thenumber19 Posted May 24, 2009 Share Posted May 24, 2009 First post.... I was wondering what the difference between the Epi Casino and the Epi Riviera P93 is?? I know the 93 has another P90 in there, but is that it? I'm looking to buy, and i want to know which has more versitile tone, something that can handle rock, jazz, and alternative stuff pretty well. Thanks, 19 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pohatu771 Posted May 24, 2009 Share Posted May 24, 2009 I could be mistaken, but the Riviera is a semi-hollow, with a center block, while the Casino is fully hollow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thenumber19 Posted May 24, 2009 Author Share Posted May 24, 2009 Forgive a stupid question, but what would that mean? Center block for more sustain, yes. But what is the advantage of a fully hollow guitar? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clarkuss Posted May 24, 2009 Share Posted May 24, 2009 Yep^^^ Plus it has Grovers and plastic covers on the pick ups which would probably make some difference to the very sensitive hearers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thenumber19 Posted May 24, 2009 Author Share Posted May 24, 2009 Ok, file this under lame, but the fact that the Beatles used the casino makes it more attractive to me. Paul even went as far as saying its his favorite guiar. I love that 'Revolver' tone (Paul's Taxman solo-if i could have sex with it, i would) what i'm sayin is, would the P93 give me a sufficient Beatlesy tone? Cuz if it doesn't quite have that same bite, maybe i'd go with the Casino Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darling67 Posted May 24, 2009 Share Posted May 24, 2009 For the Beatle sound, I'd go with the Casino. Riviera is a totally different guitar. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pohatu771 Posted May 24, 2009 Share Posted May 24, 2009 You'll have to wait for someone who owns one, for that, then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thenumber19 Posted May 24, 2009 Author Share Posted May 24, 2009 I see, i thought they would be similar in tone considering the common use of P90's and similar bodies. I would try them side by side, but the 2 guitar shops in my town don't carry gibson or its subsidaries. Boo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pohatu771 Posted May 24, 2009 Share Posted May 24, 2009 The Riviera will be impossible to find in stores, and difficult to find at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clarkuss Posted May 25, 2009 Share Posted May 25, 2009 Not lame at all. I bought my first Casino because of the Beatles and since then have owned about 5. Currently got 3. I love the look and the sound as well as the feel of the neck and the fully hollow body gives you a great natural vintage distortion if you want to use it for higher gain stuff. It can be a bit prone to feedback whereas the Riviera wouldn't have that problem so much but I've been using Casinos in various bands for 5 years and never had any problems that weren't easily resolvable. Plus you'll be able to find a Casino much more easily/cheaply. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thenumber19 Posted May 25, 2009 Author Share Posted May 25, 2009 http://guitars.musiciansfriend.com/product/Epiphone-Limited-Edition-Riviera-Custom-P93-Electric-Guitar?sku=516284 wow, that wine red is unbelievabely nice. Tough choice here... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clarkuss Posted May 25, 2009 Share Posted May 25, 2009 Yep. If they sold them over here I'd probably have bought one instead of my new Cherry Casino. Some sort of Riviera is next on my list I think. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thenumber19 Posted May 25, 2009 Author Share Posted May 25, 2009 Well i'll see if i can get the owner of the local shop (a good friend) to order the riviera for me so i can decide on my own. I'm leaning that way, and in all honesty, i'll prolly buy the casino like next year :) Thanks for the help fellas Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluelake07 Posted May 25, 2009 Share Posted May 25, 2009 Gold hardware on the Riviera...groan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
charlie brown Posted May 25, 2009 Share Posted May 25, 2009 As an owner of both a Riviera P-93LE, and a vintage '66 Casino, I can tell you they are both Great guitars! But, they are NOT the same. The Riviera P-93, is much closer to a 335, with P-90's in both feel and tone. The great thing is, with the extra P-90, and the tone combinations available, you can not only get Gibson P-90 tones, but at some settings/combinations, almost Gretsch like tones, too. The center block does allow more sustain, and less chance of feedback. It's also heavier, like a 335. The neck is much like a '60's style LP...thin but not too thin. The Casino, has a sound all it's own. Totally hollowbody, and so prone to feedback, at higher volumes. However that can be controlled, pretty easily. The growl and hollowbody "warmth" is terrific! Hard to describe, unless you've experienced it. Upper fret access, is limited, as the neck joint is at the 16th fret (Vintage and Elitist) or 17th, on newer, non-Elitist version. The Riviera has more upper fret access, as the neck joint is at the 19th fret. The P-93 has the Bigsby vibrato, the Casino has a standard trapeze tailpiece, except for some limited editions. But, a Bigsby is reasonably easy to install, should that be a concern. Casino is light weight, in comparison! Elitist version has "Grover" tuners, the standard version has Epi "Kluson" clones. (Again, an easy conversion, if you want/need.) So, if you can, play them both, for awhile, see which one YOU prefer. You won't go wrong, with either. But, P-93's are hard to find, right now. For how much longer, no one seems to know. Cheers, CB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaxHart85231281734137 Posted May 25, 2009 Share Posted May 25, 2009 As an owner of both a Riviera P-93LE' date=' and a vintage '66 Casino, I can tell you they are both Great guitars!But, they are NOT the same. The Riviera P-93, is much closer to a 335, with P-90's in both feel and tone. The great thing is, with the extra P-90, and the tone combinations available, you can not only get Gibson P-90 tones, but at some settings/combinations, almost Gretsch like tones, too. The center block does allow more sustain, and less chance of feedback. It's also heavier, like a 335. The neck is much like a '60's style LP...thin but not too thin. The Casino, has a sound all it's own. Totally hollowbody, and so prone to feedback, at higher volumes. However that can be controlled, pretty easily. The growl and hollowbody "warmth" is terrific! Hard to describe, unless you've experienced it. Upper fret access, is limited, as the neck joint is at the 16th fret (Vintage and Elitist) or 17th, on newer, non-Elitist version. The Riviera has more upper fret access, as the neck joint is at the 19th fret. The P-93 has the Bigsby vibrato, the Casino has a standard trapeze tailpiece, except for some limited editions. But, a Bigsby is reasonably easy to install, should that be a concern. Casino is light weight, in comparison! Elitist version has "Grover" tuners, the standard version has Epi "Kluson" clones. (Again, an easy conversion, if you want/need.) So, if you can, play them both, for awhile, see which one YOU prefer. You won't go wrong, with either. But, P-93's are hard to find, right now. For how much longer, no one seems to know. Cheers, CB[/quote'] +1 i have both too, and thats exactly right, altought the neck on the P93 kinda has a strat esc sound to me and the grestch sound is deff there with the middle pup Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thenumber19 Posted May 25, 2009 Author Share Posted May 25, 2009 Yeah, i'm hoping to try them out, might have to do some traveling to to do so. I'm still thinking riviera right now, with the casino on the horizon maybe? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pohatu771 Posted May 25, 2009 Share Posted May 25, 2009 Yeah' date=' i'm hoping to try them out, might have to do some traveling to to do so. I'm still thinking riviera right now, with the casino on the horizon maybe? [/quote']If you want a Riviera at all, and have the money, buy one if you have a chance. They are/were a limited edition model, and they've been sold out for a while. The Casino has been a standard model for almost thirty years, and continues to sell well - no chance of it being discontinued anytime soon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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