Mc Cartney Texan

[RichG]

http://www2.gibson.com/Products/Acoustic-Instruments/Round-Shoulder/Epiphone/Paul-McCartney-1964-Texan.aspx

 

Is this built in Montana?

 

Rich

[GuitarLight]

They are great guitars. But they are most likely built in Indonesia or China. ...If the 5th and 6th letter in the serial number is 23...it is built in Indonesia. If the 5th and 6th number in the serial number is 17, it is built in China. Depending on the year, it could also be made in Japan. My Epi Hummingbird was made in Indonesia...and it is fabulous in every respect.

[Gralst]

http://www2.gibson.com/Products/Acoustic-Instruments/Round-Shoulder/Epiphone/Paul-McCartney-1964-Texan.aspx

 

Is this built in Montana?

 

Rich

 

Yes. But that's not the Chinese-made guitar sold as a "Inspired By 1964 Texan". That's one of the 250 Montana-made versions that have been out of production since 2006...when they listed for $8000

 

If I recall correctly there were like 40 Montana-made (Strung left handed) that were exact replicas (wear and flaws that were on McCartney's original plus hand-signed by McCartney with the Dee-TroiT Red-Wings' winged wheel) 250 Montana-made near-exact. mirror image replicas (both Montana-made models with Nitro-cellulose finishes)and 1,964 Japanese-made (Terada) "very similar to" though with poly finishes. The exact replicas were like $25K list but even back then (2005) dealers were asking and getting more than list(and now they are WAYYYY out of sight price-wise). The near-exact Montana-made were around $8K and have appreciated to near that list price. The Terada McCartneys listed for about $3K and I've seen those on E Bay for anywhere from $1200-$2000 There were also 250 (some say 500)Texans that were made in 1993-1994 in Montana that they ask a lot for but in actuality are very different from the original Kalamazoo-made models or any of the recent reissues and not very good replicas. The Terada McCartneys were a continuation of the Elite/Elitist '64 Texans which not bad but nowhere near an exact replica. All things considered (The added premium of McCartney's connection to the McCartney reissues)I'd say for reasonable money (<$2K) the Terada Texan is probably the best value. The Chinese-made "Inspired By" Texan is what it is and is priced accordingly. The intentions with these aren't so much to nail the model but to give a good impression and vibe from ten feet away and to bring it home for five "C" notes. I've only played one of the Inspired by and it had some neck/action/humidity issues. What also concerns me about them is that there are so many second quality examples available on E Bay. After playing the one I did I do wonder if that's what to be expected. I've never played one of the 40 Exacts (I have seen one in a glass case) But the near-exact Montana-made and the Terada-mades have both impressed me. Again, I haven't ever played an Elite/Elitist Texan so I can't comment but I'd expect the build and materials quality to be on par with the Terada McCartney (without the "name" premium)but it isn't close in detail to the original FT-79 Texans made in Kalamazoo.

 

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aLM75vlREbw

[bobouz]

See the similar thread in "Gibson Acoustics" (posted by the OP) for further info.

[el capitan]

I had an Elitist-excellent guitar.It had Grovers and a custom hard case.I sold it on eBay when I got the Macca(MIJ)which was better.

Later I got an IB 64 on eBay.It was a refurb with the electrics replaced by a simple active pickup,which I much prefer.It's a good,gigging electro-acoustic,but nowhere near as good as the MIJ Texans.

[frenchie1281734003]

http://www2.gibson.com/Products/Acoustic-Instruments/Round-Shoulder/Epiphone/Paul-McCartney-1964-Texan.aspx

 

Is this built in Montana?

 

Rich

 

The one in your link was made by Terada in Japan. I had one of the overruns for a while, and it was probably the lightest guitar (weight wise) I have played. I couldn`t warm to it`s tone though, it was nowhere near as nice as the origial 62 I had! The bass wasn`t deep enough and the trebles a bit rasping. However Ben Kweller has the same guitar and his sounds very nice.

 

 

Steve.

[DrRogerFisher]

FYI, here's the original Epi Texan, played upside down.

