You Can Call Me Al Posted June 26, 2010 Share Posted June 26, 2010 Hello. I need a new amp for my Casino. I play rhythm with a 4 piece rock band & gig occasionally (small venues). My budget is about £250. I have a Marshall SG30 but it died last night. Any Suggestions? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fantana Posted June 26, 2010 Share Posted June 26, 2010 I use a Marshall VS65R for my casino and you can find good used examples for under £250, it gets me scarily close to the sound of an AC30 for half the price! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
animalfarm Posted June 26, 2010 Share Posted June 26, 2010 Don't know what max output wattage you'e going for, I'm looking at one of these for myself. May be overkill for your needs.... From: Thomann.de Fender Frontman 212, 100W GBP 185.30, Euros 222. I'm guessing you're in UK? http://www.thomann.de/gb/fender_fm212r_egitarrencombo.htm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
You Can Call Me Al Posted June 26, 2010 Author Share Posted June 26, 2010 Don't know what max output wattage you'e going for' date='I'm looking at one of these for myself. May be overkill for your needs.... From: Thomann.de Fender Frontman 212, 100W GBP 185.30, Euros 222. I'm guessing you're in UK? http://www.thomann.de/gb/fender_fm212r_egitarrencombo.htm[/quote'] Yes in UK. Looking for 50w, but 100w would be twice as good!. I'll have a look at the Fender, thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
charlie brown Posted June 26, 2010 Share Posted June 26, 2010 Fender: Deluxe Reverb (22 all tube watts, 12" speaker) any of the all tube "Hot Rod" series (Pro Jr.(15 watts 10" speaker), Blues Jr.(15 wattes/Reverb 12" speaker) HR Deluxe (40 (loud) watts , with "drive and more drive" channels/Reverb, 12" speaker and HR DeVille's (60 watts, "drive and more drive" channels/Reverb in either 4X10, or 2X12 speake combos), or of course, the amazing Twin Reverb! Current reissue version is 85 watts, two seperate channels, with Reverb and Tremelo. I use a "Blues Jr." HR Deluxe, or my Twin Reverb...depending on venue size, and "acoustics." Vox AC-15 or AC-30's are excellent, as well....our other guitar player, uses an AC-30 Top Boost. CB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wiggy Posted June 26, 2010 Share Posted June 26, 2010 £250 should score you a mint 2nd hand BC30 which should cover pretty well all your bases. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fadedepi Posted June 27, 2010 Share Posted June 27, 2010 :)..... Forgot Photo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fadedepi Posted June 27, 2010 Share Posted June 27, 2010 DescriptionSpecsReviewsSimilar Items High-quality modeling meets the acclaimed VOX Valve Reactor tube technology in this 50W 1x12. The VOX Valvetronix VT50 is a 50W combo amp that gives you 22 amp models ranging from the latest high-gain types to hard-to-find boutique and vintage amps. The VOX VT50 amplifier also boasts a full complement of effects, allowing it to cover the needs of a wide variety of styles and performance techniques. The VOX Valvetronix includes 66 preset programs, including 22 song programs that simulate the guitar sounds of famous guitarists. Even beginning players can enjoy serious guitar sound right away. The VOX Valve Reactor circuit is the key factor that separates Valvetronix amplifiers from other modeling amps. The 100% analog original power amp circuit actually has the same power amp circuit as a full-tube amp, using a 12AX7 miniature triode to reproduce a distinctive tube amp sound unattainable by digital technology. In other words, it replicates aspects that have an important influence on the sound of a tube amp, such as the power amp's class A/AB operation and the interaction of the power stage with the speaker. You get not only the response of the original amp's power amp circuitry, but also the power amp's distortion as well as the nuances and subjective sound pressure of a full-tube amp. Vox Valvetronix VT50 50W 1x12 Guitar Combo Amp Features: 50W combo amp VOX Valve Reactor circuit uses a 12AX7 to produce real tube power amp sound 22 realistic amp models are built in, ranging from the latest high-gain types to unobtainable legendary boutique amps and vintage amps 12 high-quality effects including independent reverb, rivaling the quality of dedicated units 3 banks (basic, effected, and song) are provided for each amp model, giving you a total of 66 preset programs 22 programs of "song presets" simulate the sounds of famous guitarists You can save 8 of your own edited programs Power level control allows you to adjust the output wattage of the power amp, so you can obtain that distinctive power amp distortion even at low output levels Headphone output lets you practice at home, day or night Take the versatile VT50's tube-and-modeling [/img] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
New To Strats Posted June 27, 2010 Share Posted June 27, 2010 The Roland Cube series is a fine line of excellent solid state modeling amps, highly regarded by many sources. I recently got a Cube 30X, and I'm more impressed with it evey time I use it. They may be small, and they may look like space heaters, but they pack great tone and many very good models and effects. Definitely worth checking out, along with the many other excellent recommendations you've gotten here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fadedepi Posted June 27, 2010 Share Posted June 27, 2010 Just a thought.... No one famous (that I can think of) made the Casino a sought after guitar, except one group; guess who? Their amps at the time were VOX. Faded.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
