ZenKen Posted May 26, 2010 Share Posted May 26, 2010 I'm sure it sounds outta this world though. It sounds just like the one you can buy for $3500. In fact, the $3500 one probably sounds better. Get real y'all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Twiz Posted May 26, 2010 Author Share Posted May 26, 2010 It sounds just like the one you can buy for $3500. In fact' date=' the $3500 one probably sounds better. Get real y'all.[/quote'] Haha. Yeah, that's probably true. I just posted it because I thought it was cool to see. -In a weird way I kind of equate it to seeing a super rare animal or something. But yeah, even if I had 350k (yeah right), I'd buy a house, an SG Classic, maybe a plain-top LP Standard, and bank the other 130k. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dem00n Posted May 26, 2010 Share Posted May 26, 2010 Vintage? For sure. 325k? Not likely' date=' not for me anyway, if I was dropping a 1/3 of a million on a guitar she'd have to be mint. "Mojo" is not a selling point for me in this case. I'm sure it sounds outta this world though. [/quote']Mint guitars dont sound as good as the old beat up ones. Why? Because they werent used, the more a guitar is used in a 50 or more year span the better it sounds. Thats why everyday someone has to play the very old violins you see in musems becuase it helps the wood. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZenKen Posted May 26, 2010 Share Posted May 26, 2010 Mint guitars dont sound as good as the old beat up ones.Why? Because they werent used' date=' the more a guitar is used in a 50 or more year span the better it sounds. Thats why everyday someone has to play the very old violins you see in musems becuase it helps the wood.[/quote'] Playing helps the wood????? Huh????? Sorry man, but that's what the guys who want these unreal prices for old beat up guitars want you to think. It just isn't true. And please, an electrified, amplified, effect driven instrument isn't like an acoustic one. Take a Stradivarius and beat the hell out of it and it isn't going to sound very good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dem00n Posted May 26, 2010 Share Posted May 26, 2010 Playing helps the wood????? Huh????? Sorry man' date=' but that's what the guys who want these unreal prices for old beat up guitars want you to think. It just isn't true. And please, an electrified, amplified, effect driven instrument isn't like an acoustic one. Take a Stradivarius and beat the hell out of it and it isn't going to sound very good. [/quote'] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Basshole Posted May 26, 2010 Share Posted May 26, 2010 Where is Jesse? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Riffster Posted May 26, 2010 Share Posted May 26, 2010 Mint guitars dont sound as good as the old beat up ones.Why? Because they werent used' date=' the more a guitar is used in a 50 or more year span the better it sounds. Thats why everyday someone has to play the very old violins you see in musems becuase it helps the wood.[/quote'] Dem00n that applies to acoustic instruments. On vintage guitars the effect is much, much less perceibable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Riffster Posted May 26, 2010 Share Posted May 26, 2010 Playing helps the wood????? Huh????? Sorry man' date=' but that's what the guys who want these unreal prices for old beat up guitars want you to think. [/quote'] It is not the sellers, it is the buyers, collectors and speculators that have driven the prices up on vintage guitars. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Riffster Posted May 26, 2010 Share Posted May 26, 2010 Haha. Yeah' date=' that's probably true. I just posted it because I thought it was cool to see. -In a weird way I kind of equate it to seeing a super rare animal or something. [/quote'] I am with you, these old guitars are cool to see in a museum/guitar show kind of way. I am personally a hack, I would not even try to play a piece of history like that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rockstar232007 Posted May 26, 2010 Share Posted May 26, 2010 jokeI know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZenKen Posted May 26, 2010 Share Posted May 26, 2010 It is not the sellers' date=' it is the buyers, collectors and speculators that have driven the prices up on vintage guitars.[/quote'] Totally agree. But a wise seller always takes advantage of the buyers psychology. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rockstar232007 Posted May 26, 2010 Share Posted May 26, 2010 Mint guitars dont sound as good as the old beat up ones.Why? Because they werent used' date=' the more a guitar is used in a 50 or more year span the better it sounds. Thats why everyday someone has to play the very old violins you see in musems becuase it helps the wood.[/quote']Playing helps MY wood, but I'm not too sure about guitars? J/K! What you're referring to is "warming up" the wood (giggity!), which (and I'm sure some will debate this, but it's true) loosens up the wood fibers, and gives the guitar a "warmer", more responsive feel. You can test this yourself the next time you pick up your guitar. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZenKen Posted May 26, 2010 Share Posted May 26, 2010 loosens up the wood fibers I suppose we ought to be able to see clear through that beauty then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Twiz Posted May 26, 2010 Author Share Posted May 26, 2010 ...What you're referring to is "warming up" the wood (giggity!) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rockstar232007 Posted May 27, 2010 Share Posted May 27, 2010 I suppose we ought to be able to see clear through that beauty then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rockstar232007 Posted May 27, 2010 Share Posted May 27, 2010 I suppose we ought to be able to see clear through that beauty then. No, but you should hear/feel it. Here's an artical that goes along with what dem00n said: https://kb.osu.edu/dspace/bitstream/1811/3775/1/V50N05_235.pdf Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heymisterk Posted May 27, 2010 Share Posted May 27, 2010 If I had that kind of money floating around doing nothing, I would lure a couple of master luthiers from Hamer, Heritage, and Gibson away and start my own guitar company. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Artie Owl Posted May 27, 2010 Share Posted May 27, 2010 If I was a rock star I would love to have a peice of Rock history like that. If I had that kind of money however I'd rather have this; Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
80LPC Posted May 27, 2010 Share Posted May 27, 2010 "Original large frets in great shape; they have never been dressed or crowned" It has clearly been re-fretted (badly), and they are very worn. The nut looks to be a replacement also. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pippy Posted May 27, 2010 Share Posted May 27, 2010 "Original large frets in great shape; they have never been dressed or crowned" It has clearly been re-fretted (badly)' date=' and they are very worn. The nut looks to be a replacement also.[/quote'] I agree totally that describing the frets to be in "...great shape..." is nonsense, but what makes you think it's had a re-fret? I've just had another look and both the frets and the nibs look original to me. What am I missing? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
80LPC Posted May 28, 2010 Share Posted May 28, 2010 One of the pictures shows a fret which is too short - it doesn't reach the edge of the board. Also, the nibs are very low and have a completely different profile to the ends of the frets. The work is typical of 'fretting inside the binding', and the nibs have the profile of the original fret ends. At the upper end of the fretboard, the match is closer, but this is just because these frets have been filed down more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daveinspain Posted May 28, 2010 Share Posted May 28, 2010 If I was a rock star I would love to have a peice of Rock history like that. If I had that kind of money however I'd rather have this; You have exceptionally good taste.... BTW That guitar is not a piece of Rock History it's just an old guitar... Now if that was the famous JP black beauty that was stolen or was owned at one time by a true rock icon, that's different... but it's not Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
raine Posted May 28, 2010 Share Posted May 28, 2010 Can I pay CASH??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daveinspain Posted May 28, 2010 Share Posted May 28, 2010 Can I pay CASH??? Sure if you have it.... Send it right to me and I'm make sure everything is done correctly.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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