This song appeared on Revolver (1966) and McCartney seems to be previewing it in the studio for the producers.

 

[Red 333]

 

If I recall correctly there were like 40 Montana-made (Strung left handed) that were exact replicas (wear and flaws that were on McCartney's original plus hand-signed by McCartney with the Dee-TroiT Red-Wings' winged wheel) 250 Montana-made near-exact. mirror image replicas (both Montana-made models with Nitro-cellulose finishes)and 1,964 Japanese-made (Terada) "very similar to" though with poly finishes.

 

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aLM75vlREbw

 

The Made-in-Japan (by Terada) Paul McCartney 1964 Texan had a nitro finish, not poly. The Elitist Texan had a poly finish.

 

The 1964 Texan is actually more accurate to a vintage Texan than the Bozeman-made McCartney reissues in a number of small details.

 

Red 333

[Gralst]

The one in your link was made by Terada in Japan. I had one of the overruns for a while, and it was probably the lightest guitar (weight wise) I have played. I couldn`t warm to it`s tone though, it was nowhere near as nice as the origial 62 I had! The bass wasn`t deep enough and the trebles a bit rasping. However Ben Kweller has the same guitar and his sounds very nice.

 

 

Steve.

 

The one in the video is a Terada-made...the one in the Epiphone promo I'm not certain...

[Gralst]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q3oevndA9Sw

FYI, here's the original Epi Texan, played upside down.

This song appeared on Revolver (1966) and McCartney seems to be previewing it in the studio for the producers.

 

I believe that's from "Give My Regards To Broad Street (1983). McCartney got his Texan in late 1964 from Manny's in NY and it was used on Yestaerday which was recorded 14 June 1965 and I would guess the rest of the "Help" lp as well. "For No One" was recorded in May of '66 and McCartney played clavichord, piano and bass on the recording not acouguitar. Ringo played drums and percussion and Lennon and Harrison did not appear on the recording.

 

oooppppsss...at crunch time it seems Macca went with the D-28

 

Nice job of "whiting out" the Winged Wheel in the "demo" video that was put on the Texan on May 8, 1976 after he found it in the dressing room at Olympia Stadium (A/k/a "The Ole Red Barn On Grand River").

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q3oevndA9Swstic

[Gralst]

The Made-in-Japan (by Terada) Paul McCartney 1964 Texan had a nitro finish, not poly. The Elitist Texan had a poly finish.

 

The 1964 Texan is actually more accurate to a vintage Texan than the Bozeman-made McCartney reissues in a number of small details.

 

Red 333

 

I did not know that the Terada had a nitro finish (or a "lacquer" finish of any kind). The next time one comes along, if the planets are willing (and the Mastercard hasn't been too badly abused) I may get one. I do consider the Terada the best "value" of the recent reissues. (That McCartney connection plus the USA thing tends to send the prices unreasonable high-I really think $2.5K is the upper limit for that particular guitar as a guitar (Long-scaled, AJ sized and braced/Hog-bodied acoustic- the plus of the Terada version being the lighter bracing resulting in awesome projection) . Anything more becomes the stuff of fan boys and personality association not intrinsic value as a guitar. I've owned a K-Zoo '66 for many years but it does have a lot of miles on her and is in dire need of fret work and a neck re-set. The sentimental value is beyond any price though I've leaned heavily toward Martins in the last couple of decades and they can cost considerably more. There still isn't anything like a Texan tuned down a step for so many things beyond Beatle music. The balance is of course there but that ever present (but not over-whelming) low-mid thump is something to savor. My favorite non-McCartney use of a Texan is probably "For Your Love" by Humble Pie with Frampton on a mid 60s Texan and Steve Marriot on a mid 60s FT-110 Frontier.

 

 

 

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W0gkMzies2U

[frenchie1281734003]

The one in the video is a Terada-made...the one in the Epiphone promo I'm not certain...

 

The promo one is Terada. The Bozeman version doesn`t have the dot above the letter "I" on the heasdstock logo. Plus the fretboards on the Bozeman guitars continue right to the soundhole, whereas on the Terada`s they stop a little short. These are some of the tiny details that differentiate the two versions, but as Red 333 said the Terada models are somewhat more accurate in some repects, certainly on the outside of the guitar, the bracing is a different matter altogether.

