dem00n Posted June 13, 2011 Share Posted June 13, 2011 Well dem00n, you are entitled to your opinion, of course, but... With respect: You are 16, that's not an issue in itself but clearly you have not been alive for long enough to have studied the subject to any great depth. This "some guy on the internet" is somewhat older than that, owns a very reputable web development and server application development company which operates on, and is well established and respected on the international stage. I have been developing software, including: Browser add ons for developers, Contributions to some of the worlds biggest open source projects(Joomla, OSC, Dolphin Community Builder etc), Custom database network applications, Symbian apps, Android apps, Custom ROMs and apps for many mobile devices, since before you were born! I was also building computers before you were born; Just(Back when it was more than a simple jigsaw puzzle). I have written custom Linux kernels for specialist hardware, such as 3 dimensional engine ECU mapping systems, touch screen information panels, ticket machines and more. I really don't mind if you take my opinion as informed or not but just one thing... You are repeating what you have been told (or at least what you believed you understood you were being told), and presenting it with some conviction. I am telling the good people here what I know and understand down to the tiniest detail and from my perspective of being the owner of a leader in the industry (in my country, if not Europe). The people reading this thread can now make their own minds up about the validity of what each of us is saying knowing a little more about our backgrounds, which I think is important. Perhaps you might reconsider "chossing the guys in real life", perhaps not, but at least I got all that of my chest and everyone else here is now in a better position to decide which one of us might be a more reliable source! Please take this post in the way that it was meant, I am afraid of coming across as aggressive or argumentative which I don't want to do, it's hard to flat out say "You are wrong and here's why" without being a bit rude! Ok, if you say so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tman5293 Posted June 13, 2011 Share Posted June 13, 2011 Well dem00n, you are entitled to your opinion, of course, but... With respect: You are 16, that's not an issue in itself but clearly you have not been alive for long enough to have studied the subject to any great depth. This "some guy on the internet" is somewhat older than that, owns a very reputable web development and server application development company which operates on, and is well established and respected on the international stage. I have been developing software, including: Browser add ons for developers, Contributions to some of the worlds biggest open source projects(Joomla, OSC, Dolphin Community Builder etc), Custom database network applications, Symbian apps, Android apps, Custom ROMs and apps for many mobile devices, since before you were born! I was also building computers before you were born; Just(Back when it was more than a simple jigsaw puzzle). I have written custom Linux kernels for specialist hardware, such as 3 dimensional engine ECU mapping systems, touch screen information panels, ticket machines and more. I really don't mind if you take my opinion as informed or not but just one thing... You are repeating what you have been told (or at least what you believed you understood you were being told), and presenting it with some conviction. I am telling the good people here what I know and understand down to the tiniest detail and from my perspective of being the owner of a leader in the industry (in my country, if not Europe). The people reading this thread can now make their own minds up about the validity of what each of us is saying knowing a little more about our backgrounds, which I think is important. Perhaps you might reconsider "chossing the guys in real life", perhaps not, but at least I got all that of my chest and everyone else here is now in a better position to decide which one of us might be a more reliable source! Please take this post in the way that it was meant, I am afraid of coming across as aggressive or argumentative which I don't want to do, it's hard to flat out say "You are wrong and here's why" without being a bit rude! And there you have it! Well posted Farns! Though I am not much older than dem00n (17), I know all about what you're talking about as I have spent many hours working on and studying web browser design along with other software design, many programming/web scripting languages, and computer hardware/assembly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dem00n Posted June 13, 2011 Share Posted June 13, 2011 Now your bringing age to this? Morons. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tman5293 Posted June 13, 2011 Share Posted June 13, 2011 Now your bringing age to this? Hey kid respect your elders! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Farnsbarns Wunterslausche Posted June 13, 2011 Share Posted June 13, 2011 Now your bringing age to this? I used to like you! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
retrosurfer1959 Posted June 13, 2011 Share Posted June 13, 2011 Safari or my Ipad Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
djroge1 Posted June 13, 2011 Share Posted June 13, 2011 Haha, your serious aren't you? You know, i always asked people which one is better, ive asked nerds, hobbyists, run of the mill people and then i ask the professionals. Those who spend all day works on computers and making computers, and whats the most common answer i get from them? All of the big names are really the same, some have other little things that are good but when it comes to speed just pick which ever one. I even asked a professor who teaches mechanical engineering once and he told me that even though one browser might be the most fast one it could be slowing down other programs. You can get very technical, but just like the Mac VS PC thing, its dated, its stupid and its pointless to talk about. After all of time of stupid arguments ive had, its the all the same. I have made peace with computers, only something few humans will ever do... I guess it's sort of like arguing about which guitar is better - Gibson, Fender, PRS, Harmony, Sears, or Gretch? I mean one obviously is not better than another since they all have the capability of playing the same song. It doesn't matter if you have a Sears Global guitar or a Gibson R9 - a guitar is a guitar after all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silenced Fred Posted June 13, 2011 Share Posted June 13, 2011 It's the internet, everyones hates everyone and has a 12 inch sub. Nah, some of us can only afford the 6 inch sub from Subway... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DAS44 Posted June 13, 2011 Share Posted June 13, 2011 It's the internet, everyones hates everyone I don't hate anyone on the forums (nor anywhere else to be honest, no reason to) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Bill Posted June 14, 2011 Share Posted June 14, 2011 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
milod Posted June 14, 2011 Share Posted June 14, 2011 Farns... I quit building my own after the 386 and I saw things were getting too obviously over my head. Besides it had become cheaper to buy software and easier to buy storebought systems than to build and attempt to write much beyond a simple payroll deduction program which I could have done as easily with a spreadsheet or database instead of Basic. But... On my 8088 and 286 machines, I always bought 640 k of ram - I don't recall if I went up to a meg with the 286 or 386 because I could set up a high memory ram disk. I loved ram disks. In the real old days with my first 640k "PC" with just two floppies, I could run WordStar and DbaseII from the ram disk so nicely fast. I hadda mess a bit with fonts and drivers when I used a white-write 300 dpi printer stedda the HP for my first tech manual done with Win 101 and "Windows Write." Sheesh. And then there was messing to get my first "huge" 10 meg HD working. Now I almost laugh at myself. Actually my experience makes me that much more respectful toward you guys who are at it on a daily basis. It's as much a different game today as a virtual touchscreen keyboard is to the old all-upper-case mechanical keyboard on a parallel wire teletypes I used to keep in decent repair... and I think I'm smart enough to know it. <grin> So all kidding aside, I think my preference of Firefox is because it's one of the few things I can still tinker with. I can tell on occasion it's not being terribly efficient. m Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TommyK Posted June 22, 2011 Share Posted June 22, 2011 Firefox. Less buggy, less exposure to viruses. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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