gtgtgt Posted September 4, 2011 Share Posted September 4, 2011 so not sure cause got it cheap didnt pay yet,just before i wat to see if its real got serial for it looks ok EE07097311 thats what the seller gave me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gtgtgt Posted September 4, 2011 Author Share Posted September 4, 2011 pics Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LSAR Posted September 4, 2011 Share Posted September 4, 2011 Headstock looks too long, pickguard looks wrong to me... I wouldn't do it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rubyred Posted September 4, 2011 Share Posted September 4, 2011 from guitar dater your serial shows this. Your guitar was made at theQingdao Plant (Epiphone), China September 2007 Production Number: 7311 from the official gibson site Gibson site - LP silverburst Ltd Ed from the Epiphone site under special runs epiphone site The head does look longer - but it could be the angle of the Photo - ask for more photos. The stamp on the back of the headstock looks like the Epiphone custom shop logo/stamp - I have this on my Ltd Ed Wildkat (metallic red) - as it wasn`t a normal colour offered with the range see link to Epiphone news 2005 RE Wildkat colour Epiphone news RE Wildkat Colour I guess unless it is inspected it will be difficult to answer you question - i for one do not have that much knowledge on the counterfeit guitar stuff. I hope something in this post was of some use. cheers from downunder Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Supersonic Posted September 4, 2011 Share Posted September 4, 2011 I'm no expert at spotting fakes, but this one looks very suspicious to even me. Is the "EE" part of the serial number bigger than the rest of the serial number? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IanMak3103 Posted September 4, 2011 Share Posted September 4, 2011 I'm not a very experienced person in identifying fake guitars, too! But for the past period that I have been searching for this guitar, my experiences tells me that 90+% of the ones you find on ebay, are most likely to be fakes, especially the ones that keeps telling you they are brand new! As far as I know, they've stop producing this guitar since 2009, and this has been a very very very popular guitar, they sell quick! So if you can still find some saying brand new, and they stated that they've received it from the China factory, beware! They are usually the fake ones! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barcham Posted September 4, 2011 Share Posted September 4, 2011 It is impossible to tell anything from those pictures. Need a close up of the serial number and the front of the headstock as well as some straight on shots of the body. If you bought it through ebay, make sure you pay using Paypal. This way you can get your money back if it turns out to be a fake. If you found it on any other site, I would cancel it just due to the poor quality of the pics and the impossibility of having it verified unless the seller is willing to provide better pics. There are just too many fakes of this model out there to take a chance if you aren't sure of getting your money back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eggs Posted September 5, 2011 Share Posted September 5, 2011 Snap!!! http://forum.gibson.com/index.php?/topic/73433-epiphone-studio-silverburst/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gtgtgt Posted September 5, 2011 Author Share Posted September 5, 2011 thanks for the help yea waiting for answers from gibson/epipone to see if tey know about this one Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fl00dsm0k3 Posted September 5, 2011 Share Posted September 5, 2011 fake Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gtgtgt Posted September 6, 2011 Author Share Posted September 6, 2011 Explain ......... x2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
animalfarm Posted September 6, 2011 Share Posted September 6, 2011 The lighting, though "Dramatic", does tend to wash out the binding in the pic, and cast shadows. I did a LOT of research in general on EPI LPs using MF Website pics, Epi Website pics, and Ebay pics. (several of you received PMs from me regarding this) Based ONLY on pics provided - it LOOKS genuine. Obviously, I cannot see the listing, what was described, HOW it was described, etc. What I need to know is more info about the SELLER. 1. Location of seller? 2. Shipping Company used? 3. Location of guitar (where will it ship from)? 4. Seller's Ebay rating and feedbacks as a SELLER. 5. Will you receive the guitar in it's "Original" packaging? Was it sold as new, used with pkging, or other? (If made in 2007, having "original" packaging will be a bit odd...). 6. Does the seller move LOTS of guitars, or it this just a one-sie or two-sie sale? (If seller DOES move lots, can you go and LOOK at recent items sold?) 7. Duration of listing? Long-term or a fast 2 or 3 day in and out? THIS is where the clues I need are in order to make a better decision. Folks, without going into great detail - take TOO long - we have reached a point where it is necessary to research the SELLER just as much as it it necessary to look at the pics. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gtgtgt Posted September 7, 2011 Author Share Posted September 7, 2011 So waiting for more pics from the seller. Listing was for a week,his only guitar,good feedback with other items.also waiting for pics to send to gibson for help. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