 

Steve.

[Gralst]

The promo one is Terada. The Bozeman version doesn`t have the dot above the letter "I" on the heasdstock logo. Plus the fretboards on the Bozeman guitars continue right to the soundhole, whereas on the Terada`s they stop a little short. These are some of the tiny details that differentiate the two versions, but as Red 333 said the Terada models are somewhat more accurate in some repects, certainly on the outside of the guitar, the bracing is a different matter altogether.

 

Steve.

 

Thank you for that information. I'm pretty up on the vintage (House of Stathopoulo/Epiphone(Late 20s to mid 50s) to Gibson (pre-Norlin 1957-1969) era to some Matsumoku/Yamano/Terada era ) Epiphones but not really familiar with anything newer than maybe the last twenty years. The Texan will always be a sentimental favorite of mine.

[Red 333]

Here are a couple of posts I wrote in the past that may give you some more info. Frenchie is another excellent source if you want to search for his posts.

 

[JUNE 2009]

 

Here's some info I wrote on on a site about Beatles-related instruments and gear, the BeatGear Cavern, about the differences between the regular MIJ Elitist Texan, the MIJ Elitist McCartney Texan, and the USA McCartney Texan. I made some additional comments [in brackets like this] to provide a little more context, since the posts I was replying to are not reproduced here.

 

****

 

Actually, I think the Japanese version is closer to a vintage Texan than the USA model. The USA model lacks the small reinforcement below the sound hole between the X braces, which I've found on every vintage Texan I've examined. The Japanese model does have it. It's minor, I know, but that's the kind of attention detail the Japanese have. Who knows, maybe Macca's Texan did not have this reinforcement...

 

Here's another bit of attention to detail the Japanese got right: the neck heel. The USA versions I have seen are too low and flat. Of course, maybe that is truer to Macca's particular Texan, and necks were shaped largely by hand back in the day, but it is not representative of the vintage Texans I've seen.

 

Oh yeah...McCartney's personal Texan has a dot over the "i" in Epiphone on the headstock. [The USA version does not have the dot, but the MIJ Elitist McCartney Texan does.]

 

In the examples I've seen, the rosettes on the Elitist McCartney Texan and USA McCartney Texans are basically the same, though the USA versions may have some more white binding showing, due to the differences in aging toner in the laquer. [The MIJ Elitist McCartney Texan uses a darker, more amber toner, which covers up the white binding in the rossette somewhat.] The regular Elitist has an additonal outer ring that the Elitist McCartney Texan and USA McCartney Texans do not have.

 

Otherwise, the USA and Japanese-made Texans seem very similarly constructed. If anything, the braces on the back of the Japanese Texans are even thinner than on their USA counterparts, which (again) to me, seems more visually correct.

 

Anyway, the old Kalamazoo Gibsons and Epiphones (and today's Montana built Gibsons) are largely hand built, so there are bound to be variations. Both the USA and MIJ Texans are as close to a vintage Texan as any two of the same model acoustic will be. They are fine sounding guitars, adjustable bridge and all.

 

On a related subject, there ARE differences between the regular Elitist Texan that preceded the McCartney Texan (both made in Japan at Tedara), aside from the nitro finish and tuners [the regular Elitist has a poly finish and Grover tuners]. For one, the shape of the headstock is slightly different. The Elitist Texan also has no carve in the contours of the headstock. In addition, the Elitist also has a neck heel extension, while the Elitist McCartney Texan has a true one-piece neck.

 

Finally, the back braces on the regular Eltist Texan are more like a Gibson Advanced Jumbo's (and less like today's Gibson J45s) in that the lower two are very wide. The lower two back braces on the Elitist McCartney Texan (and the USA McCartney Texans) have the vintage correct high, thin braces.

