Ron G Posted December 12, 2008 Share Posted December 12, 2008 Maybe this'll help settle the argument. Simple question, simple answer. No more, no less. Forget whether you think one of them is worth X times as much - it's not germane to the question. Liars need not respond. Note: Assume they're identical except for the headstock - best match I could find Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueLesPaul2006 Posted December 12, 2008 Share Posted December 12, 2008 I picked the Gibson. I just like the color better. The Epi seems to dark. However, I do like the flame of the Epi more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ron G Posted December 12, 2008 Author Share Posted December 12, 2008 I picked the Gibson. I just like the color better. The Epi seems to dark. However' date=' I do like the flame of the Epi more. [/quote']I just edited the text - I wanted you guys to assume they looked almost identical, finish-wise, etc.. You obviously didn't understand where I was going..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RSDx Posted December 12, 2008 Share Posted December 12, 2008 Just for the record, we're to assume neither are fakes and you can afford whichever, correct ??? .... the choice then is easy .... Maybe this'll help settle the argument. Simple question' date=' simple answer.No more, no less. Forget whether you think one of them is worth X times as much - it's not germane to the question. [/quote'] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ron G Posted December 12, 2008 Author Share Posted December 12, 2008 Just for the record' date=' we're to assume neither are fakes and you can afford whichever, correct ??? .... the choice then is easy ....[/quote']Duh! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest alanhindle Posted December 12, 2008 Share Posted December 12, 2008 Picked the Gibby of course. I'd swap my Epi Std Plus for the Gibby in a flash if money was no object. The problem is I don't think it's worth the £1,200 ($2,400 in your money) more than my £300 Epi which I adore. I could afford the Gibby if I wanted to but.... a) I would be frightened to death to pick it up I'm worried that it wouldn't live up to my expectations of it, and c) To coin a bit of airline speak, I might experience a slight reduction in the number of testicles. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkEpTiKaL Posted December 12, 2008 Share Posted December 12, 2008 I don't really understand the point of the thread. I mean, we all love our Epiphones here, but we love them because they're affordable. IMO it would be extremely stupid to pick a product of inferior build and wood quality, when you can receive a better product for the same price. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mugatu Posted December 12, 2008 Share Posted December 12, 2008 ^^ And there's the crux! I take it, Ron, you mean that given a choice, and cost is NOT an issue (i.e. someone else will give you a choice of two free guitars) then which would we choose? Bit of a no brainer... we'd all go for the Gibson. If only for the fact we could resell it and then buy an epi and pocket the difference! [-(/ Seriously, we all know the Gibson is probably a slightly better guitar. We all know that an Epi is a pretty close second. And we all know that the 700-1000 pound price difference doesn't correspond to the difference in quality. So what's the point here? Are you just making the point that Gibson are better? If so, I can't help but agree. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrRomero Posted December 12, 2008 Share Posted December 12, 2008 I would choose the Gibson one, only becuase Gibson are awsome and i like the guitar necks more on Gibson rather then the one's on Epiphone's.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brad1 Posted December 12, 2008 Share Posted December 12, 2008 Well, if I bought a guitar purely on how it looked, this would matter to me. But looks are very secondary. Feel, sound, weight, and many other factors are much more important. So.........I guess I fail to see a real point to this topic as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
strngbndr Posted December 12, 2008 Share Posted December 12, 2008 New Gibson or old Gibson? I played a couple of new Gibsons recently, and the neck and playability is not close to what it is on the old ones. I'd buy an old Gibson over the Epi, but not a new one--detail, craftsmanship and consistency just ain't there anymore. But if you have a chance to play several, you might find one you like. Does Epi make an Elitist Les Paul? I've owned vintage Gibsons and new ones, and the elitists I've owned/played stand up to the quality of many of the old Gibsons. Jeff Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IntelligentAl Posted December 12, 2008 Share Posted December 12, 2008 Well obviously the Gibson seems like the obvious choice. Don't get me wrong, I love my Epi, but even if the difference is only very slight, the difference is still there. You choose a guitar to get the best one possible, so even the slightest detail can affect your choice. Therefore, for free, the Gibson is my choice. In the real world, I would choose the Epi because for the price it is an outstanding guitar, but if money were no object I would choose the Gibson. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ricochet Posted December 12, 2008 Share Posted December 12, 2008 Cheerybursts...meh... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JefferySmith Posted December 12, 2008 Share Posted December 12, 2008 Sorry, but I had to go for that clownburst [barf!]. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snookelputz Posted December 12, 2008 Share Posted December 12, 2008 This might be a bit more telling --- I own about 2 dozen guitars. Most are Epiphones, 2nd most are Gibsons. Of the guitars that stay on a rack or stand where I can get it anytime I have the urge: Gibson LP Junior Epiphone Riviera Gibson SG These are my personal favorites. I play the Junior about twice as much as the SG, and the Riviera about the same as the SG. Why? Because the Gibsons feel better. The Riviera is modified all to hell and gone, in fact - mods cost more than the SG. Both Gibsons are bone stock (setup and strings are the only changes from original equipment), and are still preferable (3 to 1 more play time!!!) to the Epiphones. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ron G Posted December 12, 2008 Author Share Posted December 12, 2008 At this moment the score is 14-0. Despite some of you bringing up the old, tired comparisons, the score is still 14-0. And that's the point. We all think Gibson is a better guitar, period. How much better is a whole 'nother, very subjective thing, which is not worth discussing. Remember, I don't own a Gibson (I did in the distant past) - I own an Epiphone, for my personal reasons but not because it's a better guitar. So, regardless of your own personal reasons for owning an Epiphone instead of a Gibson (if this applies), "better guitar" isn't one of them. I said "better guitar", not "better guitar for the money", "better modding platform", etc.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stan 58 Posted December 12, 2008 Share Posted December 12, 2008 To be fair you'd have to put A Gibson LP Vers. an Epi LP ,Sheraton and an SG custom. That would be an equal choice. I'm not sure which i'd take in that case. Stan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snookelputz Posted December 12, 2008 Share Posted December 12, 2008 Why be fair? I'm the only one who gets to buy and play them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ricky Presto Posted December 12, 2008 Share Posted December 12, 2008 Two words: Gib-son. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Just Strum Posted December 12, 2008 Share Posted December 12, 2008 Ron - SCORE!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ron G Posted December 12, 2008 Author Share Posted December 12, 2008 "I take it, Ron, you mean that given a choice, and cost is NOT an issue then which would we choose?' Isn't that what I said? ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- "Bit of a no brainer... we'd all go for the Gibson." Seems to be the concensus ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- "Seriously, we all know the Gibson is probably a slightly better guitar. We all know that an Epi is a pretty close second. And we all know that the 700-1000 pound price difference doesn't correspond to the difference in quality." No! We "all" don't know these things. They are your opinions, and that's fine; just don't assume they're universal. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- "So what's the point here? Are you just making the point that Gibson are better? If so, I can't help but agree" Well........uh.........yes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ron G Posted December 12, 2008 Author Share Posted December 12, 2008 Now it's 17-1. Who's the smartass? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JefferySmith Posted December 12, 2008 Share Posted December 12, 2008 Now it's 17-1. Who's the smartass? Someone who hates clownburst [barf!] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ron G Posted December 12, 2008 Author Share Posted December 12, 2008 ....Someone who hates clownburst This is off-topic. But since we're here: how different and un-barfy is the finish on your Alleykat? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JefferySmith Posted December 12, 2008 Share Posted December 12, 2008 This is off-topic. But since we're here: how different and un-barfy is the finish on your Alleykat? It is cherrier than the one picture (the red is more saturated). I know that cherry burst is not a very "classic" color, but I like it better than painted guitars (with no wood grain showing). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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