Das Vagabund Posted December 18, 2011 Share Posted December 18, 2011 is it only the epi version that they decided to do this with? if they were gonna keep spittin them out then why did they advertise as "only 1000 produced worldwide"? this is my first experience with epiphone/gibson and it is gettin sour by the minute! i got the guitar as a christmas present and got it to play not for collection purposes but to boldly lie to the consumer and then strip it of value is beyond me. i believe that every registered buyer of the original 1000 epiphones should be given an official explanation of why this has happened. don't know if the gibsons are gonna be re-produced but i bet not. it is probably only happening to the epi's BECAUSE they are epi's!!! mind you i love the guitar and am gonna play the hell out of it but i don't think i will buy anymore from the company. what a bummer!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RaSTuS Posted December 18, 2011 Share Posted December 18, 2011 They can't do an extended run without Joe's permission, he has to sign-off on any guitars bearing his name I would imagine, not shifting blame, just saying. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Das Vagabund Posted December 18, 2011 Author Share Posted December 18, 2011 it just makes me feel like the ugly girl behind the bleachers if you get my drift. i decided on the guitar for 1)the artist 2)the components and 3)because i always wanted a Les Paul. but the claim there would only 1000 of these guitars was the clincher! they could have easily called it a Joe Bonamassa Signature model and had the same results... people would have still swallowed them up because of Mr. Bonamassa alone. bottom line they should never have said "only 1000 produced worldwide" if there was any possibility there would be additional runs. i feel that i have been lied too and i am not alone... i know there are many others that are gonna feel that way too! sry. not tryin to sling mud but it is a crappy deal we've been dealt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Das Vagabund Posted December 18, 2011 Author Share Posted December 18, 2011 well i hope they get one and enjoy it as much as i am enjoying mine! damn sure worth the $$$ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barcham Posted December 18, 2011 Share Posted December 18, 2011 They can't do an extended run without Joe's permission, he has to sign-off on any guitars bearing his name I would imagine, not shifting blame, just saying. Bonamassa may be a great guitarist but he's also really heavy into selling anything and everything he can with his name on it. He has beanies, t-shirts, hoodies, bobblehead dolls...right up to an overpriced signature wah pedal. If he can make a buck off it, he'll put his name on it. If the second run sells out, it wouldn't surprise me to see a third run or even a fourth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gary Moore Tribute Posted December 18, 2011 Share Posted December 18, 2011 Heres a kick in the nuts for the 1st 1,000 Buyers, the 2nd run come with this Just remind people this is how the first 1,000 came... Hate to say, that annoys me... According to that date stamp they started the 2nd run in JULY 2011 so the 2nd run was very quickly organised after the 1st... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brianh Posted December 18, 2011 Share Posted December 18, 2011 well i hope they get one and enjoy it as much as i am enjoying mine! damn sure worth the $$$ There you go. It's just business when it comes to mass produced guitars. Epis may never be collectible investments, just enjoy them for what they are - affordable, authorized replicas. I dig all of mine, thank you Gibson for letting me play my dream guitars without going bankrupt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gary Moore Tribute Posted December 18, 2011 Share Posted December 18, 2011 Just to balance the argument these JB's are EXCELLENT value for £500 theirs definately no denying that and most players will love them for their weight, gibson hardware & awesome looks. But as more are made, their value is certain to drop a tad but hey whats the point of not playing it... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete B Posted December 18, 2011 Share Posted December 18, 2011 Hmm the only reason that I heard of Joe Bonamassa is theres an Epi with his name on, same as Zak Wilde And I hate gold paint too Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Das Vagabund Posted December 19, 2011 Author Share Posted December 19, 2011 now this is almost funny! and to think i was bummed this morn when i saw that the 2nd run is available. here's the thing... on my end anyway... i recieved my Epi JBLP in October. it came with the certificate folder so if only the 2nd run get the nicer certificate package... mine IS a 2nd run. i was led to believe by the salesman that it was of the "only 1000 produced" although it was not in fact. (maybe the salesman was not up to speed on the facts) now that's twisted... (: again... bottom line it don't matter. it's a great guitar for the money... play 'em in good health! but to gibson/epiphone and to musician's friend i say... it didn't have to be all that i am sorry if i ruffled anyone's feathers unduly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RaSTuS Posted December 19, 2011 Share Posted December 19, 2011 no denying that and most players will love them for their ...... awesome looks. Not sure about that, most discussions here have shown that many like the hardware specs but disliked the look of them, the looks seemed to be the biggest let down of JBs for the vast majority. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gary Moore Tribute Posted December 19, 2011 Share Posted December 19, 2011 Gold tops aren't for everyone I guess Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RaSTuS Posted December 19, 2011 Share Posted December 19, 2011 Gold tops aren't for everyone I guess I love goldtops, that's the main reason I don't like the bonamassa, it's not a true goldtop, with all the black plastic and solid black back, a true goldtop has a transparent back so you can see the wood grain, and the ones I like best are cherry stained on the back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chipwich Posted December 30, 2011 Share Posted December 30, 2011 I wonder if they still are only 1000, and maybe the "2nd" run is just completing the build of the first 1000. The reason that I ask is because I just received mine 2 days ago from GC, and the S/N shows the build in July. Anyone know for sure? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jfine Posted December 30, 2011 Share Posted December 30, 2011 Here's the deal. Do you buy a guitar to collect or to play? If you buy it to collect, you'd better put it in the case and not touch it--gotta keep it mint, you know! What's that? You've been playing it? There goes your collector's value right out the window. If you bought it to play, enjoy it and don't worry about any collector's value it may or may not have. Guitars are made to be played, after all. Regarding Joe's merchandising, have you noticed how much radio and TV exposure he's getting? Not a whole lot, compared to pop artists like Lady Gaga, and he probably gets little or no tour support from his record label. He's got to get the money from somewhere to go on the road, which isn't cheap--to promote his career so he can (hopefully) make a living. I used to make my living playing full-time, but those days are long-gone--people don't seem to feel that musicians need to eat and pay rent like anybody else! Truth be told, I'm not crazy about black trim on a goldtop either, but his own guitar is like that, whether factory-original or not, I don't know, but I've seen a picture of Jeff Beck playing one just like it with the Yardbirds circa 1966, so it could be. Regardless, I'd think you'd want a Joe Bonamassa model to resemble the one that he actually plays--if you really don't like the black parts, they're pretty easily replaced. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Supersonic Posted December 30, 2011 Share Posted December 30, 2011 Here's the deal. Do you buy a guitar to collect or to play? If you buy it to collect, you'd better put it in the case and not touch it--gotta keep it mint, you know! What's that? You've been playing it? There goes your collector's value right out the window. If you bought it to play, enjoy it and don't worry about any collector's value it may or may not have. Guitars are made to be played, after all. Regarding Joe's merchandising, have you noticed how much radio and TV exposure he's getting? Not a whole lot, compared to pop artists like Lady Gaga, and he probably gets little or no tour support from his record label. He's got to get the money from somewhere to go on the road, which isn't cheap--to promote his career so he can (hopefully) make a living. Let me begin by saying that I do not like this guitar, don't want one, and I do not really care for Joe B's music. I would much rather have one of Epi's other higher end LP's with the same electronics, but without the ugly (IMO) cosmetics. That being said, I don't really understand your post. It's not like people thought this guitar was like a vintage Gibson that would eventually put someone's kids through college or something. I think the thing that is upsetting some people is the fact that it was stated by the company that only a certain number would be produced. That probably is a big reason why people snatched them up so fast. Not necessarily because they thought it was some great collectors item, but because, unlike the many other "limited edition" Epi models that there seem to be a never ending supply of, this one had a production run that was specified so maybe they wanted them before they were gone. I know someone with a John Lennon Revolution 1965 Casino (1,965 models produced I think?) and he bought it to play and he plays it all the time rather than just leaving it in a case because it's "special", but I'm pretty sure he'd be pissed if they just started making them again and I wouldn't blame him. The fact that "they don't make 'em anymore" IS kinda cool for some people and that shouldn't be taken away because a company wants to make more money. You asked if people "buy a guitar to collect or to play?". Maybe in some cases it can be both. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chipwich Posted December 30, 2011 Share Posted December 30, 2011 He-he, in keeping with the black on gold theme, I've already ordered black bell knobs for mine. I don't really care if it is a Bonamassa signature or not. What appealed to me was getting a high end Epi LP with Burstbuckers for a great price with the current 15% discounts given these days. If one day I should decided to sell it and the JB parts help maintain its value, then all the better. I don't think that a serious collector would invest in an Epiphone anything (dones fire retardant suit). Epis are fantastic guitar values. They allow me to own and play more axes than I normally would. IMO, we have now sort of a perfect storm with baby and post baby boomers who grew up on rock and roll, now at the peak of their income abilities, having access to all of these great inexpensive guitars. One poster in another thread wrote that "it's raining Epiphones", and he's right. The Bonamassa guitars stand on their own, no matter what is printed on the truss rod cover. I just mentioned my serial number to offer another possible reason for the 2nd run announcement to those who are concerned about it. Only someone at Epiphone would be able to shed light on the reason. It makes no difference to me personally, other than getting one great Les Paul at 15% off (yehaaa!). Now if Epi would make an ES339 Pro (not the Ultra) in Pelham blue, ka-ching. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
damian Posted December 31, 2011 Share Posted December 31, 2011 No worries..........There will be the first run of JB reissues, and the second run of JB rissues............. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
budglo Posted December 31, 2011 Share Posted December 31, 2011 Looking at it , it seems like alot of guitar for the money.Quite a few upgrades to be had .I believe this guitar is designed to be a players guitar and nothing more, same as the Gibson Studio version. Neither of these will be "collector guitars". For collector guitars you have to really go up the food chain quite a bit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wbg Posted January 2, 2012 Share Posted January 2, 2012 No worries..........There will be the first run of JB reissues, and the second run of JB rissues............. I have one of the original issues and wow! I read the fine print before I bought it. Imagine that! Well The second run is actually better! It has a lock tone bridge where the 1st thousand did not. Why complain unless you are a coolector? I play all of my guitars! That is why I bought them. BGB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chipwich Posted January 2, 2012 Share Posted January 2, 2012 I have one of the original issues and wow! I read the fine print before I bought it. Imagine that! Well The second run is actually better! It has a lock tone bridge where the 1st thousand did not. Why complain unless you are a coolector? I play all of my guitars! That is why I bought them. BGB You sure? The original specs state a LockTone Tune-o-matic bridge. Mine was made 7/2011 and has one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
atkinsg Posted January 3, 2012 Share Posted January 3, 2012 I picked one up at LM in ottawa for $519 over the xmas holidays that was classed as a "used" item . Tag said "used" but I cant find a mark on it anywhere or anything to indicate is was used except for the plastic is off the pickguard. Quality is spot on, I cant find any flaws, setup was perfect. I had ordered a different guitar but cancelled once I picked this one up. Its a first run model as it has the cheapo cert vs the nice one. doesnt matter, im keepin it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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