gregory_james Posted March 13, 2010 Share Posted March 13, 2010 hi - wondering if anyone here has tried (successfully or not!) to remove the label inside the sound hole of their recent Bozeman-built Gibsons? in my case, it's a 2007 J-45 True Vintage with the bright orange label. for some reason it doesn't bother me on my ES-175 and my A-9 mando since it's a bit more historically accurate and mostly hidden by the bass side f-hole. but the more I look at my J-45 TV, the more I want to get it out of there! I don't want to destroy it, I simply want to remove and set aside in a safe place. I'm not worried about warranty issues or anything like that. Thanks in advance, g Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ajsc Posted March 13, 2010 Share Posted March 13, 2010 Short answer------ NO!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Murph Posted March 13, 2010 Share Posted March 13, 2010 No. I like mine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gregory_james Posted March 13, 2010 Author Share Posted March 13, 2010 ha, awesome... I figured it might amount to heresy for some fellow gibson fanatics. but we're not talking about defacing a Loar-era F-style mando! maybe it's from looking at all the vintage J-45's and noticing how none of the 40's and 50's models had a gianormous, orange branded label sticking out through the soundhole. might take a stab at it now and see what I find out myself. thanks guys, g Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gregory_james Posted March 13, 2010 Author Share Posted March 13, 2010 update: kinda of a p.i.t.a... it's doable, but the label wants to tear. grrr.... guess I better not in case I want to sell the TV after I find a perfect late-40's / early 50's J-45. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ajsc Posted March 13, 2010 Share Posted March 13, 2010 ha' date=' awesome... I figured it might amount to heresy for somefellow gibson fanatics. but we're not talking about defacing a Loar-era F-style mando! ;) maybe it's from looking at all the vintage J-45's and noticing how none of the 40's and 50's models had a gianormous, orange branded label sticking out through the soundhole. might take a stab at it now and see what I find out myself. thanks guys, g [/quote'] I don't think it's heresy!! You can do whatever you want. It's your guitar!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jgwoods Posted March 13, 2010 Share Posted March 13, 2010 Fill the guitar with water and let it sit overnight- the label will float to the surface...;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gregory_james Posted March 13, 2010 Author Share Posted March 13, 2010 yeah, I know what you mean. although I may merely be a temporary custodian! anyway, hate to ruin the label in the process. maybe some bestine might lift it without causing harm. that seemed to work miracles back in the days of hands-on production art / design. ;) will give an update if I find out more. g Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ajsc Posted March 13, 2010 Share Posted March 13, 2010 If you can get it out in one piece, you could sell it on ebay! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gregory_james Posted March 13, 2010 Author Share Posted March 13, 2010 ha ha... guitar + water? ironic given your avatar jg! ;) anyway, wish the TV's were closer to the real thing... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pschaafs Posted March 13, 2010 Share Posted March 13, 2010 A long, long time ago when I was still in Berkeley, I had this notion that the label was excessively commercial looking, and being my mood at that particular moment, I tore it out of my 1969 J-50. Have come to regret it since, but that's life. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gregory_james Posted March 13, 2010 Author Share Posted March 13, 2010 update #2: done. bestine took it right up and left the label perfectly in tact. pschaafs... I hear you, I did not want to destroy the label. ironically, I'm an creative director / designer and do brand / identity for a living! lol... less is more on a j-45 though. :) anyway folks... bestine does the trick. it gently lifts the label right off, no prying or destruction of the label whatsoever. I'll simply keep it with the warranty / paperwork should I ever let her go. thanks for the input though! g Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
62burst Posted March 13, 2010 Share Posted March 13, 2010 Looks like you've already found a extra nice banner '45 there, GJ. I'd figure you'd be "done" after you'd gotten something like that in your herd. I too was going to suggest that the glue used to attach the label was probably water-based, & that maybe you could leave a warm, moist wash cloth sit on it for a few minutes, then try & remove it. Then press the label between two books (paper towels to soak up the moisture) to dry it flat. Any future owner of the guitar could get what's left of that label. :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gregory_james Posted March 13, 2010 Author Share Posted March 13, 2010 man, I WISH that were my '45 banner! eventually I want to get a '49-54 era J-45, but the TV model is gonna have to do for now. interesting idea on the water.... I was kinda leaning toward naptha / bestine since it evaporates really quick. luckily I have both on hand and everything is turning out great. the label is totally in tact and can put it right back in should I sell the TV down the road. thanks for everyone's replies! g Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fortyearspickn Posted March 14, 2010 Share Posted March 14, 2010 For awhile, since I was use to only a small inked in rubber stamped "LG1" inside my sound hole, the big orange oval label was like scraping fingernails on a chalk board. But, after a couple of years I came to look at it the same way I view the rubber plastic rectangle barely simulated 2X3' "Wrangler" patch on the right back pocket of my jeans. Looks weird, but it is part of 'mojo'. Still, as was noted above, you bought it - you own it. Make it yours. As you already have! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
larryp58 Posted March 14, 2010 Share Posted March 14, 2010 update #2: done. bestine took it right up and left the label perfectly in tact To quote my good friend Bugs Bunny "What a maroon". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
modoc_333 Posted March 14, 2010 Share Posted March 14, 2010 whether you sell it or not, you are only a temporary custodian of that guitar. these guitars should outlive all of us. removing a label hurts the value of it for whoever you bestow it to when you are gone. it makes the guitar harder to figure out what it is, and robs it of part of it's story. sure, it's easy to say now that's it's a TV45, but in 50 years, that won't be the case. and there is a very low chance of that label actually surviving WITH the guitar if not attached.... just my experience in trying to identify and date vintage guitars today. i'm sorry, but i think you did something bad here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gregory_james Posted March 14, 2010 Author Share Posted March 14, 2010 hey there - thank you all for chiming in and offering your words of wisdom. I actually thought of every one of these viewpoints before embarking on my little project last night. I also went into this knowing there'd probably be a wee bit of backlash. it's all good. like I mentioned, the label is in perfect condition and can be placed back inside in a heartbeat as opposed to other mods such as drilling out a headstock for Grovers or drilling out an endpin or installing a fishman or something. the label's stored along with some other vintage parts and papers, safe and sound and will be placed back onto the guitar should I sell it. again, thanks for everyone's comments. I appreciate your taking the time. best, g Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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