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First post....

 

I was wondering what the difference between the Epi Casino and the Epi Riviera P93 is??

 

I know the 93 has another P90 in there, but is that it?

 

I'm looking to buy, and i want to know which has more versitile tone, something that can handle rock, jazz, and alternative stuff pretty well.

 

Thanks, 19

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Ok, file this under lame, but the fact that the Beatles used the casino makes it more attractive to me. Paul even went as far as saying its his favorite guiar. I love that 'Revolver' tone (Paul's Taxman solo-if i could have sex with it, i would) what i'm sayin is, would the P93 give me a sufficient Beatlesy tone? Cuz if it doesn't quite have that same bite, maybe i'd go with the Casino

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Not lame at all. I bought my first Casino because of the Beatles and since then have owned about 5. Currently got 3. I love the look and the sound as well as the feel of the neck and the fully hollow body gives you a great natural vintage distortion if you want to use it for higher gain stuff. It can be a bit prone to feedback whereas the Riviera wouldn't have that problem so much but I've been using Casinos in various bands for 5 years and never had any problems that weren't easily resolvable. Plus you'll be able to find a Casino much more easily/cheaply.

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As an owner of both a Riviera P-93LE, and a vintage '66 Casino, I can tell you they are both Great guitars!

But, they are NOT the same. The Riviera P-93, is much closer to a 335, with P-90's in both feel and tone.

The great thing is, with the extra P-90, and the tone combinations available, you can not only get Gibson P-90

tones, but at some settings/combinations, almost Gretsch like tones, too. The center block does allow more sustain,

and less chance of feedback. It's also heavier, like a 335. The neck is much like a '60's style LP...thin but not too

thin. The Casino, has a sound all it's own. Totally hollowbody, and so prone to feedback, at higher volumes. However

that can be controlled, pretty easily. The growl and hollowbody "warmth" is terrific! Hard to describe, unless you've

experienced it. Upper fret access, is limited, as the neck joint is at the 16th fret (Vintage and Elitist) or 17th, on newer,

non-Elitist version. The Riviera has more upper fret access, as the neck joint is at the 19th fret. The P-93 has the Bigsby

vibrato, the Casino has a standard trapeze tailpiece, except for some limited editions. But, a Bigsby is reasonably easy to

install, should that be a concern. Casino is light weight, in comparison! Elitist version has "Grover" tuners, the standard

version has Epi "Kluson" clones. (Again, an easy conversion, if you want/need.)

 

So, if you can, play them both, for awhile, see which one YOU prefer. You won't go wrong, with either. But, P-93's are hard

to find, right now. For how much longer, no one seems to know.

 

Cheers,

CB

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As an owner of both a Riviera P-93LE' date=' and a vintage '66 Casino, I can tell you they are both Great guitars!

But, they are NOT the same. The Riviera P-93, is much closer to a 335, with P-90's in both feel and tone.

The great thing is, with the extra P-90, and the tone combinations available, you can not only get Gibson P-90

tones, but at some settings/combinations, almost Gretsch like tones, too. The center block does allow more sustain,

and less chance of feedback. It's also heavier, like a 335. The neck is much like a '60's style LP...thin but not too

thin. The Casino, has a sound all it's own. Totally hollowbody, and so prone to feedback, at higher volumes. However

that can be controlled, pretty easily. The growl and hollowbody "warmth" is terrific! Hard to describe, unless you've

experienced it. Upper fret access, is limited, as the neck joint is at the 16th fret (Vintage and Elitist) or 17th, on newer,

non-Elitist version. The Riviera has more upper fret access, as the neck joint is at the 19th fret. The P-93 has the Bigsby

vibrato, the Casino has a standard trapeze tailpiece, except for some limited editions. But, a Bigsby is reasonably easy to

install, should that be a concern. Casino is light weight, in comparison! Elitist version has "Grover" tuners, the standard

version has Epi "Kluson" clones. (Again, an easy conversion, if you want/need.)

 

So, if you can, play them both, for awhile, see which one YOU prefer. You won't go wrong, with either. But, P-93's are hard

to find, right now. For how much longer, no one seems to know.

 

Cheers,

CB[/quote']

 

+1 i have both too, and thats exactly right, altought the neck on the P93 kinda has a strat esc sound to me and the grestch sound is deff there with the middle pup

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Yeah' date=' i'm hoping to try them out, might have to do some traveling to to do so. I'm still thinking riviera right now, with the casino on the horizon maybe? [/quote']If you want a Riviera at all, and have the money, buy one if you have a chance. They are/were a limited edition model, and they've been sold out for a while. The Casino has been a standard model for almost thirty years, and continues to sell well - no chance of it being discontinued anytime soon.
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