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Nothing political here...

I was wondering if Epiphone ever considered doing a signature George Harrison or Paul McCartney Casino?? Everyone is only talking about Lennon Lennon Lennon!!! Where are the other two geniuses in there?

 

It that Limited Edition Casino with the Bigsby the only tribute to Georgy or Macca???

 

 

I personally think the Casino George had was ten times more beautiful than the one Lennon had, but that's only my opinion. To be quite honest I could never identify with Lennon... It's always been George for me... I mean, this man has made the electric 12-string famous!!! And even the company with a slight german name (although the guy was from Switzerland) never ever mentioned his name on the guitar that made him famnous...

 

 

Is it because George never wanted a signature guitar named after him? Was he sooo humble and modest?

 

 

I personally would find it cool to see his name on a guit but on the other hand that would give the company the opportunity to increase the prices drastically!!!

 

 

Nick

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I think it's because of all the guitars George Harrison owned in his lifetime (and his time with the Beatles), the Epiphone Casino does not appear to have been especially important to him. According to the information found at the Canteen site, the guitar ended up as a wall ornament, quite early in its career: http://www.thecanteen.com/harrison1.html

 

I guess a George Harrison signature guitar should really be a Gretsch Country Gent, Rickenbacker 12 string or even a Fender Strat. I think he played the Casino on a couple of tours, the 'Hello-Goodbye' video, and that's about it.

 

I agree with you re: the McCartney Casino though. Especially given it's early headstock - it's interesting in its own right. More importantly, Paul McCartney has owned and played that guitar for the vast majority of his adult life (and still uses it to this day) - so it really is his 'signature' guitar.

 

BTW: the Harrison signature guitar I'm waiting for is one of these:

 

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Want a George Harrison Casino...buy the Lennon one, and put a Bigsby on it! "Viola!"

Now Macca's Casino could be a more interesting one, for Epi to do...because Paul still uses

his, to this day, and with the older type headstock, it would be more unique.

And, though Rickenbacker doesn't have a signature "Harrison" 12-string, per se...they make plenty of

references, to it/him with the 360-12V63...even down to the correct "fireglow" finish shading, of George's guitar.

It was a very important guitar, for Rickenbacker...and George put it to good use, throught the Beatle days,

and even later. BUT...Roger McGuinn made the Rick 12-string sound, the entire focus of his career! Hence,

his "Signature model," and rightfully so...IMHO.

 

CB

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Fender did a run of rosewood Telecasters last year. They weren't signatures' date=' but I'd prefer it that way.[/quote']

 

Were they those Japanese ones? I seem to remember playing one of those, but there was nothing especially memorable about it. BTW, I actually agree with you re: signature guitars.

 

Charlie Brown wrote:

Want a George Harrison Casino...by the Lennon one, and put a Bigsby on it! Wahla!

 

But wasn't George's a Royal Tan not a Sunburst?

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George's Casino' date=' as John's started out, was a Sunburst. They were slightly different,

in shading, which even now, is quite common. They both removed the finish, later...

George, after John....but near the same time.

 

CB[/quote']

 

Well, I'm not a Beatles expert by any means CB, although I'm guessing you are, so I'll take your word for it.

 

but I'm still not 100% convinced(!) :(

 

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Sacre bleu! What ees wees you Americains trying to use expressions en Francais when you can't even spell ze words??? "Wahla"???? "Viola"??? (eet ees a stringed instrument like a biggair violin, non?)

 

Ze French word zat means "and zair you have eet" is VOILA. Eef you're going to say eet, you should know 'ow to spell eet!

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Were they those Japanese ones? I seem to remember playing one of those' date=' but there was nothing especially memorable about it. BTW, I actually agree with you re: signature guitars.[/quote']

 

Maybe there was a Japanese run, but I was referring to the 2007 Custom Shop version... Elderly still has their product listing:

 

http://www.elderly.com/fmic/items/FCSLRT.htm

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Well' date=' I'm not a Beatles expert by any means CB, although I'm guessing you are, so I'll take your word for it.

 

but I'm still not 100% convinced(!) :(

 

[img']http://www.beatlefans.com/images/hello%20goodbye.JPG[/img]

 

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I'm NO "Beatles" expert, or Epiphone expert, either. That would be left to others, on this forum.

I can understand your doubt...It does look like, in THAT photo, that George's Casino was more the

"Royal Tan"...but, it's really just a less blackened Sunburst. Royal Tan is different, still. Even John's

sunburst looked different in other lighting situations, which is not uncommon. People thought George's

Gretsch Country Gent was "Black," at times...and, in some lighting, even in color...it looks to be black,

when in fact, it's a very deep/dark brown. So, lighting and angle...or how the finish reflects light,

can make a significant difference, in it's appearance.

 

CB

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Sacre bleu! What ees wees you Americains trying to use expressions en Francais when you can't even spell ze words??? "Wahla"???? "Viola"??? (eet ees a stringed instrument like a biggair violin' date=' non?)

 

Ze French word zat means "and zair you have eet" is VOILA. Eef you're going to say eet, you should know 'ow to spell eet! [/quote']

 

"Merci bouquet"...I changed it, right after I posted...because it (finally) dawned on me, the right way to spell it!

LOL! (Old minds, are a terrible waste!)

 

CB

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There was some talk a year or so back of Epiphone being in discussion with McCartney to produce a McCartney Casino. I can't remember offhand which magazine published it, but it was in an editorial sidebar of a McCartney interview (not in the interview itself), so I don't know how much credence there is in that.

 

Gibson sold out of the USA Texans fairly quickly given their price (and only a few of the Japanese McCartney Texans are left, which is why their reissuing a non-signature version), so maybe we will see it someday....His has features that distinguish it from a standard, Elitist, or Lennon model (the headstock and trem), so from that standpoint, it makes sense for Epiphone to try and bring it to market, as it would clearly not be just another Casino with some famous person's endorsement or signature.

 

Epi quickly sold through the standard Casino with Bigsby Limited Edition (which may have satisfied some George fans), but there may be some demand for an Elitist or Lennon reissue quality issue with a Bigsby as well. I bet the Gibson ES 330 appears with a Bigsby before that, though. (Gibson also has an ES 335 with two P90's and a Bigsby, the inspiration for the recent Limited Edition Riviera, obviously).

 

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BTW what Bigsby did George have on his Casino??? Is it a B3 or a B7??? I cannot see any difference between those two Vibratos and since I really want an original Bigs on my Casino I'd like to know which one good old Georgy had on his...

 

 

Anyone know??

 

 

Nick

 

I never understood why it didn't have an Epiphone vibrato system like some other early '60s Casinos' date=' rather than a Bigbsy.

 

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Just like Keef's Casino did:

 

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Did George retro-fit a Bigsby to a regular trapeze-tailpiece Casino?

 

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