 

[FROM JUNE 2009]

 

One final thing: please understand that my post above was in response to someone (without either Texan) who wrote that the USA version was closer to a vintage one. My post was to try and make the guy I was responding to understand how skilled the Japanese luthiers were, since he had that very old mindset about Japanese quality. I wasn't trying to suggest the MIJ is superior to the Gibson made version, as in fact, I think they sound very similar and are very similarly well made. The lack of that little soundhole reinforcment strip (it's like a small, wafer thin strip between the x bace and the soundhole) doesn't mean much as far as I'm concerned. Gibson doesn't use them anymore (as far as I know--certainly on no round-shouldered models I've got or have looked at have them), so it's understandable that Gibson just forgot about it (or possibly Macca's guitar DOESN'T have it, who knows?).

 

Wait--one MORE final thing. By a coincidence, I was visting the Gibson Acoustic plant in Bozeman on a day they were working on McCartney Texans. There were bunches of them on racks waiting to be set up and boxed up. I couldn't believe it.

 

While I was standing in the lobby after the tour, Ren Fergeson, Gibson's Master Luthier, signed out a new one that was to become one of the 40 "aged" Texans that sold for $40K. He was bringing it to his own workshop so he could distress it. When I asked about it, he took it right out of the case to show it to me. He also showed me a completed one that he said he was taking to destroy because the tuners had been mounted on backwards! I don't know whay they coudn't be taken off and just switched around (you'd think the screw holes on the three on a strip tuners would match up, right?) so I don't know if he was joking about that or not. Anyway, he was very willing to talk about the Texans, and very gracious with his time.

 

That's enough Texan talk from this Texan. Enjoy your guitar!

 

[MARCH 2009]

 

According to Andy Babiuk's Beatles' Gear book, both Lennon and McCartney got Martin D28's in 1968, so any acoustic stuff he did prior to that was most likely the Texan. It's thought that much of McCartney's White Album acoustic work, including Blackbird, was played on the D-28. In addition to his Texan, he uses Martin acoustics on stage and in recordings to this day.

 

McCartney's Texan, which is a right hand model, is currently set up for left hand playing, but in an unusual way. The original adjustable saddle has been removed, and the large slot for it was filled in with rosewood, which has been slotted for a new saddle. Here's the unusual part: instead of reslotting the saddle for a bridge that is angled correctly for a left handed player, the new saddle maintains the right-handed orientation, though it's at a less extreme angle. As noted above, the saddle is compensated with large tabs on the E and G strings that essentially reverse the angle of the bridge, so the strings are the proper length for a left handed player when they make contact with the saddle.

 

Epiphone issued three styles of McCartney Texans: An Elitist McCartney Texan, a McCartney USA Texan, and a super expensive replica, the Aged USA Texan.

 

As far as I know, all the 1,964 Epiphone Elitist Paul McCartney 1964 Texans (made in Japan by Terada) were made with the original style adjustable bridge, as were the 250 Epiphone Paul McCartney USA 1964 Texans (which were made in the Gibson Acoustic factory, in Bozeman, Montana). Both righty and lefty models seem to have been made.

 

I THINK (but do not know with 100% certainty) that the 40 Aged USA Texans may have been exact copies of Paul's Texan--that is, righty guitars set up to play lefty with the non-adjustable compensated bridge he now uses.

 

[JANUARY 2012]

 

Before Gibson Montana issued the McCartney Texan in 2006, Epiphone had announced that it would be available as a left-handed model set up for righties, so that righty players would be a mirror image of the lefty McCartney playing his righty Texan. I don't know how many they actually made like this, if any (I've only seen regular lefties and righties), but the concept was certainly in their plans when they announced the model at first.

 

Bozeman made 290 McCartney Texans.

 

Forty were the aged and signed Paul McCartney Replica 1964 Texans, that reproduced Pauls' guitar as it is today. Paul had the adjustable saddle on his Texan replaced with a fixed one by the Mandolin brothers, and while it still appears to slant for a right handed player, it was cleverly designed to intonate for a left-handed one. These guitars were signed by Paul on the soundboard.

