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Could it be a bad lot of strings? These things happen. Either the wrapping is loose due to insufficient tension and thus rattling, or it's wound with too much tension causing a twisted core which induces increased torsional vibration.

 

Most of my Fender electrics came with a bad D4th stock, exhibiting exactly the same problem.

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Speaking of nut jobs....

 

Did you run a bit of light sandpaper or a small nail file through the nut slot? Add a bit of lube...

 

Does the slot look low? If yes, put a piece of paper in there to see if it helps.

 

 

BluesKing777.

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My Eastman is a single-pup ES175 type.

 

No problems, but the 175 in my avatar was, way back when.

 

Sitar-like played electric or acoustic.

 

Drove me nuts. In fact so much so that it went into the case for decades, literally.

 

Turns out when I pulled it outa the case some almost 40 years later to mess with it a bit, it turned out to be an odd sorta problem with an easy answer. The pickguard was a bit tight on the back pickup's little plastic surround ring.

 

Now a flattop ain't at all the same as a 175 type, but figure that played acoustic or electric, that little oddity destroyed the functionality of the guitar for decades.

 

How didn't I figure that out in 1975 or so?

 

I was angry. Changed strings, messed with the bridge. Messed with the nut. Messed with just about everything anybody thought about.

 

Just a story... but it's true.

 

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Well, I hope you have solved your mystery.

 

 

I have a car mystery that has gone on and on for years......about a month ago on a Saturday night, for a change we took the hound for a walk at a boat ramp area near the beach, really nice, came back and car would not start for ANYthing! In a roadside motoring assistance club and they came and pronounced no good, no spark, call a flat bed tray truck....dog stayed in car and the Princess and I rode home in the truck. Off it went to a mechanic on another truck the next day. Called me when he fixed it and I have been driving around since then.

 

Yesterday, hound and I were taking some photos and a walk on the famous Dog Beach (fenced). We got back to the car...won't start for love or money. Calked the roadside again and the mechanic pronounced No Spark and another tray truck trip home, except the hound was in the truck cabin loving it.

 

I called a specialist mechanic for my model, but no answer on any of his phones. I thought I would try to start the car......

 

I just came back from the local shops!!!

 

 

BluesKing777.

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Well, I hope you have solved your mystery.

 

 

I have a car mystery that has gone on and on for years......about a month ago on a Saturday night, for a change we took the hound for a walk at a boat ramp area near the beach, really nice, came back and car would not start for ANYthing! In a roadside motoring assistance club and they came and pronounced no good, no spark, call a flat bed tray truck....dog stayed in car and the Princess and I rode home in the truck. Off it went to a mechanic on another truck the next day. Called me when he fixed it and I have been driving around since then.

 

Yesterday, hound and I were taking some photos and a walk on the famous Dog Beach (fenced). We got back to the car...won't start for love or money. Calked the roadside again and the mechanic pronounced No Spark and another tray truck trip home, except the hound was in the truck cabin loving it.

 

I called a specialist mechanic for my model, but no answer on any of his phones. I thought I would try to start the car......

 

I just came back from the local shops!!!

 

 

BluesKing777.

Perhaps a temperature-induced slack joint? Could happen inside the ignition coil, too. A drummer friend of mine had this problem in the early 1980's.

 

During the mid-1980's another friend had to deal with a bad crimp connection within a multi-pin plug connected to the control module. It was found not before the eighth repair attempt - the car had worked after seven of them, each time after replacing the control module which by accident removed the bad contact problem for a certain period. It was a staff car, and his employer paid over 4k for modules not required and futile repair attempts.

 

Good luck for getting the problem solved.

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No fix yet... I put pencil lead in the nut, and I filed (just a little) the saddle... I do think it is the saddle. Started to see improvement after I filed a little, but duty called me away.

 

I'll work more on it this week. I am trying to strike the balance on the top of the saddle between removing a flat contact point, and one that is too sharp that may cause string break.

 

Thanks for weighing in all... I will update this as I get er done.

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The "G" string is wound and sitting next to plain strings. The wound string is bigger than the plain and may be part of the problem.

 

Always check behind the fretted string. Does the string make contact with the fret behind the note being played? This can create a sympathetic string buzz and since we are all trained to look ahead of the fret being played this type of contact can be overlooked. It's a bit of a stretch but worth checking. If this is the case the fret nut is cut to low.

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The "G" string is wound and sitting next to plain strings. The wound string is bigger than the plain and may be part of the problem.

 

Always check behind the fretted string. Does the string make contact with the fret behind the note being played? This can create a sympathetic string buzz and since we are all trained to look ahead of the fret being played this type of contact can be overlooked. It's a bit of a stretch but worth checking. If this is the case the fret nut is cut to low.

This trouble is very common on basses, usually at 6th and 8th fret. However, B, E, and A bass strings are critical due to their thick wrapping. D, G, and C are rarely the problem. I never encountered this problem on "normal" (tenor) guitars.

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Loosen the G string slightly and place any sort of shim under either the bridge or the nut.

 

A fragment of tooth-pick.

A sliver of guitar pick.

A match-stick.

Anything.

 

Raise the G-string.

 

If it sounds good, and all the other strings act correctly, then you have a perfect guitar.

 

It's the nature of things.

Fix it, play it, and move on.

 

Have you ever met a WOMAN who had all her parts and bits in perfect symmetry?

But still you find a way to make it work with her, right?

She's flawed in some small way, but all her other strong attributes make it worthwhile.

Sort of.

 

Shim it and move on, man.

 

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  • 2 weeks later...

Sal did you fix it?

May not the reason, but are you certain that the ball end sits on its round edge?

Like at 6:50 in this video :

If the ball end sits on its flat side, it may cause a buzzz. Thus maybe a problem with the end pin as well...?

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Guys,

Circling back... It was the nut. The angle is wrong to the tuner. I did not fix it, as I don't have files. Instead I sold it and disclosed it to the buyer, who negotiated a proper price. I would have kept it, but with a J50 heading back my way, I knew this would be thirst one to go. It sold same day too.

Ironically, I got four different messages from Eastman owners, who,all said the guitars sound wonderful, but that theirs also required setup work at the nut from the get go. They experienced the ping.

 

 

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Guys,

Circling back... It was the nut. The angle is wrong to the tuner. I did not fix it, as I don't have files. Instead I sold it and disclosed it to the buyer, who negotiated a proper price. I would have kept it, but with a J50 heading back my way, I knew this would be thirst one to go. It sold same day too.

Ironically, I got four different messages from Eastman owners, who,all said the guitars sound wonderful, but that theirs also required setup work at the nut from the get go. They experienced the ping.

 

 

 

Phew! thank goodness that's sorted - who knows it may come in useful the next time someone hears a ping that they can't locate the source of [rolleyes]

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