sunking101

My 2019 LP Standard has am almost black rosewood fingerboard whilst my 2020 Custom Shop 1957 reissue has a much lighter 'Indian Rosewood' fretboard. So it isn't like they are saving the darker stuff for the more expensive guitars as some have speculated.

It's up to you whether you deem it unacceptable at that price point. The flaws in your photos are fairly standard for Gibson. My R7 which cost roughly double isn't perfect either.

I've had my R7 a whole 3 days and already the pickup switch has left a hole in the inside of the case lid. The guitar shipped with the switch tip removed and a round padded piece of felt pushed onto the screw threads. Are you supposed to remove the switch tip every time you put the guitar back in the case?? The lid shuts perfectly, I guess that the material in the lid isn't strong enough to take the impression of the switch?

I bought a right-hander new in January of this year. Great neck, really chunky. Nice build quality (but I know that's always a bit of a crapshoot) and retro looks. Sounds fab and I love it.

Why not try the 60s Standard too? It has hotter pickups than the 50s and a slimmer neck. Never mind the push/pull pots if you like the Classic. Don't pull 'em out! What's wrong with more tones? The PCB is fine too. It doesn't affect the sound and if it ever goes wonky in 20 years' time just swap it for a good old fashioned wiring loom.

21 years old v nearly new.... Do you want wear & tear and a probable fret dress requirement? The Custom is slightly cooler however condition to me would be paramount. It will probably have a knackered old hardcase too.

Thankyou. That's the kind of reply I was hoping for.

What basic concept don't I understand? When creating my post I was hoping that either a few people with 2020 335s would chime in and say that theirs were like that too.....or someone would be able to explain why my 2018 335 has flush fitting control knobs when my 2020 model doesn't. I'm not sure why my post is seen as being pathetic or somehow unnecessary? I think the high knobs look kinda goofy, like they aren't pressed down onto the pots properly. If you're fine with that look then more power to you. I think it looks sub-optimal but hey, maybe I'm being overly picky on a £2600 instrument?

I take from your reply that: Gibson make some knobs that fit correctly and some that don't? There is an inconsistency when fitting pots in the factory which nobody on this board is bothered about. You didn't realise that I was replying to that last specific poster who said that I should be ignored. I wasn't stating that nobody has replied, duh.

I have just bought a very expensive guitar which has volume & tone knobs positioned much higher than on ANY of my other Gibsons and also on my other 335. I was asking the reason for this and nobody seems to know. Some are and some aren't isn't the kind of answer I was looking for. Surely there should be some kind of consistency at the factory? No it's not a dealbreaker at all but yes, the 335 with control knobs that are flush looks all the better for it. As it's such a monumental task to adjust something like this on a 335 I was merely asking if it's more of a norm to have high knobs. If mine is an anomaly then I would be slightly aggrieved. Nobody has yet managed to offer any explanation as to why the control knobs are flush with the guitar body on my 2018 335. What did the factory do differently...and why didn't they do the same on my 2020 model? I'm failing to see why this is such a crazy question not worthy of reply?

So back to my original question, are high knobs the norm on a 335? Your comment would suggest that they are and yet I have a 335 that came direct from Gibson with knobs that are optimally flush with the top. So what is the reason for this? Shorter pot shafts? Spacers? The knobs have a deeper recess?

The current 2020 models have thick C shaped necks.

Whilst in no way is it a dealbreaker (I love the guitar) I was just curious why my other 335 and LPs have control knobs as flush with the tops as you would expect and yet my new 335 has them sitting goofily high in comparison. I just assumed that whoever assembled my guitar in the Gibson factory might have installed them incorrectly. If people had weighed into this thread saying that their 335s are the same...well that's what I was hoping for to be honest. I tried to pull the witches hats off my other 335 to see it they press all the way down on the pots of my new guitar but I can't get them off for love nor money....

Indeed but what has that got to do with it? Are some knobs designed to fit poorly and some are designed to fit optimally? If so, why?

My 2018 335 has around 1mm clearance between the wood of the guitar and the bottom of the witch's hats knobs. Why are these optimally mounted and the 2020 335 knobs aren't? Shorter pot shafts? Deeper pockets inside the knobs?

Why would they mount them too high at the factory? I agree that getting the height changed would be a real PITA on a 335.

Yes I believe they do! They aren't ridiculously high but I feel they should sit a bit lower. I would be interested to know if they're all like that.

It's hard to show in a pic, surprisingly. The knobs sit much higher than they do on any other Gibson guitar that I own (5).

I picked up a 2020 Sixties ES335 DOT last week and it's a great guitar. Just one thing though, the volume and tone knobs don't seem to be fully pushed down. They stick up proud of the surface and are nothing like as flush as the knobs on my Les Pauls. Is this normal for the reflector knobs on a 335? I can't push them down any further than they already are and they look kimda goofy, like they're only on halfway.

Nitro smells of chemicals, not vanilla. It also offgases for years, it never cures. However, some nitro guitars smell more nasty than others and I'm not sure why that is.

My early 2019 LP Standard and late 2019 LP Special both still absolutely stink of solvents. They smell like a chemicals factory and if I"m around them my lungs feel sore.....which is more than a bit worrying. I've just taken delivery of a brand new ES335 and it doesn't smell even one quarter as bad as my Les Pauls. What gives? Surely the new one should smell the worst of the lot? They're all finished in gloss nitro so why do the two older guitars stink awfully and the new one doesn't? It isn't the cases either because the two LPs are in a rack.

I took delivery of a brand new ES335 Dot Sixties yesterday. The build quality is on a par with my 2018 Memphis 335. That one came with a COA and my new Nashville guitar didn't. Also, the Memphis guitar has a very custom shop-like build, the ABR bridge is screwed directly into the top of the guitar whereas my new one has the bushings which the ABR screws into much like any other non-Custom Shop Gibson Les Paul etc My new Nashville guitar is lighter and more resonant when played unplugged but I realise that such thihgs are more luck of the drawer than anything else. It also has a slightly fatter neck from approx the 5th fret upwards.

The Classic and the Standards are (supposed to be) exactly the same quality. You just have a poor Classic, or an especially good Standard.

No relief and as low as humanly possible.