cliftonclyde Posted April 11, 2009 Share Posted April 11, 2009 Hi, This is the best pic I can take to describe what I am talking about, but I will try and thanks for looking. I have an alpine white les paul studio about 5 years sold. I noticed something on the seam of the neck joint that looks like a very thin black line. Looks like it is on the joint of the neck on the seam on the side. I am wondering if anyone else noticed something like this on their les paul. Strangely enough, I had a white jackson Dinky that did something simular. Here is a link to the pic...should I be concerned? Everything seems fine and it never goes out of tune. Thanks to all! http://s63.photobucket.com/albums/h126/cliftonclyde/?action=view¤t=SS858418.jpg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
callen3615 Posted April 11, 2009 Share Posted April 11, 2009 Dont worry about it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlackHawk233 Posted April 11, 2009 Share Posted April 11, 2009 If I'm correct its at the bottom center below the fretboard? It looks like a scratch or Blemish, I wouldn't rule out a crack, And I'd be worried. but thats just me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cliftonclyde Posted April 11, 2009 Author Share Posted April 11, 2009 its right at the joint...it almost looks like the paint is not on part of the seam...it looks like that on the back, too. Its at the seam where the neck connects to the body. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlackHawk233 Posted April 11, 2009 Share Posted April 11, 2009 Ok, after taking your picture. Dropping the exposure (sorry my screen is weird) I saw it, Yeah Id be worried about that, almost as if your neck is slowly cracking off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cliftonclyde Posted April 11, 2009 Author Share Posted April 11, 2009 ugh man. I just bought this thing from a friend...Well, thanks for the reply. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlackHawk233 Posted April 11, 2009 Share Posted April 11, 2009 Don't take my advise fully though, I would first wait for Axe or Any of those big timers here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
callen3615 Posted April 11, 2009 Share Posted April 11, 2009 If the neck moves you have a problem. What gauge strings are on it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cliftonclyde Posted April 11, 2009 Author Share Posted April 11, 2009 10s..neck isnt moving at all so far. Aren't those necks glued on? Sorry for being so new. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
callen3615 Posted April 11, 2009 Share Posted April 11, 2009 10s..neck isnt moving at all so far. Aren't those necks glued on? Sorry for being so new. Yes. its probably a crack in the finish. If the neck starts moving Id take it to a tech. it was glued on before, it can be done again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlackHawk233 Posted April 11, 2009 Share Posted April 11, 2009 I agree with callen, odds are it really is only a finish crack, I can figure if not a full neck crack, maybe weather made the finish expand and it found the neck join the best place to crack when expanded. And yeah, although probably pricey, a tech will fix it right up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cliftonclyde Posted April 11, 2009 Author Share Posted April 11, 2009 yeah that is kinda what it looks like. It doesn't look like it is a wood crack. Its right on the seam, maybe the paint loosened up over the years or something. Thing stays really well in tune and all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cliftonclyde Posted April 11, 2009 Author Share Posted April 11, 2009 And thanks everyone for replying. This is a great forum!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlackHawk233 Posted April 11, 2009 Share Posted April 11, 2009 Ok, I would just look over it for a bit, see if it worsens. Ps: Callen your picture is epic, Metallica ftw. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
callen3615 Posted April 11, 2009 Share Posted April 11, 2009 yeah that is kinda what it looks like. It doesn't look like it is a wood crack. Its right on the seam' date=' maybe the paint loosened up over the years or something. Thing stays really well in tune and all. [/quote'] Wood moves around over time, not much. paint doesnt move, it cracks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cliftonclyde Posted April 11, 2009 Author Share Posted April 11, 2009 pure logic! Thanks again! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cliftonclyde Posted April 11, 2009 Author Share Posted April 11, 2009 And I guess it sticks out more...being white and all Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
callen3615 Posted April 11, 2009 Share Posted April 11, 2009 And I guess it sticks out more...being white and all Can we see more pics of it?? I love white les pauls. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigKahune Posted April 11, 2009 Share Posted April 11, 2009 the joint flexed more than the paint can handle and the paint now reveals where the joint seam is. don't lift the guitar by the neck unless you're holding in right next to that joint (to avoid undue flex). the further away from the neck joint (toward the headstorck) you lift from the more potential stress you load on that joint - especially true with the heavy body of an LP. as the others have said, keep and eye on it and if the seam starts to widen, take it in to luthier. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
80LPC Posted April 11, 2009 Share Posted April 11, 2009 Wood's dimensions alter with changes in temperature and humidity, and hairlines can develop. It can be minimised by allowing the guitar to remain in the case so that it can acclimatise to different conditions. Might be due to some physical stress, but it would be helpful if there were better pictures. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluesburst Posted April 11, 2009 Share Posted April 11, 2009 Hiya I have exactly the same crack on 3 of my Gibsons. An 07 Flying V, 07 Reverse V (both came with the crack!!!) and a 2002 ES137C. All of them are transparent finishes and I can see it is a nitro crack only and in all 3 cases the wood joint is sound. The 135 has been like that for 6 years, no problems. It sucks cosmetically but sadly part of the game of owning a Gibson. My 8 year old Les Paul on the other hand has been put through hell and while theres a little checking on other parts of the body, the neck is fine... It's hit and miss. Over and out Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chongo Posted April 12, 2009 Share Posted April 12, 2009 Hi' date=' This is the best pic I can take to describe what I am talking about, but I will try and thanks for looking. I have an alpine white les paul studio about 5 years sold. I noticed something on the seam of the neck joint that looks like a very thin black line. Looks like it is on the joint of the neck on the seam on the side. I am wondering if anyone else noticed something like this on their les paul. Strangely enough, I had a white jackson Dinky that did something simular. Here is a link to the pic...should I be concerned? Everything seems fine and it never goes out of tune. Thanks to all! http://s63.photobucket.com/albums/h126/cliftonclyde/?action=view¤t=SS858418.jpg[/quote'] Ignore it for now. It's Most likely a finish crack due to expansion and contraction of the wood at a different rate from the lacquer. Guitars finished in nitrocelluolose lacquer are more susceptible to this because the finish eventually becomes more brittle with age as the solvents continue to outgas. That's why you routinely see older Gibsons with finish checking and even lacquer flaking off in spots. IMHO, it's time for Gibson to stop using that junk and move to a UV-catalyzed polyester thin coat that doesn't continue to degrade with time, but they've promoted it as some kind of mojo tone inducer, so they've stuck themselves (and you) with it. It's probably *not* an indication that there's a stability problem with the neck or the glue joint. I've got glued-neck lacquer-finished guitars that have had a crack line around the neck joint for 40 years, and they're rock-solid stable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
g6120 Posted April 12, 2009 Share Posted April 12, 2009 Myself hum ... Very well could be nothing to be addressed ... If it were my guitar Think i would have a tech take a look at it , better to be safe than sorry and to me that line looks too straight across because finish cracking for the most part are not straight lines they deviate to some degree . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flight959 Posted April 12, 2009 Share Posted April 12, 2009 There is nothing with your neck... The paint has just sunk into the gap where the heal of you neck joins the body.. Looks fine to me.... Flight959 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grooveline88 Posted April 22, 2010 Share Posted April 22, 2010 How did this turn out? It's been a year since your post. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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