marco mancini Posted November 19, 2022 Share Posted November 19, 2022 Does anyone know how to clean the in interior of a custom shop case and change the odor of the material inside it? I premise that it doesn't seem mold stink it looks more like that the rigid material inside is getting old and need a refresh. Cheers https://ibb.co/q5GWT87 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
merciful-evans Posted November 19, 2022 Share Posted November 19, 2022 Odd. I had a problem with a guitar once. In the end leaving it out in the fresh air did what all kinds of cleansers couldn't do. Obviously it needs to be open and left out for as long as feasible. Using chemicals risks damaging the guitar nitro of course. Good luck. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marco mancini Posted November 21, 2022 Author Share Posted November 21, 2022 Just what i have done , i put the firebird in this gig bag bass which in comparison is smelling like a meadow in spring time which in turn makes the guitar smelling like a rose https://ibb.co/k5r33RC the problem of this hard case is basically this , the former owner of the guitar probably has let the guitar closed in the case with used strings smelling of rust impregnating in turn the upper side of the case where the strings are in contact with the fabric of the case above , if i change the strings and i close the guitar into it the new strings get up the rusty odour immediately which in turn get on my hands and stay there no matter what , this odour has in a way infested all the case , well i hope is not gonna be a situation beyond rapair . 😕 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveFord Posted November 21, 2022 Share Posted November 21, 2022 Maybe baking soda and then vacuum it out? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marco mancini Posted November 23, 2022 Author Share Posted November 23, 2022 i fear the baking soda could ruin the fabric of the case , at the moment i'm keeping the case wide open into my room not out in the cold and brushing away the dust, and from time to time spraying over it the FEBREZE , that light product which is used to brush away odours from dresses and outfits shirts and so on , It is very strange indeed i have got a PRS custom which i kept in its case for 25 years and it still tastes of new when you open the case up . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
merciful-evans Posted November 27, 2022 Share Posted November 27, 2022 Febreze might be ok, and it might not. I'm no chemist, but I would be cautious. This is a list of ingredients/constituents from the Febreze web site: Quote We know the products you use and the ingredients they contain are important to you. So, go ahead: Take a peek at the label. We’re confident you’ll recognize what’s in each bottle of Febreze. Check out SmartLabel for a full list of product ingredients. Alcohol You know it as: a product of fermented fruits and grains What it does: dries fabrics after they're sprayed Used in: Fabric Refresher, Air Effects Benzisothiazolinone You know it as: a common ingredient in antibacterial hand soap What it does: keeps microbes from contaminating your Febreze Used in: Air Effects Dialkyl Sodium Sulfosuccinate You know it as: a common ingredient in cosmetics What it does: helps disperse Febreze around your room Used in: Air Effects Didecyl Dimethyl Ammonium Chloride You know it as: a mineral-based fabric penetration aid What it does: helps Febreze dig deep into fabrics to find odors Used in: Fabric Refresher Diethylene Glycol You know it as: a common ingredient in cosmetics and perfumes What it does: partners with cyclodextrin to capture odor molecules of ALL sizes Used in: Fabric Refresher Dye You know it as: pigments used to add color What it does: helps make Febreze a colorful part of your daily life Used in: Candles Fragrance* You know it as: flowers, fruits, and fresh rain What it does: leaves behind that light, fresh scent you love Used in: Fabric Refresher, Air Effects, CAR, PLUG, Small Spaces, Wax Melts, Candles (PEG-60) Hydrogenated Castor Oil You know it as: a product made from castor beans What it does: makes sure the product works smoothly from the first to the last spritz Used in: Fabric Refresher, Air Effects (Hydroxypropyl) Cyclodextrin You know it as: a product made from sweet summer corn and potatoes What it does: traps odors and locks them away (not just covering them up!) Used in: Fabric Refresher, Air Effects Modified Polydimethicone You know it as: silica, a natural mineral found in bananas and spinach What it does: helps Febreze dig deep into fabrics to find embedded odors Used in: Fabric Refresher Nitrogen You know it as: a natural part of the air we breathe What it does: provides a safer way to disperse a fine mist of ahhh-some into the air… without VOC-containing propellants Used in: Air Effects Stink Blockers You know it as: perfumes What it does: gives your nose immediate relief while the odor fighters get to work Used in: CAR, PLUG, Small Spaces Odor Fighters You know it as: perfumes What it does: specially designed perfumes that bind to stinky ammonia- and sulfur-based compounds, turning them into water Used in: CAR, PLUG, Small Spaces Paraffin Wax You know it as: a wax made from petroleum jelly What it does: helps release freshness into the air evenly and safely over time Used in: Candles Petrolatum Wax You know it as: a wax made from petroleum jelly What it does: helps release freshness into the air evenly and safely over time Used in: Candles Polyamine Polymer You know it as: a common ingredient in detergents What it does: locks tough lingering