ricardo_vicente Posted February 10, 2015 Share Posted February 10, 2015 Here are a few photos showing how I replaced the Min-RTune unit and machine heads on my 2014 SG Standard. It was a simple process which required no reaming and no particular skills I am neither a lthier nor a guitar tech). The headstock holes for the pegs of the machine heads are a standard Gibson size (roughly 10mm diameter) and will take standard Gibson machine heads. The only drilling required is for the pilot holes for the screws of the new machine heads. (The Min-ETune tuners do not use screws). Hope this is of use to somebody. I prepared by unwinding the strings as per the user manual for the Min-ETune. The nuts which clamp the strings in place have to be unscrewed a little to remove the strings They will screw all the way off so you have to be careful not to lose them Strings off, along with the bridge and saddles I then carefully unfastened the nuts on the tuner pegs at the front of the headstock This is the only thing holding on the machine heads and the Min-ETune unit. So once I got to the last peg, I had to hold the Min-ETune unit to prevent it from falling off Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ricardo_vicente Posted February 10, 2015 Author Share Posted February 10, 2015 I just pushed the pegs all the way through, loosely fitting the nuts and washers at the front, and lined up the machine heads until I was happy they were straight. I then marked the locating for the pilot holes (I actually ended up drilling with the machine heads still on) I selected a drill bit which was the same size or with a smaller diameter then the shaft of the screws. I tested the screw out on a hole I drilled in some alumnium with the same bit (just to be on the safe side to make sure the screws would bite) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ricardo_vicente Posted February 10, 2015 Author Share Posted February 10, 2015 I roughly noted the length of the screws on the drill bit with tape to act as a stop, so that I wouldn't drill too deep I then carefully drilled the holes and fitted the screws Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ricardo_vicente Posted February 10, 2015 Author Share Posted February 10, 2015 I then fitted and tightened the washers ad nuts on the front of the headstock (these don't need to be tightened very strongly, just so hat they are firmly fastened and don't come loose, but without indenting the wood) In a couple of the holes there was a little excess lacquer, preventing me from screwing in the bushings. I carefully scraped it out with a blade. Then it was job done! Took me maybe 20 minutes and I'm no good with my hands. Very happy with the results. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Searcy Posted February 10, 2015 Share Posted February 10, 2015 That looks fantastic! Wouldn't know a pro didn't do it. Now all you need to do is get a new truss rod cover and sell that G-Force on Ebay for $120 to $150! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ricardo_vicente Posted February 10, 2015 Author Share Posted February 10, 2015 That looks fantastic! Wouldn't know a pro didn't do it. Thanks, you're very kind. Now all you need to do is get a new truss rod cover and sell that G-Force on Ebay for $120 to $150! Yep. Absolutely. The sale of the unit will more than cover the outlay for tuners and a new truss rod cover. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ricardo_vicente Posted February 20, 2015 Author Share Posted February 20, 2015 Now all you need to do is get a new truss rod cover Ta-dah! and sell that G-Force on Ebay for $120 to $150! How does $227 sound? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Searcy Posted February 20, 2015 Share Posted February 20, 2015 Ta-dah! How does $227 sound? Holy Cow!! You did well! The new tuners and the cover didn't cost you $100 I bet. That's one sharp guitar. I have a thing for white SGs. [thumbup] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ricardo_vicente Posted February 20, 2015 Author Share Posted February 20, 2015 I had the Min-ETune on ebay and some guy asked for a "buy it now". I said "how about 200 euros?" (roughly $227 US) and he said "OK". If you buy the unit new over here, it will cost you 299, so it was still an OK deal. Seems these things are pretty popular with folk wanting to retrofit them. My outlay for the tuners and trussrod cover was 60 euros in total. The way I see it, I just got a 140 euro discount on the guitar I actually really wanted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Searcy Posted February 20, 2015 Share Posted February 20, 2015 I keep trying to tell people that. If you don't like the Tronical tuners you can swap them with just about any tuners you like and come out ahead cash wise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hbinarif Posted March 7, 2015 Share Posted March 7, 2015 I don't understand why anyone would want to take off the robot tuners... I mean, sure, you CAN easily tune a guitar yourself, but the robots are hella-accurate and are so quick! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eracer_Team Posted March 7, 2015 Share Posted March 7, 2015 I don't understand why anyone would want to take off the robot tuners... I mean, sure, you CAN easily tune a guitar yourself, but the robots are hella-accurate and are so quick! -Manual tuners will out live robot tuners by more than 100 yrs.