charlie brown Posted June 27, 2010 Share Posted June 27, 2010 Just a thought.... No one famous (that I can think of) made the Casino a sought after guitar' date=' except one group; guess who? Their amps at the time were VOX. Faded.... [/quote'] And, somewhat later...they were Fender (Deluxe, Deluxe Reverb, Twin Reverb, Bassman). ;>) But, you know what...any good amp (especially tube) will work, just fine, with a Casino. No "High Gain" amps, unless they have a great "clean" channel, as Casino's feed back to easily, for "High Gain" use. CB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
timddeb Posted June 27, 2010 Share Posted June 27, 2010 I need a new amp for my Casino. I play rhythm with a 4 piece rock band & gig occasionally (small venues). My budget is about £250. I have a Marshall SG30 but it died last night. Any Suggestions? dON'T KNOW MUCH ABOUT THE sg30, what is it? Probably fixable! I have tried the Roland Cube amps. I don't like them, try before you buy! For that kind of money, look out for a S/H valve jobby An off the wall solution we came up with was to buy a small valve/solid state amp with a line out, and then feed this into a discreet amp and cab. One of the units from Maplin filled the bill nicely, used an 8ohm box so the amp would have a long service life (the toroidals which power these are under specced) and for small gigs/practice you don't need to drag the whole nine yards around. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
You Can Call Me Al Posted June 27, 2010 Author Share Posted June 27, 2010 Sorry, should have been a Marshall MG30 Al Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AS90 Posted June 27, 2010 Share Posted June 27, 2010 There is a lot of buzz around the VOX AC15VR at the moment, its a solid state amp which sounds like the all tube version and is supposedly as loud as it too! I would say 15 tube watts equal 50 solid state watts. http://www.dv247.com/guitars/vox-ac15vr-guitar-amplifier-combo--69570 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fadedepi Posted June 27, 2010 Share Posted June 27, 2010 AS90, You are correct! At the time I posted the50VT, I didn't think the 15VR was in the price range. Checking further, I find it is and I'd have too agree with you 100%. Faded... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AS90 Posted June 27, 2010 Share Posted June 27, 2010 AS90' date=' You are correct! At the time I posted the50VT, I didn't think the 15VR was in the price range. Checking further, I find it is and I'd have too agree with you 100%. Faded... [/quote'] I picked up my VT30 for £139, if I had had the extra £100 at the time I would have one now. They sound great! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fadedepi Posted June 27, 2010 Share Posted June 27, 2010 And' date=' somewhat later...they were Fender (Deluxe, Deluxe Reverb, Twin Reverb, Bassman). ;>) But, you know what...any good amp (especially tube) will work, just fine, with a Casino. No "High Gain" amps, unless they have a great "clean" channel, as Casino's feed back to easily, for "High Gain" use. CB[/quote'] Hi CB, Your right too. My intent was to keep it more to the time period The Beatles were using the Casino as a main guitar. As you pointed out, later it was Fenders; but also a wider range of guitars. Faded... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ReneBoedker Posted June 27, 2010 Share Posted June 27, 2010 What kind of guitar sound do you like? I mean, you're used to the "thick" bassy sound of a Marshall, and until now Vox and Fenders are pretty much the only manufacturers that have been recommended. Generally, these have have a more trebly sound. It depends on your taste, so listen to some amps from each of the big manufacturers, and decide which you like the best. I myself prefer the Marshalls. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pohatu771 Posted June 27, 2010 Share Posted June 27, 2010 The best thing you can do, if you have access to it, is to record your guitar directly to a computer (with no amps) and put it into Guitar Rig or something similar. You can play with amps and effects to see what you want. Anyone with a Mac and iLife '09 can do it with GarageBand, if you don't have access to Guitar Rig. It's not quite as versatile, but it's certainly good enough to find what amp you're looking for. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caramello Koala Posted June 28, 2010 Share Posted June 28, 2010 Go into a guitar shop.. RIGHT NOW. And plug your casino into a the all tube Vox AC4TV. It's only 4 watts but it's bloody loud! I also have a Vox AC15 and I swear to god I can't put the master past 12 o clock (if my gains on full) or else I'll have police at my door, the AC4 on the other hand still has the ability to get freakishly loud, but it's never too loud meaning you can really push the power tubes at reasonable volumes. It has a built in attenuator so you can get play at either 4 watts, 1 watt or 1/4 watts without sacrificing any tone, which makes it ideal for practicing at home. But in my opinion it's even more ideal for recording and playing gigs at small venues. You can buy the head/cabinet or the combo (which has a custom 10" celestion speaker built in) I bought the combo as it's very light and convenient to carry around, it also doubles as a head as you can plug it into any 16ohm speaker loaded cabinet, and boy does it sound good through a 4x12 greenback loaded cabinet!!! Here's a video demonstrating the sort of sound the combo version of the amp produces Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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