midiman56 Posted January 2, 2011 Share Posted January 2, 2011 A reissue might even drive the price of the originals up because it would be relatively expensive to make them with anything near the quality of materials that were available in1978. I just don't think they would be popular due to weight, aesthetics, and sound similarity to so many other guitars. Same deal with the Epi Scroll model. But distribute the Tak doublecut worldwide and they'd have trouble making enough to satisfy demand. Just my opinion of course. Now to me, that Tak DC looks WAY more like a Les Paul that's just had some extra "surgery" on it than the Genesis. Not saying it's not a fine guitar, but I really prefer the look of your Genesis(s) than that Tak, Brian. Jim Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eggs Posted January 2, 2011 Share Posted January 2, 2011 Been jonesing for a Genesis for a long time, keep getting outbid. A reissue would depend on $$$$$$$ and build Quality. Soooooo, I went another route... It's my "Po' Man's" Genesis, but the SUCKA is built like a Freekin' Tank. Who woulda known? Cost me $110.00 on ebay, now running $179.00 - $249.00. And YES, I would buy ANOTHER for even $179.00! Jay Turser JT-200 Pro [ I bought 'Baby' cause I couldn't jag a Genesis! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brianh Posted January 2, 2011 Share Posted January 2, 2011 Now to me, that Tak DC looks WAY more like a Les Paul that's just had some extra "surgery" on it than the Genesis. That's exactly why I think the Tak would sell - 10 million LP owners can't be wrong. Many of the comments on the Facebook page include requests to change the Genesis to work and look more like an LP - V/V/T/T wiring, move the switch, change the headstock, make the horns bigger, etc. In contrast, Genesis guitars are like a screwed up luxury car that Ford tried to market to it's dealers that didn't have access to the Lincoln Continental line. The way I look at it, Genesis owners are like Edsel collectors - we think they're so ugly that they're beautiful, and we LIKE that it's an obscure, old abandoned model that invites ridicule. That's what makes them interesting, like the Epi Scroll, or the Danelectro Longhorn Bass. I bought 'Baby' cause I couldn't jag a Genesis! That's weird because I can't seem to avoid acquiring them. 4 of the 5 I have came from Craigslist; the other one was from eBay and no one bid on it. I contacted the seller and we worked out a deal offline. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Custom79 Posted January 9, 2011 Share Posted January 9, 2011 for me is gonna be a HIT!! pure beauty! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eggs Posted January 9, 2011 Share Posted January 9, 2011 for me is gonna be a HIT!! pure beauty! BUMP... just 'cause this is sooooo purdy! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
damian Posted January 10, 2011 Share Posted January 10, 2011 That's exactly why I think the Tak would sell - 10 million LP owners can't be wrong. Many of the comments on the Facebook page include requests to change the Genesis to work and look more like an LP - V/V/T/T wiring, move the switch, change the headstock, make the horns bigger, etc. In contrast, Genesis guitars are like a screwed up luxury car that Ford tried to market to it's dealers that didn't have access to the Lincoln Continental line. The way I look at it, Genesis owners are like Edsel collectors - we think they're so ugly that they're beautiful, and we LIKE that it's an obscure, old abandoned model that invites ridicule. That's what makes them interesting, like the Epi Scroll, or the Danelectro Longhorn Bass. That's weird because I can't seem to avoid acquiring them. 4 of the 5 I have came from Craigslist; the other one was from eBay and no one bid on it. I contacted the seller and we worked out a deal offline. Shockingly well said.......so right on... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
damian Posted January 10, 2011 Share Posted January 10, 2011 The only information I can find on the P-90 Specials indicates that they're also "Limited Editions", but I can't find anything about them on either Epiphone's or Gibson's websites, only on retailer websites like GC, MF, etc. I wonder how long they'll keep the '56 in production? The interesting thing with and about Epi Limited Editions is that they don't seem to actually really true Limited Runs.....They tend to make enough of them to satisfy the niches of the intended consumers...ie, I want their P-90 Goldtop, and I expect to be able to buy one new 10 months from now.......My 'buy, need' list is too long to add this Genisis re-issue, but, Epi is careful to make guitars that are quality and will sell................And as always, RaSTus is right again; drop in P-90s are readily availabe from a handful of companies.........That blue sparkle Genisis is sweet....all sparkly, and yet not gaudy at all IMHO................... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KenDen Posted February 10, 2011 Share Posted February 10, 2011 I picked up a Genesis a coupe of years ago from a music store that didn't know what they were selling. Their loss was my gain. It is the 1979 Custom with the rectangle inlays. If Gibson could re-issue this guitar again they would have a market for it. Not everyone loves to play a tank, but there are enough of us out there.....and what mahogany does for tone and sustain, WOW! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gearhead Posted February 10, 2011 Share Posted February 10, 2011 Soooooo, I went another route... It's my "Po' Man's" Genesis, but the SUCKA is built like a Freekin' Tank. Who woulda known? Cost me $110.00 on ebay, now running $179.00 - $249.00. And YES, I would buy ANOTHER for even $179.00! Jay Turser JT-200 Pro That's a good looking axe animalfarm. In fact I just bought a new one and it should be here tomorrow! How's yours sound? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brianh Posted May 4, 2011 Share Posted May 4, 2011 Bump foshizzle mah dizzle... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oopssorryy Posted May 5, 2011 Share Posted May 5, 2011 If it had four Knobs, upgraded tuners, P90s, availability in both nickel and gold hardware, and some premium color choices I think it would sell well. It would give those people that want a guitar with Humbuckers, but don't want the LP or SG, a good choice from a good brand. If they could get a bigger musician, that's on tour, to sponsor it and use it on stage, it would boost sales as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RaSTuS Posted May 5, 2011 Share Posted May 5, 2011 If they could get a bigger musician, that's on tour, to sponsor it and use it on stage, it would boost sales as well. And boost the price along with it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oopssorryy Posted May 5, 2011 Share Posted May 5, 2011 And boost the price along with it. Only if they did a custom model, which I could see them doing. The musician would almost defiantly have personal mods for it, which once the model started selling well, could be add to said musicians John Doe Genesis Custom. Base would still be base, no reason to increase price, other than because they could. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RaSTuS Posted May 5, 2011 Share Posted May 5, 2011 Only if they did a custom model, which I could see them doing. The musician would almost defiantly have personal mods for it, which once the model started selling well, could be add to said musicians John Doe Genesis Custom. Base would still be base, no reason to increase price, other than because they could. Signature models cost more, fullstop. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oopssorryy Posted May 5, 2011 Share Posted May 5, 2011 Signature models cost more, fullstop. Understood. What I am saying is you would have the base model, like in the first post, start selling it at base price before tour. During tour John Doe plays Epiphone Genesis with a few changes, promoting said guitar, and trying to make the Genesis popular. After tour release a Custom Issue guitar, while still offering the base model. In the end if everything works out well, the Genesis would have gained popularity and have two models, in two different price ranges. In my mind this would solidify the Genesis in the Epiphone line up for some time to come, and make the model profitable. Not sure were we started misunderstanding one another, sorry 'bout that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RaSTuS Posted May 5, 2011 Share Posted May 5, 2011 Understood. What I am saying is you would have the base model, like in the first post, start selling it at base price before tour. During tour John Doe plays Epiphone Genesis with a few changes, promoting said guitar. After tour release a Custom Issue guitar, while still offering the base model. In the end if everything works out well, the Genesis would have gain popularity and have two models, in two different price ranges. In my mind this would solidify the Genesis in the Epiphone line up for some time to come, and make the model profitable. Not sure were we started misunderstanding one another, sorry 'bout that. Now I agree with that, if a base model(s) were still sold and the signature was a hot-rodded (for want of a better phrase) version of that, then that would be a cool thing. Don't worry about the misunderstanding, I'm a bit slow, so it was probably my fault anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oopssorryy Posted May 5, 2011 Share Posted May 5, 2011 It's all cool, I'm trying to fix my sleep schedule by stay up for about 30 something hours (I hate waking up and watching the sun set!), so lets share the blame. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brianh Posted May 5, 2011 Share Posted May 5, 2011 If it had four Knobs, upgraded tuners, P90s, availability in both nickel and gold hardware, and some premium color choices I think it would sell well. It would give those people that want a guitar with Humbuckers, but don't want the LP or SG, a good choice from a good brand. If they could get a bigger musician, that's on tour, to sponsor it and use it on stage, it would boost sales as well. I think that this is just going to be a single "test the waters" model, not some big reissue model line. The original Genesis series only lasted for about 3 years and sold poorly, so I can't blame them for being cautious. As for the 4 knobs, P90s, and color choices, that just makes it Les Paul double cut with single coils which defeats the purpose. I hope they stick to the original PUPs, wiring, inlays, neck, headstock, and hardware. I would like to see them move the input jack to the side to reduce control cavity splintering, and the coil tap switch could be on a push/pull. Other than than, it should be a Genesis, not an LP wannabe, we've got way too many of those availble from Epi and many others already. Except a goldtop would be nice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fl00dsm0k3 Posted May 5, 2011 Share Posted May 5, 2011 if it happens im going to buy it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brianh Posted May 5, 2011 Share Posted May 5, 2011 This is kinda cool. Earlier this year I contacted the editor of the the Guitar Blue Book to point out some model/pricing snafus in the Epi Genesis section. Not only did they make the corrections, but they asked me to rewrite the descriptions in the text. The on-line version was updated in April and here's the edits (not in the current print version): Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RaSTuS Posted May 5, 2011 Share Posted May 5, 2011 This is kinda cool. Earlier this year I contacted the editor of the the Guitar Blue Book to point out some model/pricing snafus in the Epi Genesis section. Not only did they make the corrections, but they asked me to rewrite the descriptions in the text. The on-line version was updated in April and here's the edits (not in the current print version): Author, author. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dougefresh91 Posted May 6, 2011 Share Posted May 6, 2011 They look nice. I'd have to try before I buy though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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