 

The other 250 guitars (called the Paul McCartney 1964 USA Texans) reproduced Paul's Texan as it might have been when it was new, with the adjustable saddle. These guitars also featured reproduction, period correct blue Epiphone labels that were signed by Paul (though they say "Epiphone Inc., Bozeman Montana" rather than "Kalamzoo, MI" as the original labels would have), and a certificate showing its release sequence (1 of 250, etc.). If any were actually made as left-handed versions set up for righties, I think they would have been from this batch (otherwise the Replicas wouldn't be replicas). I don't know if they actually did this though. They did make left-handed and right handed versions.

 

The final 1964 guitars were the Epiphone Elitist Paul McCartney Texans. They were made in Japan by Terada, and were also available in right-handed and left-handed models. These guitars had a facsimile signature on the repro blue Epiphone soundhole label (which said "Epiphone Inc., Nashville, Tennessee). The last four digits of the serial number indicate which of 1964 the guitar is. A certificate also indicated its sequence (1 of 1,964, etc.).

 

There are also a handful of overruns from the Bozeman-made batches that have no signed/numbered labels, but have a standard Gibson serial number on the headstock (the other Bozeman and Terada McCartney Texans all have the serial number of Paul's guitar). No doubt there are some overruns of the Terada batch, too.

 

Red 333

[Gralst]

Here are a couple of posts I wrote in the past that may give you some more info. Frenchie is another excellent source if you want to search for his posts.

 

[JUNE 2009]

 

Here's some info I wrote on on a site about Beatles-related instruments and gear, the BeatGear Cavern, about the differences between the regular MIJ Elitist Texan, the MIJ Elitist McCartney Texan, and the USA McCartney Texan. I made some additional comments [in brackets like this] to provide a little more context, since the posts I was replying to are not reproduced here.

 

****

 

Actually, I think the Japanese version is closer to a vintage Texan than the USA model. The USA model lacks the small reinforcement below the sound hole between the X braces, which I've found on every vintage Texan I've examined. The Japanese model does have it. It's minor, I know, but that's the kind of attention detail the Japanese have. Who knows, maybe Macca's Texan did not have this reinforcement...

 

Here's another bit of attention to detail the Japanese got right: the neck heel. The USA versions I have seen are too low and flat. Of course, maybe that is truer to Macca's particular Texan, and necks were shaped largely by hand back in the day, but it is not representative of the vintage Texans I've seen.

 

Oh yeah...McCartney's personal Texan has a dot over the "i" in Epiphone on the headstock. [The USA version does not have the dot, but the MIJ Elitist McCartney Texan does.]

 

In the examples I've seen, the rosettes on the Elitist McCartney Texan and USA McCartney Texans are basically the same, though the USA versions may have some more white binding showing, due to the differences in aging toner in the laquer. [The MIJ Elitist McCartney Texan uses a darker, more amber toner, which covers up the white binding in the rossette somewhat.] The regular Elitist has an additonal outer ring that the Elitist McCartney Texan and USA McCartney Texans do not have.

 

Otherwise, the USA and Japanese-made Texans seem very similarly constructed. If anything, the braces on the back of the Japanese Texans are even thinner than on their USA counterparts, which (again) to me, seems more visually correct.

 

Anyway, the old Kalamazoo Gibsons and Epiphones (and today's Montana built Gibsons) are largely hand built, so there are bound to be variations. Both the USA and MIJ Texans are as close to a vintage Texan as any two of the same model acoustic will be. They are fine sounding guitars, adjustable bridge and all.

 

On a related subject, there ARE differences between the regular Elitist Texan that preceded the McCartney Texan (both made in Japan at Tedara), aside from the nitro finish and tuners [the regular Elitist has a poly finish and Grover tuners]. For one, the shape of the headstock is slightly different. The Elitist Texan also has no carve in the contours of the headstock. In addition, the Elitist also has a neck heel extension, while the Elitist McCartney Texan has a true one-piece neck.

 

Finally, the back braces on the regular Eltist Texan are more like a Gibson Advanced Jumbo's (and less like today's Gibson J45s) in that the lower two are very wide. The lower two back braces on the Elitist McCartney Texan (and the USA McCartney Texans) have the vintage correct high, thin braces.

