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I've got a '05 Epi Casino that I play through a Fender Hot Rod Deville 410. I been playing around with using the foot switch that came with the amp for the drive channels. Knowing that the Casino is full hollow body and doesn't work well with distortion, so I would expect some feedback, but I've been getting a lot. Is it the wrong amp to use with the Casino? Any thoughts would bre appreciated

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I wouldn't think your choice of amp is wrong. Lennon used a Fender Twin with his Casino for a lot of stuff but mostly clean channel. the Casino owners on this forum can probably give you a bit more advice. I play Epi Dots so have the luxury of a solid wooden block to reduce feedback.

 

Stewart B

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personally, i'd run it on the clean channel and make use of the amazing breakup of the p90s to get some fuzz. that way i can roll off some volume and get good clean tone, then roll up to get great p90 breakup. plus, those hot rod tubes will break up well too, for an overall organic sounding fuzz. the last thing you want out of a great guitar/amp combo like yours is compressed, scooped metal distortion. the absolute best thing about the casino is its ability to go from jazzy cleans to hard blues rock tone from pick attack alone.

 

the hot rod is wayyyyyy cool...don't mess it or those p90s up with a tube screamer!!

 

that's my $.02. i'm sure someone will disagree...but if i had your (awesome) amp, that's what i'd do with my casino.

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those are nice...also, feedback is par for the course in a casino, but most people can fix it simply by turning away. i play with my amp facing me from my left side...as i'm right handed, the f-holes are facing pretty well away from the speaker, and have over 6 feet of person between them and the amp. that way i can also hear whats going on properly. on stage, i set up the amp behind me and about 3-6 feet to the left for the same basic effect. i try to make sure that at no point the f-holes face the speaker.

 

also try rolling off your volumes [biggrin]

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With my casino, I use a Fender Super Champ XD. I use my tube screamer TS9 (but with the drive all the way down) this just compresses the sound and gives you the sound of natural tube breakup at much lower levels.

 

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Try working your volumes from the guitar.

A range of 7-8 for cleaner/normal range with a quick crank to 10 for your leads should give you the "crunch" you're looking for.

(Get used to lessening your attack after the lead till there's a spot in the tune to bring them back to the 7-8 setting.)

As has been said, you cannot turn to your amp without cutting down your volumes.

Also,look to get as much distance from your amp when playing.

 

I really like the sound from my HRDeluxe clean or on the 1st drive channel,

with either a Gretsch WF or Epi Joe Pass, both of them big hollows at big volumes.

 

It can be done with a little practice & a whole lotta respect.

 

BTW The JP has a GFSmean90 at the neck. You'll really appreciate the P90 out of a cranked Fender as long as those F holes never face those speakers![crying] [crying]

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Great advice from the others. I have a 96 Casino that I play through a Fender Champ 25 and know what you mean about feedback at volume. As others have said, face away from the amp and get some distance. One thing I do like to do is use feedback to my advantage though. Once you have learned how to "Control" the feedback, you can get some great sounds useing the feedback to your advantage while playing. I love turning a bit toward the amp on a solo note and letting it rip. The feedback is controlled by turning slowly away from the amp as the note distorts and feedsback. It is a great effect when used properly.

 

Embrace the HRD (and the feedback) just learn to control it...

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Great Amp...don't worry about that! I use a Hot Rod Deluxe, Blues Junior, and a Twin Reverb,

with my '66 Casino. No problem, if I'm "on stage" at a decent distance, from the amp. For

"close quarters," I play at lower volume, anyway...and it's not a big problem, but can feed back,

easier in that situaion. One thing that some players do, is stuff a rolled up sock, inside

(throught the rear pickup hole), to fit tightly between the top and back, of the guitar,

to keep them from resonating, out of synch, and causing that feed back. Other's will put a more

permanent thing in place, by using a balsa wood "brace" between the top and back

(in the same way the sock is used). That will not ad any (real) weight, to the guitar, and be in place

all the time. Other's (as mentioned) just turn away, from the amp, and/or use the volume/tone controls,

to control the feed back, as well as the tone(s). One of the best things about the Casino, is it's ability to

be very clean and articulate, at moderate volume, and then that wonderfully "nasty" growl, at higher volumes.

Just experiment, on what works best, for you. Do NOT, change amps, though...at least not for that reason.

That 4X10 Deville, should be a killer combo, with the Casino....once you get it dialed in!

 

Cheers,

CB

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Charlie Brown- thanks for the advice' date=' good to know I've got a good guitar/amp combo. Next step is adding a pair of Gibson P-90s![/quote']

 

If you haven't already, you may just want to try switching out the wiring harness (pots, switches and vintage braided wire) to Gibson Specs. You will notice a nice difference in the stock pickups which I actually think are pretty sweet with a proper wiring harness, pots and switches.

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If you haven't already' date=' you may just want to try switching out the wiring harness (pots, switches and vintage braided wire) to Gibson Specs. You will notice a nice difference in the stock pickups which I actually think are pretty sweet with a proper wiring harness, pots and switches. [/quote']

 

I agree...the stock Epi P-90's are really pretty "sweet!" I'd definitely change the harness/pots/switch, BEFORE investing in new pickups!

 

CB

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We have that same amp (tweed reissue model) and a couple of Epi semi hollow bodies, a Dot and another Dot with Dirty Fingers for pups.

 

So, feedback is a problem clean or dirty over volume levels of 3 to 4, if you're playing in close quarters.

 

If you're at the end of an 18' cable with your body between the amp and guitar, there's no issues.

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