turkeyT Posted July 24, 2008 Share Posted July 24, 2008 Hey turkey.......why is it so important for you to know how this will affect others? This thread was created to raise concerns about the volute.......if you don't have any' date=' bug off. Quit coming in here and telling everyone that there is no issue, nor should anyone be upset.......it quite frankly doesn't concern you. All these people are trying to get answers from Gibson.....not a load of crap from you![/quote'] Cool your jets, Jasper. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1meanmalibu Posted July 24, 2008 Share Posted July 24, 2008 Hello Mr. Gabrsek, I'm not sure how involved you want to get with this forum but I was wondering if you had a chance to see the new Alex Lifeson ES-355 and what your thoughts were about it, especially that darn volute and tremolo arm. Personally, I love the thing to death but reading any input that you may have would be a real treat. Do you have any thoughts on why the volute was placed where it was? I recently bought a book about David Gilmour's black strat, oddly enough called, 'The Black Strat', and thought how a book about Alex's ES-355 came to be would've been nice. Just a thought. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wondo Posted July 24, 2008 Share Posted July 24, 2008 If anyone gets a chance check out the thread for "Alex Lifeson 355 In Action." I quickly recorded me playing La Villa Strangiato on this guitar and posted it on YouTube. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crappy Posted July 24, 2008 Share Posted July 24, 2008 It was the exact opposite last night. 76 on The Trees for sure and AL during the encore. I may be wrong because it's really hard to pinpoint fine details through binos' date=' especially with active stage lighting, but it sure looked like no volute to me on the AL. I'll try to confirm it. [/quote'] If it had the pickguard then it's the 76 No pickguard is the copy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Midnight Blues Posted July 24, 2008 Share Posted July 24, 2008 The way to tell is by the Trussrod Cover. The original has Alex's name on it, the Prototype doesn't. AL 028 ================================================================================== AL 028 1972 Gibson Les Paul Black Beauty re-issue 1976 (maybe '74?) Gibson Les Paul Deluxe (I've had both of them for over 30 years now) 2001 Fender Stratocaster Washburn D10S-N Marshall MG50DFX (used to have a 100 watt Marshall SLP stack, with the 1960AX cabinets back in the '70s. Funny how your priorities change however as you get older). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
truthoffiction Posted July 24, 2008 Share Posted July 24, 2008 If it had the pickguard then it's the 76No pickguard is the copy The way to tell is by the Trussrod Cover. The original has Alex's name on it, the Prototype doesn't. Then I had it backwards. Oops! Y'know, I've been playing my AL for several hours over the last week and it really is a great instrument. Volute issue aside, there is one other major problem. It won't let me play anything other than Rush songs. You can get a decent Trower tone out of the Varitone, but you can't finish an entire song, just a few riffs, then it's back to By-Tor or Farewell to Kings. It was on a Natural Science kick last night. It think it may be possessed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Midnight Blues Posted July 25, 2008 Share Posted July 25, 2008 Not necessarily truthoffiction, I think he may mix it up? Also, when I've seen the Prototype, its had the Pickguard on it. Nice collection there by the way. Where do you keep it all!!!!? Regards, AL 028 AL 028 1972 Gibson Les Paul Black Beauty re-issue 1976 (maybe '74?) Gibson Les Paul Deluxe (I've had both of them for over 30 years now) 2001 Fender Stratocaster Washburn D10S-N Marshall MG50DFX (used to have a 100 watt Marshall SLP stack, with the 1960AX cabinets back in the '70s. Funny how your priorities change however as you get older). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crappy Posted July 25, 2008 Share Posted July 25, 2008 If you guys want to see something funny you can watch RUSH try their hand at the game Rock Band http://www.colbertnation.com/?p=1657 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
truthoffiction Posted July 25, 2008 Share Posted July 25, 2008 Crappy, that's amazing! The look on Alex's face is priceless! Thanks! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wondo Posted July 28, 2008 Share Posted July 28, 2008 Admin, In your personal opinion, do you think we will get any definitive answers from Gibson? At least some kind of statement one way or the other in order to put this thing to rest?? Thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Custom Admin Posted July 28, 2008 Share Posted July 28, 2008 my opinion hasn't changed since posting this last week: no, but to expand upon this a little bit... the prevailing response of everyone here and in Memphis that i have talked to about this over the last several weeks has been "we are building the guitar to a set of specs that Alex approved." My feeling is that, at this point, that's all the response i'm going to get. Sorry i wasn't able to get any further info for you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