 

[FROM JUNE 2009]

 

One final thing: please understand that my post above was in response to someone (without either Texan) who wrote that the USA version was closer to a vintage one. My post was to try and make the guy I was responding to understand how skilled the Japanese luthiers were, since he had that very old mindset about Japanese quality. I wasn't trying to suggest the MIJ is superior to the Gibson made version, as in fact, I think they sound very similar and are very similarly well made. The lack of that little soundhole reinforcment strip (it's like a small, wafer thin strip between the x bace and the soundhole) doesn't mean much as far as I'm concerned. Gibson doesn't use them anymore (as far as I know--certainly on no round-shouldered models I've got or have looked at have them), so it's understandable that Gibson just forgot about it (or possibly Macca's guitar DOESN'T have it, who knows?).

 

Wait--one MORE final thing. By a coincidence, I was visting the Gibson Acoustic plant in Bozeman on a day they were working on McCartney Texans. There were bunches of them on racks waiting to be set up and boxed up. I couldn't believe it.

 

While I was standing in the lobby after the tour, Ren Fergeson, Gibson's Master Luthier, signed out a new one that was to become one of the 40 "aged" Texans that sold for $40K. He was bringing it to his own workshop so he could distress it. When I asked about it, he took it right out of the case to show it to me. He also showed me a completed one that he said he was taking to destroy because the tuners had been mounted on backwards! I don't know whay they coudn't be taken off and just switched around (you'd think the screw holes on the three on a strip tuners would match up, right?) so I don't know if he was joking about that or not. Anyway, he was very willing to talk about the Texans, and very gracious with his time.

 

That's enough Texan talk from this Texan. Enjoy your guitar!

 

[MARCH 2009]

 

According to Andy Babiuk's Beatles' Gear book, both Lennon and McCartney got Martin D28's in 1968, so any acoustic stuff he did prior to that was most likely the Texan. It's thought that much of McCartney's White Album acoustic work, including Blackbird, was played on the D-28. In addition to his Texan, he uses Martin acoustics on stage and in recordings to this day.

 

McCartney's Texan, which is a right hand model, is currently set up for left hand playing, but in an unusual way. The original adjustable saddle has been removed, and the large slot for it was filled in with rosewood, which has been slotted for a new saddle. Here's the unusual part: instead of reslotting the saddle for a bridge that is angled correctly for a left handed player, the new saddle maintains the right-handed orientation, though it's at a less extreme angle. As noted above, the saddle is compensated with large tabs on the E and G strings that essentially reverse the angle of the bridge, so the strings are the proper length for a left handed player when they make contact with the saddle.

 

Epiphone issued three styles of McCartney Texans: An Elitist McCartney Texan, a McCartney USA Texan, and a super expensive replica, the Aged USA Texan.

 

As far as I know, all the 1,964 Epiphone Elitist Paul McCartney 1964 Texans (made in Japan by Terada) were made with the original style adjustable bridge, as were the 250 Epiphone Paul McCartney USA 1964 Texans (which were made in the Gibson Acoustic factory, in Bozeman, Montana). Both righty and lefty models seem to have been made.

 

I THINK (but do not know with 100% certainty) that the 40 Aged USA Texans may have been exact copies of Paul's Texan--that is, righty guitars set up to play lefty with the non-adjustable compensated bridge he now uses.

 

[JANUARY 2012]

 

Before Gibson Montana issued the McCartney Texan in 2006, Epiphone had announced that it would be available as a left-handed model set up for righties, so that righty players would be a mirror image of the lefty McCartney playing his righty Texan. I don't know how many they actually made like this, if any (I've only seen regular lefties and righties), but the concept was certainly in their plans when they announced the model at first.

 

Bozeman made 290 McCartney Texans.

 

Forty were the aged and signed Paul McCartney Replica 1964 Texans, that reproduced Pauls' guitar as it is today. Paul had the adjustable saddle on his Texan replaced with a fixed one by the Mandolin brothers, and while it still appears to slant for a right handed player, it was cleverly designed to intonate for a left-handed one. These guitars were signed by Paul on the soundboard.