-Many post on this very forum section talks about either the robot tuners pulling one or more strings sharp and can't be corrected. -Many posts here talk about the tuners just stop turning. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Searcy Posted March 7, 2015 Share Posted March 7, 2015 I don't understand why anyone would want to take off the robot tuners... I mean, sure, you CAN easily tune a guitar yourself, but the robots are hella-accurate and are so quick! Some folks just aren't into them. That's cool. The great thing about the new Min-eTune and G-Force systems are that they can be swapped out so easily. Nothing like the old Robot Guitars. It's really a Brilliant design. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dReit1 Posted March 7, 2015 Share Posted March 7, 2015 I liked everything you did here...except that when installing those little screws I like to use a bit of wax to keep the screws from breaking when tightening them up. But yours turned out great without the wax! Congratulations. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CharlieP Posted March 8, 2015 Share Posted March 8, 2015 Some folks just aren't into them. That's cool. The great thing about the new Min-eTune and G-Force systems are that they can be swapped out so easily. Nothing like the old Robot Guitars. It's really a Brilliant design. The Robot is easy to switch over too. Just remove the MCK, and tuners and put regular tuners on and get 500K pot and solder in same as a standard LP. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Searcy Posted March 8, 2015 Share Posted March 8, 2015 The Robot is easy to switch over too. Just remove the MCK, and tuners and put regular tuners on and get 500K pot and solder in same as a standard LP. Easy or hard really depends on the skill level of the person doing the conversion. I think swapping out the new Min-eTune system is going to be a lot less intimidating for most players. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CharlieP Posted March 8, 2015 Share Posted March 8, 2015 Easy or hard really depends on the skill level of the person doing the conversion. I think swapping out the new Min-eTune system is going to be a lot less intimidating for most players. I don't see the difficulty level unless someone is not good at soldering and wiring pots. In any case you have to learn somewhere if you own a guitar or amp or pay the high prices to get it done! Not really a big deal! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rabs Posted March 8, 2015 Share Posted March 8, 2015 Nice one... The only thing I will add to what you did was that when you take the nuts off the front (same with pots and the output jack) is that rather than use a wrench like you used, its much easier and safer to use a socket wrench bit (11 or 12mm I think).. Apart from that (and that's just a tiny thing really, use what works), great job you did there Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CharlieP Posted March 9, 2015 Share Posted March 9, 2015 Nice one... The only thing I will add to what you did was that when you take the nuts off the front (same with pots and the output jack) is that rather than use a wrench like you used, its much easier and safer to use a socket wrench bit (11 or 12mm I think).. Apart from that (and that's just a tiny thing really, use what works), great job you did there As long as you take care not to over torque the nut, use whatever. The Tronical unit came with a short stamped wrench about 1-1/2" long. They include it because they do not want you to over torque the nuts when installing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rabs Posted March 9, 2015 Share Posted March 9, 2015 As long as you take care not to over torque the nut, use whatever. The Tronical unit came with a short stamped wrench about 1-1/2" long. They include it because they do not want you to over torque the nuts when installing. Yeah I don't use a wrench with it.. just the bit and do it by hand (for that precise reason of not over tightening)... Its just that it fits nicely over the post and the washer will prevent it from ever touching the wood... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. C.O. Jones Posted March 11, 2015 Share Posted March 11, 2015 Much better, now look's awesome! Ha quedao de lujo! Good work. And nice SG! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
turntables Posted March 14, 2015 Share Posted March 14, 2015 nice little guide, and love the photos, might give this a try myself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kaicho8888 Posted March 18, 2015 Share Posted March 18, 2015 Nice job on the process with pictures! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weldaar Posted June 9, 2015 Share Posted June 9, 2015 Looks so much better without those E-tuners. Nice job! I for one am old school. I just picked up a 50's Tribute Goldtop. I ordered without mini etune. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arlum Posted June 9, 2015 Share Posted June 9, 2015 Looks like a huge improvement to my eyes too. Very nice workmanship. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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