odors, especially fatty cooking odors Used in: Fabric Refresher Sodium Citrate You know it as: the bubbly in seltzer; the zest in citrus fruits and pine needles What it does: balances out the pH of bad odors—so they’re as neutral as water Used in: Fabric Refresher, Air Effects Sodium Maleate You know it as: the tartness in apples and pears What it does: balances out the pH of bad odors—so they’re as neutral as water Used in: Fabric Refresher Soy Wax You know it as: soybean oil in a solid form What it does: helps release freshness into the air evenly and safely over time Used in: Wax Melts, Candles Water You know it as: H2O, in its purest form What it does: leads odor-fighting molecules to odors and stabilizes the formula Used in: Fabric Refresher, Air Effects Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marco mancini Posted November 27, 2022 Author Share Posted November 27, 2022 i do not believe that Fabreze sprayed from time to time over the fabric of the case can cause harm the texture , as far as i can tell the most important thing is kept open the case to the air as long as it can , it is quite clear that the guitar is kept in another gibson gig bag which is helping a lot to change even the odour of the guitar as a whole but for this issue i would like to ask : whether there are scented polishes over in the market because the Dunlop 65 is totally odourless and cant help to change the "antique" smelling of the nitrolaque covering the wood of the guitar . cheers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sgt. Pepper Posted November 28, 2022 Share Posted November 28, 2022 (edited) Your guitar will love the smell of Fabreeze and when your guitar reacts with it, I hope you have plenty of tissues around. Spray some on your guitar and see if it likes it, cause it’s gonna go from your case to the finish of your guitar. Don’t Fabreeze it. Here is what is in it. I recognize water and dye and fragrance, but the rest sound like designer drugs. https://www.febreze.com/en-us/ingredients-safety/our-ingredients Edited November 28, 2022 by Sgt. Pepper 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marco mancini Posted November 28, 2022 Author Share Posted November 28, 2022 Do you mean that I can't be put the guitar back in his case even tho I sprayed the fabreeze a week ago and the Interior is perfectly dry? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sgt. Pepper Posted November 29, 2022 Share Posted November 29, 2022 (edited) 14 hours ago, marco mancini said: Do you mean that I can't be put the guitar back in his case even tho I sprayed the fabreeze a week ago and the Interior is perfectly dry? You do you. Fabreeze is going no where need my guitars with nitro finishes. Those chemicals are probably still in your case just sitting on top of the what ever color fuzzy stuff it is made of. So did you spray your case? Edited November 29, 2022 by Sgt. Pepper Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marco mancini Posted November 29, 2022 Author Share Posted November 29, 2022 2 hours ago, Sgt. Pepper said: You do you. Fabreeze is going no where need my guitars with nitro finishes. Those chemicals are probably still in your case just sitting on top of the what ever color fuzzy stuff it is made of. So did you spray your case? I did yes four or five times but now i ve decided to keep the case open up inside the cupboard where i kept all my guitars maybe the fabric of the case will change the odour in any case before putting in my firbird III64 inside it i will put in my cheap squire telecaster to see whether the nitro finishes get some bad reaction is that ok ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sgt. Pepper Posted November 29, 2022 Share Posted November 29, 2022 58 minutes ago, marco mancini said: I did yes four or five times but now i ve decided to keep the case open up inside the cupboard where i kept all my guitars maybe the fabric of the case will change the odour in any case before putting in my firbird III64 inside it i will put in my cheap squire telecaster to see whether the nitro finishes get some bad reaction is that ok ? Your Tele is probably sprayed with polyurethane, and not nitro, so it wont be the same. But if your froggy spray a bit of fabreeze on a Gibson and let us know how it went. Is the case the fuzzy stuff or the harder non fuzzy stuff? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marco mancini Posted November 29, 2022 Author Share Posted November 29, 2022 I got Pepper what you mean so as far as you you are concerned i must avoid to use this case again to store my Firebird ? https://ibb.co/DDyfHXD well i tried to spray the fabreeze directly on an old bass https://ibb.co/GCzw4nC it doesnt look like to have had any harm at all . do you mean that the fabric in the case even tho is completely dry of Fabreeze can cause harm to a nitro laquer guitar Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sgt. Pepper Posted November 30, 2022 Share Posted November 30, 2022 (edited) 6 hours ago, marco mancini said: I got Pepper what you mean so as far as you you are concerned i must avoid to use this case again to store my Firebird ? https://ibb.co/DDyfHXD well i tried to spray the fabreeze directly on an old bass https://ibb.co/GCzw4nC it doesnt look like to have had any harm at all . do you mean that the fabric in the case even tho is completely dry of Fabreeze can cause harm to a nitro laquer guitar Who made the bass, and are you sure it’s nitro finished? Gibson and Martin spray nitro. Fender is poly. Others no clue. People have put Snark guitar tuners in the headstock of their guitars for 10 mins and it reacted with