timjtitus Posted September 28, 2010 Share Posted September 28, 2010 does this look like a real 1970s sg custom? the tuners, middle pick up and a few other things are not original. the finsh has been sanded and the ink serial number apparently went with it. any help is appreciated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Artie Owl Posted September 28, 2010 Share Posted September 28, 2010 Looks Lygit to me, with the two screw truss cover. Look on the back of the headstock, along the sides, are there thin strips of shaped wood glued onto it? If there is then typically it's the real deal because fakers apparently make the headstock out of one piece. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RichCI Posted September 28, 2010 Share Posted September 28, 2010 Hard to say for sure, but I don't see any of the obvious stuff normally associated with fakes. In addition to what you mentioned, the bridge looks like it's been replaced but it might just be some weird Gibson part from the 70's for all I know. In the end, I don't see any reason why someone would fake a Gibson that has had it's finish stripped off and several mods made to it; fakes are usually meant to look nice and unmolested. My gut tells me that it's most likely real. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
timjtitus Posted September 28, 2010 Author Share Posted September 28, 2010 i think it looks pretty cool, i'd change the pickup and all the hardware back to gold though Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andre S Posted September 28, 2010 Share Posted September 28, 2010 Hard to say for sure, but I don't see any of the obvious stuff normally associated with fakes. In addition to what you mentioned, the bridge looks like it's been replaced but it might just be some weird Gibson part from the 70's for all I know. In the end, I don't see any reason why someone would fake a Gibson that has had it's finish stripped off and several mods made to it; fakes are usually meant to look nice and unmolested. My gut tells me that it's most likely real. It might be a weird Gibson part for that era. I saw a 70's SG Standard with that same bridge. Norlin hardware perhaps? Plus the Alex Lifeson 335 had a similar bridge. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andre S Posted September 28, 2010 Share Posted September 28, 2010 Here is a bit of info about that type of bridge. http://www.mylespaul.com/forums/other-gibsons/107640-what-sg-bridge-called.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
timjtitus Posted September 28, 2010 Author Share Posted September 28, 2010 Here is a bit of info about that type of bridge. http://www.mylespaul.com/forums/other-gibsons/107640-what-sg-bridge-called.html wow thanks for finding that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fortcon Posted September 28, 2010 Share Posted September 28, 2010 Post a picture of the back of the headstock. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
timjtitus Posted September 28, 2010 Author Share Posted September 28, 2010 i was told that in the late 70s gibson didn't stamp the serial numbers. those are the only pics i have but i'll try to get one of the back of the headstock Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fortcon Posted September 28, 2010 Share Posted September 28, 2010 Sorry, I should've been more specific. Gibson's don't use one single piece as the headstock, it's laminated. So, if the back of the headstock is one piece of wood, unlike the picture I just added, it's not a legit Gibson. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Artie Owl Posted September 28, 2010 Share Posted September 28, 2010 Yeah, it's like I was saying earlier, look at the sides going down and you'll see the strips of wood. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
timjtitus Posted September 28, 2010 Author Share Posted September 28, 2010 Yeah, it's like I was saying earlier, look at the sides going down and you'll see the strips of wood. cool, it'll be a few hours before i can get a pic of the headstock. really appreciate the help everyone Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigKahune Posted September 28, 2010 Share Posted September 28, 2010 This is an ad from '73. What bothers me is the spacing of the pups - the collars aren't touching. That might be okay, but usually, they touch (or are really close) in the 3 pup model. < http://www.vintageguitars.org.uk/SGtimeline70s.php > Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Artie Owl Posted September 28, 2010 Share Posted September 28, 2010 The Distance between the bridge and the bridge pickup in the Gibson ad is further than the Bridge and pickup on the one in question, a lot further too, it seems. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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duane v Posted September 28, 2010 Share Posted September 28, 2010 cmon guys its real Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
duane v Posted September 28, 2010 Share Posted September 28, 2010 Sorry, I should've been more specific. Gibson's don't use one single piece as the headstock, it's laminated. So, if the back of the headstock is one piece of wood, unlike the picture I just added, it's not a legit Gibson. My 72 SG250 is a two piece neck with no volute... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
timjtitus Posted September 28, 2010 Author Share Posted September 28, 2010 i don't know. that pickup spacing thing is really throwing me off Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
duane v Posted September 28, 2010 Share Posted September 28, 2010 This should calm your nerves Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
timjtitus Posted September 28, 2010 Author Share Posted September 28, 2010 well look at that. i've been looking all day for one that looked similar. where'd u find that one? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Artie Owl Posted September 28, 2010 Share Posted September 28, 2010 Alright! Go original hunch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
duane v Posted September 28, 2010 Share Posted September 28, 2010 well look at that. i've been looking all day for one that looked similar. where'd u find that one? google my friend... google Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NeoConMan Posted September 28, 2010 Share Posted September 28, 2010 I'm with Duane on this one. Gibson made so many variations of the SG in the seventies you need a score card to keep up. Same thing Fender did with the Telecaster - some pretty bizarre stuff. Much of it is undocumented and simply anecdotal now. Looks like it's been modded, and they were never an expensive guitar to begin with. If the price is right, no harm done. I wouldn't spend big "vintage" money on it though. Under a grand - I could live with it. WAY under a grand and I'd be happy! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigKahune Posted September 29, 2010 Share Posted September 29, 2010 cmon guysits real Nobody said it wasn't real. <Remedial reading course needed> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
duane v Posted September 29, 2010 Share Posted September 29, 2010 Nobody said it wasn't real. <Remedial reading course needed> never accused otherwise Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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