mydeadblues Posted November 3, 2011 Share Posted November 3, 2011 Does epiphone make a version of p94 pickups, or are they strictly gibson pickups? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EpiEric Posted November 3, 2011 Share Posted November 3, 2011 Actual P94s are strictly Gibson pickups. The Epiphone Nick Valensi Riviera has P94s, but they're the real deal Gibsons. Seymour Duncan and Guitar Fetish both make aftermarket variations. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mydeadblues Posted November 3, 2011 Author Share Posted November 3, 2011 Actual P94s are strictly Gibson pickups. The Epiphone Nick Valensi Riviera has P94s, but they're the real deal Gibsons. Seymour Duncan and Guitar Fetish both make aftermarket variations. Looks like I just got some Gibson P94 for $50!!! http://www.ebay.com/itm/Used-IMPORT-Epiphone-P94-Pickups-Humbucker-sized-P90s-/260886209707?pt=Guitar_Accessories&hash=item3cbe07a4ab#ht_500wt_1120 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brianh Posted November 4, 2011 Share Posted November 4, 2011 You suck! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
damian Posted November 4, 2011 Share Posted November 4, 2011 You suck! :unsure: [lol] [lol] ...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EpiEric Posted November 4, 2011 Share Posted November 4, 2011 Great deal. I bet those came out of a Valensi and the seller doesn't realize that they're actually Gibson P-94s. I'd assume they're wired with the Epiphone quick connectors for installation at the Epi factory. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blueman335 Posted November 4, 2011 Share Posted November 4, 2011 GFS has the Mean 90 set (not Dream 90) that get rave reviews on the Duncan Forum. You ought to get a pair if you're wanting P-90's in an humbucker guitar. You can also have a P-90 neck and a humbucker bridge, which gives you the best of both worlds. I've done that in Dots and SG's. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mydeadblues Posted November 5, 2011 Author Share Posted November 5, 2011 EpiEric, I Was thinking the same thing when I saw them listed, I asked the guy what kind of Epi they came out of and sure enough he said a nick valensi riviera. If you saw my other post about upgrading my riviera youd know I have actually been looking for some good Gibson pups so wow what perfect timing! I hope installing them won't be too difficult, the guy said they still have the proprietary clips for Epi guitars....I'm not really sure what that means until I see them or get pictures. I'm also not sure how to figure out which is the bridge and which is the neck pup if theyre not labeled. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Supersonic Posted November 5, 2011 Share Posted November 5, 2011 GFS has the Mean 90 set (not Dream 90) that get rave reviews on the Duncan Forum. You ought to get a pair if you're wanting P-90's in an humbucker guitar. Why would he want to get those when he just got a pair of Gibson P94's? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lefty Bill Posted November 5, 2011 Share Posted November 5, 2011 I'm not exactly sure about these specific pickups, but with many aftermarket and Epiphone factory pickups, the poles on the neck pickup are closer together than the poles on the bridge pickup (of the same set, at least) since the strings are getting closer together as they get to the nut. Typical pole spacing for Epiphone pickups are 50mm neck and 52mm bridge (measured center-to-center of the outer poles). I believe the clip mentioned would be the small cable connector located at the ends of the pickups' leads, which is how newer models are wired (plugged in) to the circuit board in the control cavity.. no soldering required if your guitar is a newer model which has a circuit board, instead of point-to-point soldered wire connections (common to most older models and various brands). Regards, Bill EpiEric, I Was thinking the same thing when I saw them listed, I asked the guy what kind of Epi they came out of and sure enough he said a nick valensi riviera. If you saw my other post about upgrading my riviera youd know I have actually been looking for some good Gibson pups so wow what perfect timing! I hope installing them won't be too difficult, the guy said they still have the proprietary clips for Epi guitars....I'm not really sure what that means until I see them or get pictures. I'm also not sure how to figure out which is the bridge and which is the neck pup if theyre not labeled. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mud guy Posted November 5, 2011 Share Posted November 5, 2011 Looks like I just got some Gibson P94 for $50!!! http://www.ebay.com/itm/Used-IMPORT-Epiphone-P94-Pickups-Humbucker-sized-P90s-/260886209707?pt=Guitar_Accessories&hash=item3cbe07a4ab#ht_500wt_1120 That's a smoking deal! Congrats Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mydeadblues Posted November 5, 2011 Author Share Posted November 5, 2011 I'm not exactly sure about these specific pickups, but with many aftermarket and Epiphone factory pickups, the poles on the neck pickup are closer together than the poles on the bridge pickup (of the same set, at least) since the strings are getting closer together as they get to the nut. Typical pole spacing for Epiphone pickups are 50mm neck and 52mm bridge (measured center-to-center of the outer poles). I believe the clip mentioned would be the small cable connector located at the ends of the pickups' leads, which is how newer models are wired (plugged in) to the circuit board in the control cavity.. no soldering required if your guitar is a newer model which has a circuit board, instead of point-to-point soldered wire connections (common to most older models and various brands). Regards, Bill Thanks for all the info Bill! I have a 97' riviera so I probably have to do a little soldering. I'll definitely measure the pole spacing before hand though! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brianh Posted November 5, 2011 Share Posted November 5, 2011 Thanks for all the info Bill! I have a 97' riviera so I probably have to do a little soldering. I'll definitely measure the pole spacing before hand though! If I'm not mistaken, the "R" and "T" designations (rhythm and treble) on the P94s indicate opposite magnetic polarity and opposite winding so you get hum cancelling when the 3-way switch is in the middle position. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mydeadblues Posted November 6, 2011 Author Share Posted November 6, 2011 If I'm not mistaken, the "R" and "T" designations (rhythm and treble) on the P94s indicate opposite magnetic polarity and opposite winding so you get hum cancelling when the 3-way switch is in the middle position. Awesome, I hope they're labeled! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mydeadblues Posted November 8, 2011 Author Share Posted November 8, 2011 The pups just came in the mail today. They both have a "B" on the back of the pickups toward the lower right, is this normal? I'm not sure what the "B" stands for I'm not sure which is the bridge and which is the neck, I haven't got a chance to measure them but one is labeled "8.67" and the other "8.63." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jfine Posted November 8, 2011 Share Posted November 8, 2011 There's not going to be much difference between them, but I'd put the slightly hotter one in the bridge position. BTW, the R stands for "rhythm", or neck position, and the T is for "treble", or bridge position. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mydeadblues Posted November 8, 2011 Author Share Posted November 8, 2011 There's not going to be much difference between them, but I'd put the slightly hotter one in the bridge position. BTW, the R stands for "rhythm", or neck position, and the T is for "treble", or bridge position. I don't see a R or a T, both pups have B's? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brianh Posted November 8, 2011 Share Posted November 8, 2011 I don't think those are Gibson OR Epiphone P94s. Here are some pics of the 2 P94s I have. New in box: Old, pulled out of a Gibson: If I had to guess, I'd say what you have there is a pair of GFS Dream 90s: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EpiEric Posted November 8, 2011 Share Posted November 8, 2011 I don't have any P94s to compare to, but judging by BrianHs photos, those sure look like the GFS pickups by comparison. It looks like there's some heat shrink on the leads. I wonder if someone spliced on the Epiphone connectors? Dream 90s are $29.99 each new. So I guess when you add in shipping, you paid about the same price as new for the pair. That might not be an awful thing, but if they are GFS pickups, I think the ad is misleading if the seller really knew what he had. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mydeadblues Posted November 8, 2011 Author Share Posted November 8, 2011 Ya I started to suspect they were not Gibson pups after I got them, he was definitely misleading so I'm probably going to try to return them. Damn I was really looking forward to some good Gibson pickups! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brianh Posted November 8, 2011 Share Posted November 8, 2011 Yeah, bummer. That would have been a sweet deal. That's why they call it SleazeBay. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mydeadblues Posted November 9, 2011 Author Share Posted November 9, 2011 Yeah, bummer. That would have been a sweet deal. That's why they call it SleazeBay. Yes indeed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HarpBoy Posted November 17, 2011 Share Posted November 17, 2011 Ya I started to suspect they were not Gibson pups after I got them, he was definitely misleading so I'm probably going to try to return them. Damn I was really looking forward to some good Gibson pickups! Yes, they are not Gibson P94s, and they probably didn't come out of a Valensi. Here's a closeup of my Valensi showing the pickups: Cheers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CajunBlues Posted December 2, 2011 Share Posted December 2, 2011 Yeah, those rounded edges on the pickups you bought tell the story.... definitely not Gibson 94's Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrw1960 Posted December 3, 2011 Share Posted December 3, 2011 Check the Mean 90's from GFS. Super hot pups. I just installed one in the bridge of my HSS Strat. Not a 94 but NICE for a humbucking sized 90.Sweet fat,warm tone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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