Californiaman Posted August 10, 2010 Share Posted August 10, 2010 You have to craft a killer solo for a song in the key of E Major. Which key do you use to solo in. I will post the correct answer later. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShredAstaire Posted August 10, 2010 Share Posted August 10, 2010 Whatever sounds good!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
olioli Posted August 10, 2010 Share Posted August 10, 2010 E minor, although not perfect it creates a bluesy/rock feel to the song. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kimbabig Posted August 10, 2010 Share Posted August 10, 2010 What are these keys of which you speak of? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silenced Fred Posted August 10, 2010 Share Posted August 10, 2010 You have to craft a killer solo for a song in the key of E Major.Which key do you use to solo in. I will post the correct answer later. I thought guitars had strings... I put C# minor, I always got em mixed up in theory though Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
duane v Posted August 10, 2010 Share Posted August 10, 2010 type of player i am I would open in C#Minor Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kimbabig Posted August 10, 2010 Share Posted August 10, 2010 Real solo's come form the heart not technical theory. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
duane v Posted August 10, 2010 Share Posted August 10, 2010 Real solo's come form the heart not technical theory. true but you have to know some theory to sing a solo through a chord progression. If you play the chords stated in the poll (E / B / C#m / A) in progression, it's in the key of E major anywhoo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dem00n Posted August 10, 2010 Share Posted August 10, 2010 Real solo's come form the heart not technical theory. ^ What this man said. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kimbabig Posted August 10, 2010 Share Posted August 10, 2010 true but you have to know some theory to sing a solo through a chord progression. If you play the chords stated in the poll (E / B / C#m / A) in progression' date=' it's in the key of E major anywhoo[/quote'] Can we agree to disagree, I guess it really depends on who's playing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silenced Fred Posted August 10, 2010 Share Posted August 10, 2010 ^ What this man said. But if you just stick in random notes, it'll sound like ***. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
duane v Posted August 10, 2010 Share Posted August 10, 2010 Can we agree to disagree' date=' I guess it really depends on who's playing.[/quote'] He did say craft a solo, but if you had to improvise a solo, and you only had one shot to do it. You had better know some theory Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dem00n Posted August 10, 2010 Share Posted August 10, 2010 But if you just stick in random notes' date=' it'll sound like ***. [/quote']Not most of the time, you have no idea how many guitar players out there right great solos without thorey and chord progression. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kimbabig Posted August 10, 2010 Share Posted August 10, 2010 But if you just stick in random notes' date=' it'll sound like ***. [/quote']No one said anything about random notes. I think people just get a bit too caught up in theory their playing sounds good but not original, I don't think that's a problem with anyone here, I just feel "to learn we must first forget" that's a good quote from a good friend of mine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silenced Fred Posted August 10, 2010 Share Posted August 10, 2010 Not most of the time' date=' you have no idea how many guitar players out there right great solos without thorey and chord progression.[/quote'] I know, but they know their way around the fretboard. They might not know every note, but they know what works well together. I do that, I don't script any solo, I just let it all flow Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
duane v Posted August 10, 2010 Share Posted August 10, 2010 Not most of the time' date=' you have no idea how many guitar players out there right great solos without thorey and chord progression.[/quote'] that's where I disagree.... It's just that they're so good they can hear the scale or the phrasing before playing it. Most of your great guitar players know chord progressions, and know how to maneuver through them, as though it was easy as breathing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Californiaman Posted August 10, 2010 Author Share Posted August 10, 2010 As far as the original question goes. Theory certainly applies. When I first read the question this morning on another sight, I went with theory right away. I got the question right. The correct answer... will be posted later. I like the way the discussion is going. Theory vs. what... chaos? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dem00n Posted August 10, 2010 Share Posted August 10, 2010 that's where I disagree.... It's just that they're so good they can hear the scale or the phrasing before playing it. Most of your great guitar players know chord progressions' date=' and know how to maneuver through them, as though it was easy as breathing.[/quote'] Why are you right! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShredAstaire Posted August 10, 2010 Share Posted August 10, 2010 LOL! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
duane v Posted August 10, 2010 Share Posted August 10, 2010 chaos? I think intuition would be a better term[biggrin] .... A good lead player leaves plenty of room for it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FirstMeasure Posted August 10, 2010 Share Posted August 10, 2010 Real solo's come form the heart not technical theory. The heart can't speak if it doesn't know the language. And C# would be the relative minor, for the OT. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShredAstaire Posted August 10, 2010 Share Posted August 10, 2010 The heart can't speak if it doesn't know the language. And C# would be the relative minor' date=' for the OT.[/quote'] Girls girls, you're both pretty. But seriously, i agree with both of you partly.... You don't have to know the specific scale you are playing in order to craft a good solo. You need to know which notes sound right... I'm not much of a soloist, but i wrote a solo a few weeks ago and i have no idea what scale i was using or what key i was in....i wrote it through trial and error and went with what sounded right to my ears. So yes, theory would definitely help, but i don't think its required. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kimbabig Posted August 10, 2010 Share Posted August 10, 2010 As far as the original question goes.Theory certainly applies. When I first read the question this morning on another sight' date=' I went with theory right away. I got the question right. The correct answer... will be posted later. I like the way the discussion is going. Theory vs. what... chaos? [/quote'] How could you get it "right" if all music opinionated on whomever is listening? The absence of theory is not the manifestation of chaos. Neither me nor DemOOn said anything about random notes. Just because we are not using "theory" does not make us any less of musicians. You think we really play random crap well You've got another thing coming, we do use "theory" in our music it is just not the same "theory" you use. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
duane v Posted August 10, 2010 Share Posted August 10, 2010 Girls girls' date=' you're both pretty. But seriously, i agree with both of you partly.... You don't know to know the specific scale you are playing in order to craft a good solo. You need to know which frets will sound good... I'm not much of a soloist, but i wrote a solo a few weeks ago and i have no idea what scale i was using or what key i was in....i wrote it through trial and error and went with what sounded right to my ears. So yes, theory would definitely help, but i don't think its required. [/quote'] In the studio where you have many chances to re-take a performance, certainly theory is something that can be looked at as a secondary discipline. But just imagine if you had a good understanding of theory and the ability to write. You could lay down four different solos through the same chord progression, and all would carry a central theme that would fit in its on unique way..... Theory definitely gives more opportunities to a player IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShredAstaire Posted August 10, 2010 Share Posted August 10, 2010 Well I would say if we're writing solos that fit the song, then theory is most certainly being used....the same theory too whether you know it or not. And Duane, I do not disagree at all with what you just said up there....theory can always help you be more creative or try different things... Remember that 14 week course at the Royal Conservatory of Music I was gonna sign up for? My wife signed me up today for my birthday....so yeah...maybe I will be a better soloist in a few months....it starts mid Sept.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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