the rubber (which is dry) feet of the tuner, and it left a mark, and you want to spray all that stuff that is in Fabreeze in your case. Have at it. Edited November 30, 2022 by Sgt. Pepper Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marco mancini Posted November 30, 2022 Author Share Posted November 30, 2022 Dear Pepper just bear with me but how can i see a change if i put a guitar like this in the case ? https://ibb.co/vsqQNqH ..................or a Rick Beato ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sgt. Pepper Posted November 30, 2022 Share Posted November 30, 2022 (edited) 29 minutes ago, marco mancini said: Dear Pepper just bear with me but how can i see a change if i put a guitar like this in the case ? https://ibb.co/vsqQNqH ..................or a Rick Beato ? If your guitar does have a reaction it may change the color or your finish or leave what looks like a burned spot where it reacted. Here is a guitar that was wrapped in bubble wrap. That is gonna be fun to look at when you take the guitar out to play. Even with polish or a cleaner that is probably there for the rest of the guitars life. Edited November 30, 2022 by Sgt. Pepper Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marco mancini Posted November 30, 2022 Author Share Posted November 30, 2022 Here the situation is different the Pluriball there was in direct contact with the nitro laquer , in my case the fabreeze has been sprayed and let it dry out away from the guitar , do you think that my firebird is at risk in a gibson gig bag like this then ? https://ibb.co/PhLw07r Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marco mancini Posted November 30, 2022 Author Share Posted November 30, 2022 And what about the arbre magique in the guitars cupboard then ? https://ibb.co/pht0qyx Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sgt. Pepper Posted December 1, 2022 Share Posted December 1, 2022 Like I said its not my guitar so put in in the case and let us know how it worked out. Here is one thing you can do. Take a rag and spray some Fabreeze on it. Put a small amount (maybe the size of a pea) on the guitar in question on an area that wont be seen, like the back and see what happens. Then post some pics for us to see the good or bad. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
merciful-evans Posted December 2, 2022 Share Posted December 2, 2022 Marco, I know its frustrating to not be able to use your case. I also am aware that English isn't your 1st language, but you had many warnings about this (including my original and subsequent replies). Quote Using chemicals risks damaging the guitar nitro of course. Good luck. I also urge you not to use the case as it is. You could do what Sgt said and try a spot of Febreze (I suggest under the pickguard). Even then it would not guarantee against long term damage. If it was mine I would seriously consider re-lining the case. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marco mancini Posted December 2, 2022 Author Share Posted December 2, 2022 1 hour ago, merciful-evans said: Marco, I know its frustrating to not be able to use your case. I also am aware that English isn't your 1st language, but you had many warnings about this (including my original and subsequent replies). I also urge you not to use the case as it is. You could do what Sgt said and try a spot of Febreze (I suggest under the pickguard). Even then it would not guarantee against long term damage. If it was mine I would seriously consider re-lining the case. Right , re-lining the case but how ? Is there a way on how to ask such a spare part at Gibson ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
merciful-evans Posted December 3, 2022 Share Posted December 3, 2022 20 hours ago, marco mancini said: Right , re-lining the case but how ? Is there a way on how to ask such a spare part at Gibson ? I'm sure Gibson cannot help with that. Its not something I've ever done either. But I just found these https://www.fuelrocks.com/how-to-reline-a-guitar-case/ https://umgf.com/how-to-reline-a-case-t5344.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marco mancini Posted December 3, 2022 Author Share Posted December 3, 2022 (edited) is it not better change the whole thing ? https://www.capro.no/products/gitarkasse-for-gibson-firebird-65-transition Edited December 3, 2022 by marco mancini Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dub-T-123 Posted December 3, 2022 Share Posted December 3, 2022 I would just stop messing with the febreze altogether. It’s supposed to remove odors but it’s just a scented spray. So it will ad a flowery scent to whatever bad scent you’re trying to get rid of. Ever just devastated a restroom and then sprayed febreze? The febreze ain’t foolin anyone... Really the combo of bad smell and febreze tends to smell worse than if you just let the bad smell dissipate You need to leave the case open outside with the sun directly on the interior lining. I would mix vinegar and distilled water in a spray bottle and spray down the lining a bit Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marco mancini Posted December 3, 2022 Author Share Posted December 3, 2022 (edited) let's say that that i ve sprayed the fabreeze four or five times and now the lining is totally dry , how are you supposed to put the case outside when the temperature is 0 celsius ? the idea of the vinigar along water is cool but what about the vinegar , apple vinegar ? and what about the doses between them ? Edited December 3, 2022 by marco mancini Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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