animalfarm Posted September 7, 2011 Share Posted September 7, 2011 So waiting for more pics from the seller. 1. Listing was for a week 2. his only guitar 3. good feedback with other items also waiting for pics to send to gibson for help. I need to research SELLER to see past history. What part of the world are you in? I tried to look up "Completed Listings" on US ebay, but didn't see it. May have had the "Title of the listing" wrong. Something like: Epiphone Les Paul Custom Silverburst? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gtgtgt Posted September 7, 2011 Author Share Posted September 7, 2011 I'm in australia Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RaSTuS Posted September 7, 2011 Share Posted September 7, 2011 I'm in australia You lucky bugger. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gtgtgt Posted September 7, 2011 Author Share Posted September 7, 2011 The pics And she's sayn I gots 12 hours to pay if I want it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
animalfarm Posted September 7, 2011 Share Posted September 7, 2011 Hey, Brother!!!! THIS IS WHY WE RESEARCH THE SELLER!!!!!! Get out of the Deal if you can!!!! All I needed to know was WHERE you were - I looked up the listing, definitely says "Used". NOW IT STARTS TO STINK..... I checked out the seller's FEEDBACK as a Seller: Between 01 April 2011 and 26 Aug 2011 the "Individual" has sold: Four Epiphone Les Paul Black Beauty Guitars Four Epiphone Les Paul Silverburst Guitars Four Epiphone Zakk Wylde Bullseye Les Paul Guitars One Epiphone Alpine White Les Paul Guitar WAY too many for your average player to have laying around, and sadly these are the FAVORITES for the fakers to move onto the market. Only companies with deep pockets can hold that much stock - Gibson/Epiphone requires an initial investment of at least $100,000.00 in guitars BEFORE they'll even ship product to you if you want to be a distibutor. Most likely the seller has a source of "Not-Reals" in Hong Kong. WOW, they're getting better and better. Pictures can fool you, BUT the "Paper Trail" reveals ALL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eggs Posted September 7, 2011 Share Posted September 7, 2011 Agreed AF... & all that was after they changed there seller name twice... & they are also peddling an interesting side line in 'Pandora' jewellery in significant quantities... which is also a 'something other than original' favourite out of Hong Kong. Cheers, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gtgtgt Posted September 7, 2011 Author Share Posted September 7, 2011 Thanks!! Yea I only see now the old guitars they sold.after she said it was the only one.ebay should reaLy do something about it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eggs Posted September 7, 2011 Share Posted September 7, 2011 gtgtgt, I've sent you a PM (cc: AF) Cheers, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vomer Posted September 7, 2011 Share Posted September 7, 2011 That looks like an improvement on previous fakes we've seen. Anyone see any detail that's off? I'm not doubting AF's reasoning at all, just that it might be a real one used for pic purposes, or fakes have suddenly improved. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
animalfarm Posted September 8, 2011 Share Posted September 8, 2011 That looks like an improvement on previous fakes we've seen. Anyone see any detail that's off? I'm not doubting AF's reasoning at all, just that it might be a real one used for pic purposes, or fakes have suddenly improved. You've hit the nail on the head, Vomer. Remember the cryptic PM alluded to previously? Well, Detective Muffins contacted a "Dis-satisfied" customer and asked: "What was the nature of the problem you had with the Epi Black Beauty you purchased from 'unmentioned seller' please." Response from "Customer": "The Epi was not as described, had fake pics on the auction page and was completely different when i received it." "The seller claimed to have listed it on behalf of a 3rd party seller but I told him that he would have checked it before listing it. I returned it to the seller and got a full refund through paypal as well as the return postage fee, honestly it seemed too good to be true and it was." "I wouldn't buy from this seller again however your experience may differ, be sure that you know how to spot a fake." HENCE, Research the sellers history for unusual amounts of GIT SELLING as if they had a distributorship. Seems a STANDARD TACTIC is to post pics of REAL GIT, then send Garbage. Hence, AGAIN, research the SELLER! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eggs Posted September 8, 2011 Share Posted September 8, 2011 On the up side... This 'unmentioned seller' does sell some red-hot lingerie if anyone is in the market Lingerie + geets... & I'm thinkin' (again ) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IanMak3103 Posted September 8, 2011 Share Posted September 8, 2011 *Sigh*~ There are just so many fakes out there on the bay, making it very hard for newbies to identify. I almost fell into the trap once, and was fortunate enough to be able to pull back the bid, thanks to these forums which has provided very useful information in watching for counterfeiters! However, the Australian market is making it very expensive to buy, as they have high import tax and shipping fees included in the price. Yet, for my first les paul, I personally would still prefer to pay that extra dollars, in making sure my first beloved guitar is a genuine one. After all, it's my hard earn money, didn't want to waste it, nor keep having nightmares that it might be a fake. Anyway, it's my own opinion & approach. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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