The Brush Posted October 31, 2013 Share Posted October 31, 2013 Looking at buying this from an estate sale. First off it's a lefty. Tried multiple websites to use serial number for identification, no luck figuring out. Multiple stickers on back of neck say made in China. No serial number on headstock. Only number is on neck plate. MC indicates Muse, China but numbers after that don't make sense. Any help would be appreciated. Little dinged up but plays great and sounds incredible. They're asking $150 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kaiser Bill Posted October 31, 2013 Share Posted October 31, 2013 Usually "lefties" are more than a "right handed guitar. I'd jump on it if I was a lefty. Thats not much money to spend...PLUS if it sounds and plays great...WHY NOT?? Best of luck with whatever you decide. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pin Posted October 31, 2013 Share Posted October 31, 2013 Absolutely buy it! The key words: "Sounds and plays great". So what if it is a fake. At that price, who cares? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rct Posted October 31, 2013 Share Posted October 31, 2013 The case is worth a hunnert'nfitty. rct Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobinTheHood Posted October 31, 2013 Share Posted October 31, 2013 Not a fake. Its a Les Paul-100. Made in Muse, China in 1992. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jon S. Posted November 1, 2013 Share Posted November 1, 2013 Looks good to me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crust Posted November 1, 2013 Share Posted November 1, 2013 Thats a nice left hand LP. Looks to be in pristine condition for a guitar manufactured 21 years ago and the price is right. If you are able to obtain it, please let the forum know and also please upload some better pictures. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluemans335 Posted November 1, 2013 Share Posted November 1, 2013 How much do they cost new? Used Epi's often go for around 50-60% of retail (not list). A 20 year old guitar is worth less than that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Brush Posted November 4, 2013 Author Share Posted November 4, 2013 Not a fake. Its a Les Paul-100. Made in Muse, China in 1992. How does the number break down as to year, month, production unit? It doesn't exactly fit any of the multiple formats for serial numbers. I did notice with further internet searches that several other people have Les Paul and SG models with this same serial number format on the neck plate. Isn't this time period during the Japanese and/or Korean production? These seem to be an odd group that were made in China prior to the big switch to China in 2002. Just curious because a friend says it can't be China before 2002. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Brush Posted November 4, 2013 Author Share Posted November 4, 2013 Not a fake. Its a Les Paul-100. Made in Muse, China in 1992. How does the number break down as to year, month, production unit? It doesn't exactly fit any of the multiple formats for serial numbers. I did notice with further internet searches that several other people have Les Paul and SG models with this same serial number format on the neck plate. Isn't this time period during the Japanese and/or Korean production? These seem to be an odd group that were made in China prior to the big switch to China in 2002. Just curious because a friend says it can't be China before 2002. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobinTheHood Posted November 4, 2013 Share Posted November 4, 2013 How does the number break down as to year, month, production unit? It doesn't exactly fit any of the multiple formats for serial numbers. I did notice with further internet searches that several other people have Les Paul and SG models with this same serial number format on the neck plate. Isn't this time period during the Japanese and/or Korean production? These seem to be an odd group that were made in China prior to the big switch to China in 2002. Just curious because a friend says it can't be China before 2002. It could be a 2002. I was gong by the first number in the serial (2) which would indicate either 1992 or 2002. The fact that htere is no "Les Paul" script on the headstock made be think 1992, but I think I may be mistaken. Seeing as the Epiphone logo is on a slant, it probably is 2002. In 1992 it would have been straight across the headstock. My bad. Definitely Chinese, though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobinTheHood Posted November 4, 2013 Share Posted November 4, 2013 oops. Double post. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Brush Posted November 4, 2013 Author Share Posted November 4, 2013 What makes you think there were no chinese made Epis before 2002 Starting their 'own' factory in China in 2002 doesn't mean OEM factories didn't produce before..... Your friend is wrong mostly one digit for the year was used from 86-95 6=86 7=87 .... 4=94 5=95 96=96 ... though the serial# on the bolt-on models seem to be 'strange' - sometimes MC23030066 You thinking MC=Muse, China 2=1992 3=March 03=third day of March 0066=66th unit that day Just my SWAG Maybe they were farming some out to China during those Japanese and Korean production periods Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobF_ Posted November 4, 2013 Share Posted November 4, 2013 I didn't see any lefties, but sweetwater has Epi LP-100s priced at $249, new, no case. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobinTheHood Posted November 4, 2013 Share Posted November 4, 2013 I'm more sure with the year than with the month and day.... BTW Epi never stopped producing guitars in Japan and Korea.... Dont be so sure. Like I pointed out earlier, the Epiphone logo is wrong for 1992. It should be straight across the headstock. I also did a little recon and came across an SG Speciall with an MC23 serial. The SG Special wasnt introduced until 1998, so 1992 would be out of the question for that particular guitar. I'm thinking its 2002. You'll find quite a bit from Muse around that time periiod. The 2001 LP Extremes are an example of that. Some of them came out of Muse as well. I think its safe to say that the early 2000 timeline is correct for this guitar. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vomer Posted November 4, 2013 Share Posted November 4, 2013 RTH and Midtowner: Good Stuff from the Men Who Know . Love it when you two get your heads together on something. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobinTheHood Posted November 6, 2013 Share Posted November 6, 2013 I just figured out it can't be made in 92 cause Epi started chinese production in 98 Thats good to know! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Brush Posted November 6, 2013 Author Share Posted November 6, 2013 Thats good to know! RTH and Midtowner Thank you all for your help I'm proud to be on the team and look forward to many good years with this great guitar Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobinTheHood Posted November 6, 2013 Share Posted November 6, 2013 RTH and Midtowner: Good Stuff from the Men Who Know . Love it when you two get your heads together on something. Just like the old days, aye"? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobinTheHood Posted November 6, 2013 Share Posted November 6, 2013 RTH and Midtowner Thank you all for your help I'm proud to be on the team and look forward to many good years with this great guitar Anytime! Its what we do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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