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Hey guys. I just got an Epi Les Paul. It is a beauty, it looks great and it plays fine.

The serial number looks legit - 1997 (December), built in Korea in the Saein Plant.

The back of it is painted with reddish lacquer but you can see the wood grain trough it. When I was changing the pickups I saw the wood inside the control cavity and it is very light. The wood grain does not look mahogany either. Are there any models that were not mahogany. The maple cap is real though - it is easily seen when removing pickups.

So here it is (pics are taken with my phone so not the greatest)- it looks more yellow live:




What do you say about that?

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There are many species of tree that can be called Mahogany, while the Gibsons were all originally made from real Mahogany from south America, Guitars made of so called Mahogany in the far East are made from "Eastern Mahogany" which again could be one of several species of tree all having similar tonal characteristics to real Mahogany. some of the species of eastern mahogany can be a light colour.


I reckon this is the most likely explanation, But it doesn't rule out use of wood other than one the myriad of tree species that are described as "Mahogany" .



quotes from wiki---->

Agathis (also known as Commercial Grade Mahogany or Poor Man's Mahogany) is a type of pine that grows in East Asia. It is a plantation-wood used mainly for building cabinets. It is cheap and usually used in the construction of budget guitars. Its tone is similar to mahogany but more bland sounding with a less complex response.


Nato is another type of eastern mahogany though most current stock now comes from South America. It is also a commercial grade mahogany originally designed for cabinet building. Typically used as a mahogany substitute for budget guitars. It has a bright tone with pronounced midrange but lacks in sensitivity and punch compared to other varieties of mahogany. B.C. Rich used Nato for their Assassin range.


and that is partly why Epi's are a fraction of the cost of a Gibby

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http://www.ehow.com/about_5330156_types-mahogany-wood.html basic info: http://www.jemsite.com/jem/wood.htm and on the Gibson board: http://forum.gibson.com/index.php?/topic/4991-honduras-mahogany-or/ I had to purchase a vennier and communicated with the woodworker in OR... the denisity is what your after...and even in the Hard Mahogany group they have to test it to tell. Density = more sustain. Thats why an American made Gibson has more sustain-better wood-better electronics...not just labor cost. Its a better quality product by product used ..like beef is prime, USDA, choice etc.the mahogany is graded. A, AAA, AAA but the density is what your after:

but this topic is best covered by: http://www.mylespaul.com/forums/luthiers-corner/90778-mahogany-grades.html

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