jerrylee22001 Posted May 6, 2008 Share Posted May 6, 2008 Can one of you Gibson mavens out there tell me what kind of tuners were on the 1978 and 1979 ES 335's? Thanks. JerryLee Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ibis Posted May 6, 2008 Share Posted May 6, 2008 Maven is such a good word! Welcome to the forums by the way! –noun an expert or connoisseur. Also, mavin. [Origin: 1960–65; < Yiddish < Heb: connoisseur] But no, sorry, I can't help. I'm sure someone will though! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnt Posted May 11, 2008 Share Posted May 11, 2008 Can one of you Gibson mavens out there tell me what kind of tuners were on the 1978 and 1979 ES 335's? Thanks. JerryLee Dunno either but try http://vintage-guitars.blogspot.com/2006/05/gibson-es-335.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
L5Larry Posted May 11, 2008 Share Posted May 11, 2008 Here's the back of the headstock of my mislabelled (Deluxe) 1975 Les Paul Standard. They are inscribed as "Kluson Deluxe". The '75 335 I once owned had the same tuners. This is as close to '78/79 as I can get you. I also think that during that era it had a lot to do with what they had on hand. If you can see the impression of a Kluson style baseplate on the headstock, they were probably this style. What differentiates these from the current (or vintage ones) is that the plastic buttons had two rings on the bottom of them instead of one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NeoConMan Posted May 11, 2008 Share Posted May 11, 2008 Grover website has a couple options for you. I understand they are a direct replacement for many as you describe. 133 series http://www.grotro.com/Mainvintage.html 135 series with 14:1 ratio http://www.grotro.com/Mainvintage.html 136 series http://www.grotro.com/Mainvintage.html They are made as well as anybody else, I've always had good luck with them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Notes_Norton Posted May 11, 2008 Share Posted May 11, 2008 My 1970 ES-330 has Klusons similar to the picture LSLarry posted, the only difference is the plastic knob shape. The previous owner of my Epiphone Casino (very similar guitar to the ES) replaced the Klusons with Grovers. I can't say that I prefer the Grovers over the Klusons. They both seem to work well, and they both keep the guitar in tune as well as can be expected. Rubbing a little pencil lead in the grooves of the nut when I change the strings helps more than anything else I've ever tried to assist tuning. It keeps the strings from binding in the nut. I've heard some people putting a tiny bit of oil on the saddle, I tried that once but didn't like it - and it doesn't seem necessary either (on my guitars). I put a drop or two of liquid Teflon lubricant in the hole of the Klusons every 5 years or so, and that seems to be all it takes to keep them working smoothly. So whichever tuner is on the ES-335s, I think they will work just fine. Notes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spitball Posted May 11, 2008 Share Posted May 11, 2008 I once had a '79 ES-335 CRR stock with Grovers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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