enduroexpert Posted July 28, 2008 Share Posted July 28, 2008 my opinion hasn't changed since posting this last week: no' date=' but to expand upon this a little bit... the prevailing response of everyone here and in Memphis that i have talked to about this over the last several weeks has been "we are building the guitar to a set of specs that Alex approved." My feeling is that, at this point, that's all the response i'm going to get. Sorry i wasn't able to get any further info for you. [/i'] Sorry Admin, but thats rubbish........... You've done a great job trying to help us all out but why is it that a $4000 isn't perfect. Not one person as said theirs is perfect, this is Custom Shop, not mass production. Even Freddy who rebuilt the guitar you based this on says its wrong. I'm sure no one will send their guitar back for a retro fit neck or even a refund for that matter but just give everyone an honest answer because Gibson are really taking the p*!s with this one. There's a guy on the original thread "Tez" just received his in London and the thing doesn't even work and he's comment on the quality fit the bill.......... Your (Gibson) having a laugh............ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wondo Posted July 29, 2008 Share Posted July 29, 2008 my opinion hasn't changed since posting this last week: no' date=' but to expand upon this a little bit... the prevailing response of everyone here and in Memphis that i have talked to about this over the last several weeks has been "we are building the guitar to a set of specs that Alex approved." My feeling is that, at this point, that's all the response i'm going to get. Sorry i wasn't able to get any further info for you. [/i'] Well, that is not good enough. Gibson needs to make an official statement at the very least. I know some dealers that are not ordering any more of these (not that you care) but they are getting wind. The dealers don't want to be stuck with models that might not sell because of the bad build on these guitars. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Custom Admin Posted July 29, 2008 Share Posted July 29, 2008 if you want an answer other than the ones i've given, you need to pursue them through different avenues than this forum. here are some possible avenues: 1) your dealer 2) Gibson Customer Service 1-800-4gibson, or service@gibson.com 3) again, here is a link to a company directory. you can use this to go up the ladder: http://www.gibson.com/en%2Dus/Support/GibsonCorporateDirectory/ i'm sorry some of you are dissatisfied with the guitar, and with Gibson's response to your questions. Unfortunately, i have done as much as i can do on this issue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crappy Posted July 29, 2008 Share Posted July 29, 2008 I might stop by and take the Memphis facility tour next week. I'll going to be down there all week. I'll see if anybody will say anything. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VRob8 Posted July 29, 2008 Share Posted July 29, 2008 I might stop by and take the Memphis facility tour next week. I'll going to be down there all week. I'll see if anybody will say anything. I'll tell you what they'll say right now, Crappy: "we are building the guitar to a set of specs that Alex approved." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crappy Posted July 29, 2008 Share Posted July 29, 2008 I'll tell you what they'll say right now' date=' Crappy: "we are building the guitar to a set of specs that Alex approved." [/quote'] I'm just going to take the tour, something to do when I'm down there. Hey I'll ask and what ever they tell me so be it. If I was going down there to break their balls about it, I would bring the AL with me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wondo Posted July 29, 2008 Share Posted July 29, 2008 I'm just going to take the tour' date=' something to do when I'm down there. Hey I'll ask and what ever they tell me so be it. If I was going down there to break their balls about it, I would bring the AL with me.[/quote'] Hold the Big Al proudly high in hand..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Midnight Blues Posted July 30, 2008 Share Posted July 30, 2008 Information for all, AL 278 up on e-bay: http://cgi.ebay.com/NEW-GIBSON-ALEX-LIFESON-ES-355-SEMI-HOLLOW-BODY_W0QQitemZ150276169541QQihZ005QQcategoryZ38085QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem AL 028 ================================================================================ AL 028 1972 Gibson Les Paul Black Beauty re-issue 1976 (maybe '74?) Gibson Les Paul Deluxe (I've had both of them for over 30 years now) 2001 Fender Stratocaster Washburn D10S-N Marshall MG50DFX (used to have a 100 watt Marshall SLP stack, with the 1960AX cabinets back in the '70s. Funny how your priorities change however as you get older). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LerxstLee Posted August 23, 2008 Share Posted August 23, 2008 Well' date='Here's your proof: Elliot Easton's 74 or 75 ES 355 and Crappy's Lifeson. Just looking at it you can see the design of the Lifeson is not conducive to a nice comfortable neck. [img']http://i211.photobucket.com/albums/bb206/RareFormMusic/DSC00186comp.jpg[/img] This has to be the biggest screw up Gibson has ever done. And, it had to happen on the one guitar I always wished they'd make. That just sucks! Which is the right spot for the Volute ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PJLCC14 Posted August 25, 2008 Share Posted August 25, 2008 According to Gibson...................Both of them!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wondo Posted August 25, 2008 Share Posted August 25, 2008 According to Gibson...................Both of them!!!! You are correct sir. And, if Gibson decides to put a volute at the twelfth fret, that will be correct as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crappy Posted August 25, 2008 Share Posted August 25, 2008 I'm getting use to the volute, I want one at every fret:^o Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
enduroexpert Posted August 26, 2008 Share Posted August 26, 2008 I'd like just the one across the whole 22 frets...........I'm sure Alex would approve it.......!!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wondo Posted August 26, 2008 Share Posted August 26, 2008 I'd like just the one across the whole 22 frets...........I'm sure Alex would approve it.......!!!!! I think one across the whole 22 frets would feel like no volute at all. Nice option. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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