and the Central Air system is active. Since I always keep the doors closed, I got on chair and adjusted the air vent to a minimum to get to a less volatile space. I shoot for 50%, but that's me. Interesting Duane's info on the wick type VS the mist blowing ultra-sonic . I definitely wouldn't want a mist floating over near my guitars or electronics. Where I live, Palm Springs, Ca., it’s hot so I run A/C all day this time of year & thru Summer… I did leave the door closed & humidity started at 29%. After a few hours it was 32% in my 11 X 13 Room… It used aprox a gallon of Distelled water… That’s another question. From what I read on all the Humidifiers I don’t see anything that states Distilled or Purified Water is required. Whether they have reusable Filter or not.. Can Tap Water be used in all of them? Edited May 10, 2022 by Larsongs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larsongs Posted May 10, 2022 Author Share Posted May 10, 2022 12 minutes ago, ghost_of_fl said: that's crazy, so about 2/3 of the reservoir? I turned mine on this morning at 8am with the reservoir full and left it running all day. It's 5pm here now and I only went through about 1/4 of the water. I'll see how long it takes to run out a full tank. I currently have 13 Guitars out in the Room too… To be re-humidified.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fortyearspickn Posted May 10, 2022 Share Posted May 10, 2022 6 hours ago, ghost_of_fl said: So what you get from the "non-wick type" is a small amount of mist where the vapor comes out. It quickly disappears because you are blowing mist into dry air. Even very close to the unit where the mist is falling, it is never damp to the touch, because the vapor immediately evaporates into the room air instead of creating condensation. Long story short I don't believe for a second that the water vapor which is evaporating a foot from the humidifier is magically re-saturating the air when it reaches my guitars. If you set it to shut off when the humidity reaches 40 or 50%, it just doesn't makes sense that the room would ever fill with a cloud of water vapor. Agree. I have the ultrasonic type - if you set it only to half way - the mist doesn't get more than a couple of feet out. Will run for 2 days on half a gallon of distilled water. It's a balancing act. One, I might not mind trying in HI. Lived in Jacksonville, Ft.Lauderdale and Miami - probably not a lot different. "It's not the heat, it's the humidity." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larsongs Posted May 11, 2022 Author Share Posted May 11, 2022 On 5/9/2022 at 8:16 AM, duane v said: Send it back. You don't want a humidifier that sends water vapors into the air like that one. It's bad for amp electronics, your electronics in your guitars and eventually you'll have bacteria build up in your room causing some lung issues. I don't think the Le Voit is going to work out. There is nothing wrong with it other than it doesn't fit in my small studio.. A Tower type would be preferable.. Would this be a good choice for my 11 X 13 Studio? https://aircareproducts.com/humidifiers/tower-d46720/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larsongs Posted May 11, 2022 Author Share Posted May 11, 2022 (edited) 3 hours ago, ghost_of_fl said: It probably would, but that one has 2 Gal capacity. Didn't the one from Duane's link have a 5 Gal tank? For $50 more that might be the way to go. The Levoit in my case ran for about 26-28 hours before I needed to refill it. The bigger one would be great but it’s too big for my Studio.. I have a space that’s 15” wide between a door to a Closet & a door to a Bath room that a Tower type would fit perfect & not be in the way of anything.. Edited May 11, 2022 by Larsongs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
duane v Posted May 11, 2022 Share Posted May 11, 2022 4 hours ago, Larsongs said: I don't think the Le Voit is going to work out. There is nothing wrong with it other than it doesn't fit in my small studio.. A Tower type would be preferable.. Would this be a good choice for my 11 X 13 Studio? https://aircareproducts.com/humidifiers/tower-d46720/ I think that one will work. The one I have is technically too big for my room, but I do like the fact I don’t have to refill the resiviores often. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larsongs Posted May 12, 2022 Author Share Posted May 12, 2022 3 hours ago, duane v said: I think that one will work. The one I have is technically too big for my room, but I do like the fact I don’t have to refill the resiviores often. It would be great if it were taller & could hold more water. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fortyearspickn Posted May 12, 2022 Share Posted May 12, 2022 10 hours ago, Larsongs said: It would be great if it were taller & could hold more water. It would be great if I were taller and could hold more beer... 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
duane v Posted May 12, 2022 Share Posted May 12, 2022 11 hours ago, Larsongs said: It would be great if it were taller & could hold more water. With you living in Palms Spring it's gonna be a never ending battle with fighting off the lack of humidity. I live in La Verne and and have many instances of RH in the 20's. If I'm working on electronics I bring a little work table upstairs and my ESD mat and do my electronics work in the jam room. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larsongs Posted May 12, 2022 Author Share Posted May 12, 2022 I wish I had more room for Plants & a Fish Tank.. As it is I'm trying to find a spot that a good Tower Humidifier (that will do the job) will fit.. The Levoit was too boxy & by the time you moved it away from the wall it was sitting in the middle of the Room.. It wasn't working for my Room.. I nooticed last night the humidity droppoed to 23%... I think I need to get it done.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larsongs Posted May 13, 2022 Author Share Posted May 13, 2022 1 hour ago, ghost_of_fl said: Do you run the A/C all night? Do you need to? This time of year I have Thermostat set to 76 degrees. It’s Automatic… Summers when it’s really hot in the 100’s I set it 78-80 degrees.. So, yeah, pretty much most of the year… Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larsongs Posted May 14, 2022 Author Share Posted May 14, 2022 I returned the Levoit & ordered this Aircare EP9500 today.. This will fit better in my Studio & I’m hoping it will do a good job.. It has some good features similar to Duane’s & has a 3.5 Gallon capacity which almost triple the Levoit.. https://aircareproducts.com/humidifiers/pedestal-ep9500/ 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
duane v Posted May 16, 2022 Share Posted May 16, 2022 I like that one.... I like that you don't have to remove the tanks to fill it up.... Hopefully it works out for you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larsongs Posted May 16, 2022 Author Share Posted May 16, 2022 2 hours ago, duane v said: I like that one.... I like that you don't have to remove the tanks to fill it up.... Hopefully it works out for you. Supposed to be here around the 23rd of May.. I'll post a follow up... Thanks L Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larsongs Posted May 17, 2022 Author Share Posted May 17, 2022 (edited) 11 hours ago, ghost_of_fl said: I had a though about the air conditioner and humidifier fighting each other. Any way to take the water coming out of the A/C and route it to the reservoir of the humidifier using a hose? Otherwise you are going to go through a lot of water. Not that would allow peaceful coexistence with my wife! Actually thought about having it professionally done.. But, I want to try this first & see how it goes.. Personally I prefer a dry Climate.. It’s good for me. Turns out it’s not good for my Guitars.. Edited May 17, 2022 by Larsongs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
duane v Posted May 17, 2022 Share Posted May 17, 2022 8 hours ago, Larsongs said: Not that would allow peaceful coexistence with my wife! Actually thought about having it professionally done.. But, I want to try this first & see how it goes.. Personally I prefer a dry Climate.. It’s good for me. Turns out it’s not good for my Guitars.. The AC really doesn't fight the humidifier that much. I have found the humidifier consumes the same amount of water with or without the AC on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Karloff Posted May 17, 2022 Share Posted May 17, 2022 I haven't read through this entire thread so sorry if this has already been discussed, but do semi-hollow guitars (335's, Thinline Teles) require humidity control as much as acoustics ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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