 

The other 250 guitars (called the Paul McCartney 1964 USA Texans) reproduced Paul's Texan as it might have been when it was new, with the adjustable saddle. These guitars also featured reproduction, period correct blue Epiphone labels that were signed by Paul (though they say "Epiphone Inc., Bozeman Montana" rather than "Kalamzoo, MI" as the original labels would have), and a certificate showing its release sequence (1 of 250, etc.). If any were actually made as left-handed versions set up for righties, I think they would have been from this batch (otherwise the Replicas wouldn't be replicas). I don't know if they actually did this though. They did make left-handed and right handed versions.

 

The final 1964 guitars were the Epiphone Elitist Paul McCartney Texans. They were made in Japan by Terada, and were also available in right-handed and left-handed models. These guitars had a facsimile signature on the repro blue Epiphone soundhole label (which said "Epiphone Inc., Nashville, Tennessee). The last four digits of the serial number indicate which of 1964 the guitar is. A certificate also indicated its sequence (1 of 1,964, etc.).

 

There are also a handful of overruns from the Bozeman-made batches that have no signed/numbered labels, but have a standard Gibson serial number on the headstock (the other Bozeman and Terada McCartney Texans all have the serial number of Paul's guitar). No doubt there are some overruns of the Terada batch, too.

 

Red 333

 

I had written a very long thank you for the information and we had a power cut (we having a thunder storm) and it went bye bye so Thanks so very much for the great information" will have to suffice. Oh, my copy of "Beatles Gear"(actually one of my three copies lol) is signed to me- from "Andy Babiuk- Beatlefest New York 2002"...and there's another signature..some German guy, I assume, called "Klaus Voormann"... never 'eard of 'im... I didn't meet Klaus or Andy. My brother did a photo shoot there in New York (The Meadowlands actually... which I think is in New Joisey) and got me the book and the autographs for my birthday that year. Anyway, thanks again.

[Red 333]

That's a geat thank you, Graist. Much appreciated.

 

Red 333

[Cinos Repus]

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Gibson-Epiphone-Paul-McCartney-Autograph-Autographed-Texan-Aged-Signed-Guitar-/321102004353?pt=Guitar&hash=item4ac32bc081

[Red 333]

Now, where did I put that spare $60,000? My shirt pocket? Pants pocket? Maybe it fell between the couch cushions. I know I had it somewhere...

 

Red 333

[clarkuss]

I had written a very long thank you for the information and we had a power cut (we having a thunder storm) and it went bye bye so Thanks so very much for the great information" will have to suffice. Oh, my copy of "Beatles Gear"(actually one of my three copies lol) is signed to me- from "Andy Babiuk- Beatlefest New York 2002"...and there's another signature..some German guy, I assume, called "Klaus Voormann"... never 'eard of 'im... I didn't meet Klaus or Andy. My brother did a photo shoot there in New York (The Meadowlands actually... which I think is in New Joisey) and got me the book and the autographs for my birthday that year. Anyway, thanks again.

 

You don't know who Kluas Voormann is?!?!

[Gralst]

You don't know who Kluas Voormann is?!?!

 

It's Ok...I also don't know who Astrid Kichherr, Jurgen Vollman or Manfred Mann are or who Stuart Sutcliffe or Soren Kierkegaard were. I don't get out much. I was joking. Of course I know who Soren Kierkegaard was... :-) But seriously, Klaus Voormann is both a very good artist and is very under-rated as a musician and has appeared on a ton of stuff. Once upon a time he was also rumored to be McCartney's replacement in an incartnation of the Beatles (not called The Beatles of course- but "The Ladders") post-break-up that nerver materialized.I know that some of Ringo's '73 album "Ringo" used "The Ladders" line up and I know Klaus is on the original Lennon demo of "I'm The Greatest" but Richard Perry, producer of "Ringo" often used a Brit basist named Herbie Flowers. I'll look it up later.

 

Looks like both Voormann and Flowers were on "Ringo"

[RichG]

Thanks to everyone here for all that great information. I really appreciate the time you guys took to educate me.

[clarkuss]

**phew** :D