BlueMeanie Posted March 31, 2011 Share Posted March 31, 2011 Hi guys i need some help, I have an Inspired by JL revolution casino, and the sides of my F-holes have black paint on them.. I just suspect that the original had no black paint there.. I plan to sand and remove the paint asap.. Do any of you guys have detailed close-up pics of even the original 1,965 re-issues? Those are definitely more accurate. Any advise on how i should proceed to remove the paint? I just plan to gently sand it off using 400 grit sandpaper.. Any help would be appreciated thanks! Best, Luis Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobouz Posted March 31, 2011 Share Posted March 31, 2011 Sorry no pics, but from what I recall, the originals had no black paint on the F hole edges. This is an interesting subject. I've seen the new IBJLs both with & without black paint. Elitists do not have black paint, nor did the discontinued AIUSA Lennons (generally considered to be the best Casino reproductions). Recent hollowbody Gibsons will almost always have black paint (based on my 335, 339, Tennessean, and others I've seen first hand). Sanding might prove to be a difficult proposition - you may have to sand quite a bit off to remove every speck of black paint. If it really bothers you and you're still within the return period on this instrument, you could take it back & search for one with without the paint. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueMeanie Posted April 1, 2011 Author Share Posted April 1, 2011 Sorry no pics, but from what I recall, the originals had no black paint on the F hole edges. This is an interesting subject. I've seen the new IBJLs both with & without black paint. Elitists do not have black paint, nor did the discontinued AIUSA Lennons (generally considered to be the best Casino reproductions). Recent hollowbody Gibsons will almost always have black paint (based on my 335, 339, Tennessean, and others I've seen first hand). Sanding might prove to be a difficult proposition - you may have to sand quite a bit off to remove every speck of black paint. If it really bothers you and you're still within the return period on this instrument, you could take it back & search for one with without the paint. Thanks for the reply bobouz. Well, it's too late to return it because i've had it for more than a year.. I'ts just that i never noticed it before..and it bothers me I have already started to sand some parts of the F-holes and it's looking good so far. Do i have to seal the sanded parts with clear flat paint to protect the wood or should i just leave it alone? Thanks!! Luis Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobouz Posted April 1, 2011 Share Posted April 1, 2011 I'd put a thin clear coat on it. My Elitist Casino is lightly finished on the F hole edges, and it just seems to look right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
duane v Posted April 2, 2011 Share Posted April 2, 2011 No paint on my JL REV, but IMO it would look cool if the f-holes had binding Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueMeanie Posted April 2, 2011 Author Share Posted April 2, 2011 No paint on my JL REV, but IMO it would look cool if the f-holes had binding That's funny I hate the black paint binding on mine! Sloppy work i might add.. I've managed to sand the left F-hole without any problems. The difficult part was sanding the round ends, but nothing a dremel can't do ;) After sanding i placed some lemon oil from my fast fret and Boy does it look purty! I'll post pics asap when i've done the other f-hole! Thanks guys! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pumpkinhead Posted April 2, 2011 Share Posted April 2, 2011 That's funny I hate the black paint binding on mine! Sloppy work i might add.. Funnily enough, that was one thing that put me off the IBJL Casino I tried out. The black paint was very sloppily applied. Even my wife, not one for generally noticing things on guitars said that it looked cheap and nasty! (Although she probably had a vested interest in me not buying another guitar ) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueMeanie Posted April 3, 2011 Author Share Posted April 3, 2011 Here are the pics! I used 260 grit sandpaper to remove the black paint..some parts had (white putty?) underneath the paint so i had to do some extra work with those parts.. on the F-hole edges i used a rotary tool(dremel) to help me sand those intricate curves after that i followed it up with finer sandpaper. Lastly i used the Lemon oil from my GH Fast Fret to bring out the natural wood color.. Now my Casino is a Beaut! Im proud of my work even though i'm not a trained luthier Looks a LOT BETTER in my opinion! Now to clear coat the headstock so it gets shiny just like the original. The IBJL came with a matte clearcoat Thanks for any comments! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RaSTuS Posted April 3, 2011 Share Posted April 3, 2011 Sure looks pretty good to me, much better than the black paint you described in your OP, great job BlueMeanie. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueMeanie Posted April 3, 2011 Author Share Posted April 3, 2011 Sure looks pretty good to me, much better than the black paint you described in your OP, great job BlueMeanie. Thanks very much! I hope that other owners of the IBJL can get an idea Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob R Posted April 3, 2011 Share Posted April 3, 2011 Nice work I think I would have been scared to bring a dremel so close to the face of my guitar I did just add a couple pick ups to a bass,I used a dremel to router out the pick up cavities, but it was cheap and if I slipped I didn't care, it's going to get painted later any way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobouz Posted April 3, 2011 Share Posted April 3, 2011 Looks great! Much nicer than the black paint. Let us know how things work out with the headstock. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RockinRobert Posted April 4, 2011 Share Posted April 4, 2011 Very nice work on the f-holes! Here is a pic of my Dot where they didn't even compltely paint the whole F-hole. Doesn't bother me too much as it just needs a bit o paint to correct it. I really like your natural look, but don't know if it would look out of place on my dark sunburst. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueMeanie Posted April 4, 2011 Author Share Posted April 4, 2011 Thanks a LOT guys! Coming from y'all here on the boards it's a huge compliment! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blofeld Posted April 4, 2011 Share Posted April 4, 2011 You've done a great job with that. I've been tempted to do it to my standard sunburst, but put off by the problem of matching the bare wood to the paint colour and finish. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
duane v Posted April 4, 2011 Share Posted April 4, 2011 Wish I could have seen the before images.... I'm so used to looking at my 50's Musina archtop with the bound f-holes that my Casino looks unfinished in comparison ..... But your Casino looks exactly like mine now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigneil Posted April 4, 2011 Share Posted April 4, 2011 I you have done a good job too, looks much better than the black edges. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weeladdie Posted April 4, 2011 Share Posted April 4, 2011 Looks good! Makes me wonder how my 339 would look sanded down, instead of what looks like black magic marker on the edges. Only other comment I could make is that the top's laminations are visible now, maybe a touch up with a beige paint (from a hobby shop) would hide that and match the rest of the wood..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DoubleWide Revival Posted April 4, 2011 Share Posted April 4, 2011 Looks great! And you have a ton of stones. I agree woth Rob, I wouldn't bring a dremel in the same room with my guitar. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueMeanie Posted April 5, 2011 Author Share Posted April 5, 2011 Wish I could have seen the before images.... Here ya go But your Casino looks exactly like mine now. Thanks very much! So grateful for the compliment! Only other comment I could make is that the top's laminations are visible now, maybe a touch up with a beige paint (from a hobby shop) would hide that and match the rest of the wood..... I thought the IBJL line was not laminated? As i understand it's just like the real thing where the wood is 5 ply Maple,birch,maple,birch,Maple.. I thought that was what i was seeing when i was sanding it down.. Looks great! And you have a ton of stones. I agree woth Rob, I wouldn't bring a dremel in the same room with my guitar. I know what you mean..But i've got pretty steady hands since my other hobbies are scale models, I join yearly IPMS contests in Sci-fi divisions AGAIN THANKS GUYS!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RaSTuS Posted April 5, 2011 Share Posted April 5, 2011 I thought the IBJL line was not laminated? As i understand it's just like the real thing where the wood is 5 ply Maple,birch,maple,birch,Maple.. I thought that was what i was seeing when i was sanding it down.. I think ply and laminated are the same thing in this context BM. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueMeanie Posted April 5, 2011 Author Share Posted April 5, 2011 I think ply and laminated are the same thing in this context BM. :) Oh yeah.. my bad What was i thinking? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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