Luap Posted January 11, 2009 Share Posted January 11, 2009 Hello everyone! I want a new guitar, and i've got a budget around 950 euros (1.300 US dollar)..now, I've got a few options..what should I do? 1. Wait till 2-2-2009 and buy a Casino Elitist from musicstore.de 2. Don't wait, and buy a normal Casino VS with Bigsby (and maybe upgrade a few electronics) 3. Don't wait, and buy a normal Casino (and maybe upgrade a few electronics) 4. an other guitar? Sheraton, Riviera, ? I want a "330 model", so if you have got some ideas or other options, and advice, I'll like to hear it! Thanks! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hiberna Posted January 11, 2009 Share Posted January 11, 2009 ive had a go on all the epi hollowbodys and ive found that the riviera's are insanely good, better then alot of high brow gibson 335s,355s ect. and most others when ive compared them. however they stopped making them a while ago, but you can find 2nd hand ones flying about. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luap Posted January 11, 2009 Author Share Posted January 11, 2009 But, another question: is the Elitist worth waiting one month, and paying a lot of more money? Or could you upgrade a normal Casino, for less money? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hiberna Posted January 11, 2009 Share Posted January 11, 2009 depends, if you plan on doing it yourself or getting a pro to do it because it could reflect the costs. however, i would rather get the cheap casino then put pickups in that i wanted so i could get the exact unique sound i want. but if you dont know much about pickups and cant be bothered with the fuss, could just wait for the elitist. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
charlie brown Posted January 11, 2009 Share Posted January 11, 2009 But' date=' another question: is the Elitist worth waiting one month, and paying a lot of more money? Or could you upgrade a normal Casino, for less money?[/quote'] If it were me, Yes. Elitist will be the best Casino you could get (save maybe the "Lennon" version, which is a LOT more money, but not a lot different). And, I doubt seriously, you'd need to "mod" it, unless you just felt like it. Pickups, electronics, and hardware are all American, and first rate, on the Elitists. CB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
L1Picker Posted January 11, 2009 Share Posted January 11, 2009 If it were me, I'd wait the few weeks and go with the Elitist Casino. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluelake07 Posted January 11, 2009 Share Posted January 11, 2009 But' date=' another question: is the Elitist worth waiting one month, and paying a lot of more money? Or could you upgrade a normal Casino, for less money?[/quote'] Get the Elitist. Yes, the hardware and electronics of a normal Casino can be upgraded, but the body construction of an Elitist is very high-quality and obviously one can't upgrade a normal to that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hiberna Posted January 11, 2009 Share Posted January 11, 2009 Get the Elitist. Yes' date=' the hardware and electronics of a normal Casino can be upgraded, but the body construction of an Elitist is very high-quality and obviously one can't upgrade a normal to that.[/quote'] yeah, he's right actually, but still, have a look around. you never may know what you might find. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Buffalo Posted January 11, 2009 Share Posted January 11, 2009 I have two Rivieras and a MIK Casino (pictures to follow, maybe even today), and I play the Casino more than all my other electrics combined. (I count my MIK EJ160-E as an acoustic/electric, and I play it more than all my other guitars combined.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Buffalo Posted January 11, 2009 Share Posted January 11, 2009 Pictures. [/img] [/img] Something went wrong - my pictures didn't post. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Buffalo Posted January 11, 2009 Share Posted January 11, 2009 I'll try again. Going back to your original post, I don't think you'd regret any of those choices, and if you do, it's not like you're stuck with it - you can always sell it or trade it in on something else. Sucess. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Notes_Norton Posted January 12, 2009 Share Posted January 12, 2009 Since I have never owned an Elitist, I cannot give a fair answer, but I do own an ES-330 so I can give a viewpoint on that. My standard 2001 MIK (Peerless) Casino has Grover tuners and Duncan pickups with US pots and it sounds better plugged in than my 1970, stock, ES-330, MIUSA (Kalamazoo). I am guessing the better amplified sound is due to the Duncan pickups because the 330 actually sounds better as an acoustic guitar. If you want a 330, the Riviera is a different guitar, so you might think twice about that one. Musician's Friend is offering new 330s, but the price is steep (about $2,500.00 US). OK differences between my 330 and are as follows: Gibson - nitro finish / Epi - poly Gibson - metal saddles / Epi - nylon Gibson - MOP inlays / Epi - MOT Gibson - better wood / Epi good, but not as good wood Gibson - higher fret access / Epi - I don't often play that high anyway The build quality of both guitars are excellent. Personally, I like the poly finish better, as it is easier to keep the guitar clean and shiny. I've heard it affects the tone of the guitar, and the Gibson does sound better unplugged, but the Grover pups make the Casino sound better than the Gibson once it is amplified, and that is what the audience hears. If someone could compare the Elitist to the regular Casino features it might help you. Is the Elitist worth the extra money? It depends on whether the differences are worth it to you or not. I can't answer that. If there was an Elitist for sale when I bought my "normal" Casino, I don't know which one I would have chosen. Insights and incites by Notes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dougg330 Posted January 14, 2009 Share Posted January 14, 2009 Hi - If money is not an object, grit your teeth and wait two more weeks and get the Elitist Casino. I own a Chinese-made Casino and am insanely happy with it. Swapped out the pickups for GFS P-90's and upgraded the tuners and bridge saddles (Tusq). Even put on a black pickguard like my 330 has. Plugged in, it sounds very close to the amplified tome of my 1966 ES-330. Unplugged, it's not as resonant - new wood, poly finish, etc. But I have owned an Elitist Byrdland, and can tell you the quality of the build and electronics was spectacular. I would imagine that would apply to the Elitist Casino, too. You would have a guitar that very close to the Gibson 330 in build and electronics. Another consideration: if you really want the sound of a 330, you need the hollow body and P-90's of the Casino. A semi-hollow with humbuckers will have a thicker, denser tone that won't quite be the same. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JefferySmith Posted January 14, 2009 Share Posted January 14, 2009 Elitist Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
i hate classical music Posted January 14, 2009 Share Posted January 14, 2009 there both great guitars Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stig Posted January 14, 2009 Share Posted January 14, 2009 I have a MIK Casino and love it. But if you have the money and one's available, I'd take the Elitist. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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